Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 And there are much better choices than Aspartame for everyone INCLUDING Diabetics! I am/was insuling resistant as is my dad and my grandmother was diabetic so i do know first hand. Aspartame is bad for everyone and when you get right down to it, those of us who are already fighting a compromised immune system or other disfunction really dont need to put stuff in our bodies that will further tear it down. You can try Stevia or Agave nectar Sylvia herbal remedies , SpareRibOfAz@a... wrote: > In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > ann_reiling writes: > As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic > friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can > eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, > you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right > making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. > Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking > about a friend of John's. > > Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad > Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! > > God Bless, > Jamie in Az Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I agree there are OTHER choices than Aspartame; if you can afford and find them. Since you are familiar with diabetes, I will assume you know of a well-controlled diabetic, and hence know that each diabetic's diabetes is unique and no blanket treatment works for any diabetic without regard to their idiosyncrasies. I did not I advocate stuffing anything into any body, compromised or not. I may have been misunderstood. I have tried many sweeteners, including your suggestions and Aspartame. What I can use with abandon, another diabetic may encounter extreme complications with. My sister and I are both diabetics, same gene pool, same Type; logic would suggest we could use the same basic treatment. It is not so. My point, while directed at diabetes, is no one has the wisdom, knowledge, experience or omniscience to be able to make recommendations that affect another's life and death and expect to be taken as omniscient. Sylvia <h10feet wrote: And there are much better choices than Aspartame for everyone INCLUDING Diabetics!I am/was insuling resistant as is my dad and my grandmother was diabetic so i do know first hand.Aspartame is bad for everyone and when you get right down to it, those of us who are already fighting a compromised immune system or other disfunction really dont need to put stuff in our bodies that will further tear it down.You can try Stevia or Agave nectarSylviaherbal remedies , SpareRibOfAz@a... wrote:> In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > ann_reiling writes:> As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic > friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can > eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, > you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right > making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. > Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking > about a friend of John's.> > Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad > Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! > > God Bless,> Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington ...they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, and they shall walk, and not faint. Isa. 40:31 Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 True. But we can offer advice/coulsel/etc. Else there is no use for this very list. JohnAnn <ann_reiling wrote: My point, while directed at diabetes, is no one has the wisdom, knowledge, experience or omniscience to be able to make recommendations that affect another's life and death and expect to be taken as omniscient. Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Huh!!! Aspartame is NOT a "choice" when it comes to natural healing. It is on the same order as rat poison!!! I am very familiar with Diabetes (choose your type), and it is not that difficult to handle regardless of kind. As Ole Doc Christopher was fond of saying, "There are NO incurable diseases!!!" And as I am fond of adding, "However, there are incurable people!!!" In my opinion, walking around and saying "I'm a diabetic", is like walking around and saying, "I have a headache (while beating your head into a brick wall). The choice, as you put it, is whether or not one is going to stop doing those things that are destructive to the body, and start doing those things that will bring about health. I suppose one could choose to play Russian Roulette, but that too has nothing to do with natural healing. Diabetes is NOT a genetic disorder. In families that have high incidents of Diabetes, you'll find they all eat the same lousy food. They might think they're eating healthy, but they most emphatically are not. I'm not trying to pick on you Ann, and I don't think myself or anyone else on the list is claiming to be omniscient, but there are certain "truths" that do apply to us all when it comes to healing naturally. This is what you are experiencing here. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Ann herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:30 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME - Ann I agree there are OTHER choices than Aspartame; if you can afford and find them. Since you are familiar with diabetes, I will assume you know of a well-controlled diabetic, and hence know that each diabetic's diabetes is unique and no blanket treatment works for any diabetic without regard to their idiosyncrasies. I did not I advocate stuffing anything into any body, compromised or not. I may have been misunderstood. I have tried many sweeteners, including your suggestions and Aspartame. What I can use with abandon, another diabetic may encounter extreme complications with. My sister and I are both diabetics, same gene pool, same Type; logic would suggest we could use the same basic treatment. It is not so. My point, while directed at diabetes, is no one has the wisdom, knowledge, experience or omniscience to be able to make recommendations that affect another's life and death and expect to be taken as omniscient. Sylvia <h10feet wrote: And there are much better choices than Aspartame for everyone INCLUDING Diabetics!I am/was insuling resistant as is my dad and my grandmother was diabetic so i do know first hand.Aspartame is bad for everyone and when you get right down to it, those of us who are already fighting a compromised immune system or other disfunction really dont need to put stuff in our bodies that will further tear it down.You can try Stevia or Agave nectarSylviaherbal remedies , SpareRibOfAz@a... wrote:> In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > ann_reiling writes:> As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic > friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can > eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, > you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right > making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. > Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking > about a friend of John's.> > Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad > Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! > > God Bless,> Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington ...they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, and they shall walk, and not faint. Isa. 40:31 Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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