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here is my inquirary and hoping for help

 

This is for those who has herpes either oral or genital?

(sorry if this is personal) but how many out breaks do you have in a

single yr and what do you do for it to stay clean if you don't have the

products (like naturally or home remedy)

 

the reason why i ask that is because i am in the last few yrs getting

alot of outbreaks and really can't afford any products and otcs the dr

prescribes for the inching and just the out breaks

 

and this yr i am getting coldsores all over my mouth usaully i get a

few a yr but not all at once.....

 

can you help

 

thanks ahead of time

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Namaste, Barbara,

 

Outbreaks are caused by stress, too much friction, sexual contact during

outbreak or

close to an outbreak. There is a prescription out there, but I don't know

anything about it

and prefer holistic treatments. Outbreaks will become less and less and only

erupt under

great stress.

 

Ice therapy (of course, wrapped in 100% sterile cotton) helps. Keep clean with

an

antiseptic, antipuretic such as Tea Tree Oil.

 

Use Bach's Stress Formula. Vitmains C, E, and B12 are indicated. Also, Kyolic

Garlic tabs

and Siberian Ginseng strengthen your immune system.

 

Improve the quality of your immune system by removing all toxins from your diet.

Try to

eat organically; stay away from caffiene; drink a lot of Xango and water to

flush your

system. Do a detox (I use Sonne's organic products-#7 Detox liquid and #9

Powdered

Fiber. You can buy directly from them and not have to pay the mark-up from the

health

food store).

 

Approach this from the total person outlook from all angles: emotions affect

and will

lower our quality of health. If you have depression or SAD, seek light therapy,

color

therapy, water therapy and aromatherpy.

 

Reiki, Magnified Healing and QiGong treatments would assist or totally heal.

 

Sleep is also a very important ingredient in your healing process. If you can't

sleep

properly, your body can't heal and renew itself...get at least 7 hours a night.

If you have

trouble sleeping, pure Melatonin is excellent. Meditation also helps you to get

in the right

frame of mind for relaxation. I listen to Tibetian Medication CD's.

 

May you have a complete and total healing.

 

Blessings!

 

 

, " barbara swingle " <bobbiswingle

wrote:

>

> here is my inquirary and hoping for help

>

> This is for those who has herpes either oral or genital?

> (sorry if this is personal) but how many out breaks do you have in a

> single yr and what do you do for it to stay clean if you don't have the

> products (like naturally or home remedy)

>

> the reason why i ask that is because i am in the last few yrs getting

> alot of outbreaks and really can't afford any products and otcs the dr

> prescribes for the inching and just the out breaks

>

> and this yr i am getting coldsores all over my mouth usaully i get a

> few a yr but not all at once.....

>

> can you help

>

> thanks ahead of time

>

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The herb Melissa is also very good for this. You can get it in creams,

or just bruise the leaves and apply topically.

Tymothy

 

" phoenixrising138 " <phoenixrising138 wrote:

>

> Namaste, Barbara,

>

> Outbreaks are caused by stress, too much friction, sexual contact

during outbreak or

> close to an outbreak. There is a prescription out there, but I

don't know anything about it

> and prefer holistic treatments. Outbreaks will become less and less

and only erupt under

> great stress.

>

> Ice therapy (of course, wrapped in 100% sterile cotton) helps. Keep

clean with an

> antiseptic, antipuretic such as Tea Tree Oil.

>

> Use Bach's Stress Formula. Vitmains C, E, and B12 are indicated.

Also, Kyolic Garlic tabs

> and Siberian Ginseng strengthen your immune system.

>

> Improve the quality of your immune system by removing all toxins

from your diet. Try to

> eat organically; stay away from caffiene; drink a lot of Xango and

water to flush your

> system. Do a detox (I use Sonne's organic products-#7 Detox liquid

and #9 Powdered

> Fiber. You can buy directly from them and not have to pay the

mark-up from the health

> food store).

>

> Approach this from the total person outlook from all angles:

emotions affect and will

> lower our quality of health. If you have depression or SAD, seek

light therapy, color

> therapy, water therapy and aromatherpy.

>

> Reiki, Magnified Healing and QiGong treatments would assist or

totally heal.

>

> Sleep is also a very important ingredient in your healing process.

If you can't sleep

> properly, your body can't heal and renew itself...get at least 7

hours a night. If you have

> trouble sleeping, pure Melatonin is excellent. Meditation also

helps you to get in the right

> frame of mind for relaxation. I listen to Tibetian Medication CD's.

>

> May you have a complete and total healing.

>

> Blessings!

>

>

> , " barbara swingle "

<bobbiswingle@>

> wrote:

> >

> > here is my inquirary and hoping for help

> >

> > This is for those who has herpes either oral or genital?

> > (sorry if this is personal) but how many out breaks do you have in a

> > single yr and what do you do for it to stay clean if you don't

have the

> > products (like naturally or home remedy)

> >

> > the reason why i ask that is because i am in the last few yrs getting

> > alot of outbreaks and really can't afford any products and otcs

the dr

> > prescribes for the inching and just the out breaks

> >

> > and this yr i am getting coldsores all over my mouth usaully i get a

> > few a yr but not all at once.....

> >

> > can you help

> >

> > thanks ahead of time

> >

>

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I have both oral and genital, I have yet to do the natueral remedies but i am

looking into it more and more. I have an average of 1 genital a year and yes it

is usually due to a extreme stressful situation. As far as Oral over the last

month I am haveing issue because the guy I see has a beard and whiskers seem to

be irritateing it alot worse, it is in just one spot though the right hand

corner of my mouth. I have been useing this over the counter herpeies lip cream

and I will usually use a jalapino which seems to make it go away fast, but a far

as the whiskers causeing the irritation I am not sure what to do with it. He is

willing to shave it off, but I like the look of it on him.

 

 

cynthia

 

 

 

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Hi Al,

 

According to Hulda Clark (author of " The Cure for All Diseases " ), the

following things can trigger an outbreak:

1-aflatoxin-infested or moldy food

2-sudden cold and heat

3-trauma from chaffing and friction

4-lowered immunity in combination with other factors (this is a given)

5-constant exposure to toxic substances (includes mercury almagam tooth

fillings, which keeps immunity lowered)

6-trigger foods: peanuts, chocolate, coffee, citrus etc.

 

In Hulda's book, to prevent an outbreak, avoid or minimize the above trigger

factors: use natural soaps, lotions, and cleansers to rid your body of nickel,

chromate, titanium, zirconium, aluminum, and benzalkonium; do your laundry with

borax and washing soda to rule out detergent as a trigger factor. As soon as you

feel the tingling sensation of an impending outbreak, take one capsule of

cayenne and 8 lysine tablets (of 500 mg each). The cayenne slows down the

movement of the virus along the nerve root.

 

She also recommends making a lysine paste:

Crush a lysine tablet, add a pinch of vitamin C powder and a pinch of zinc

oxide. Wet a bit of it with water to make a paste. Apply to lesions.

 

Hope this helps.

 

By the way, how is that cool book coming along (the one you mentioned to Harry

and me last year)? I'm actually looking forward to reading it. :)

 

Best,Mei

 

 

 

 

 

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , Mei Li <daomedicine wrote:

>

> Oh, I forgot to mention that a Chinese doctor I used to work for

used yu xing cao oil topically and internally for herpes simplex.

>  Mei

 

Another treatment that is quite popular for herpes outbreaks (genital,

zoster, and oral) is a formula called " Long Dan Xie Gan Tang " (aka

" Gentiana Combination " or " Gentiana Clear/Drain The Liver Decoction " ).

Those who have these herpes outbreaks can often feel it coming on a

few hours before the blisters actually erupt.

 

When Long Dan Xie Gan Tang is taken at that stage, the formula can

dramatically limit the intensity and length of time in which the

lesions are evident. It isn't quite as effective taken after the fact,

but probably still helps. I've heard of patients reporting an outbreak

coming in, they slam down the Long Dan Xie Gan Tang and the entire

outbreak is averted.

 

Strictly speaking, this formula is for damp-heat in the

Liver/Gallbladder. Because herpes lesions present with a red base,

they are assumed to be hot in nature. Because they are fluid filled

vesicles, they are considered to be damp. And because they tend to

arise somewhere along the Liver channel, they're considered " damp heat

in the Liver " which includes the Liver channel. Because the Liver is

sensitive to stress, and herpes lesions are often aggravated or

induced by emotional stress, this too supports the (Chinese) Liver

involvement. The Liver channel passes through the " external genitalia "

which explains the genital location of the herpes. The Liver channel

also spreads out over the ribs which is how Herpes Zoster presents.

Finally, the Liver channel circles the lips, hence the oral form of

herpes or " cold sores " .

 

Biomedicine might suggest that this formula is antiviral, which it is.

 

If the outbreaks are more aggravated by fatigue, consider Zhi Bai Di

Huang Wan. This is for a slightly different presentation. I myself

have not run into this situation myself, but it comes from a trusted

Chinese medicine dermatologist from the famous " Gu " family of Shanghai.

 

The premise on the use of Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan: This formula is used

for deficiency heat. So, it nourishes the yin of the body and clears

away the heat that arises from that lack of body fluids. (Lack of body

fluids is rarely associated with not drinking enough water, but rather

the body's ability to absorb it.)

 

Sorry its been so long since I could respond in detail to this thread,

but hey, once you got herpes, you got it for good. No hurry. :) On the

upside, as we get older, less lesions arise. At least with the genital

kind.

 

-al.

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Try blood electrification, using Bob Beck protocals.

 

 

 

-

" Al Stone " <al

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Monday, February 23, 2009 8:51 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: Herpes

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , Mei Li <daomedicine wrote:

>

> Oh, I forgot to mention that a Chinese doctor I used to work for

used yu xing cao oil topically and internally for herpes simplex.

> Mei

 

Another treatment that is quite popular for herpes outbreaks (genital,

zoster, and oral) is a formula called " Long Dan Xie Gan Tang " (aka

" Gentiana Combination " or " Gentiana Clear/Drain The Liver Decoction " ).

Those who have these herpes outbreaks can often feel it coming on a

few hours before the blisters actually erupt.

 

When Long Dan Xie Gan Tang is taken at that stage, the formula can

dramatically limit the intensity and length of time in which the

lesions are evident. It isn't quite as effective taken after the fact,

but probably still helps. I've heard of patients reporting an outbreak

coming in, they slam down the Long Dan Xie Gan Tang and the entire

outbreak is averted.

 

Strictly speaking, this formula is for damp-heat in the

Liver/Gallbladder. Because herpes lesions present with a red base,

they are assumed to be hot in nature. Because they are fluid filled

vesicles, they are considered to be damp. And because they tend to

arise somewhere along the Liver channel, they're considered " damp heat

in the Liver " which includes the Liver channel. Because the Liver is

sensitive to stress, and herpes lesions are often aggravated or

induced by emotional stress, this too supports the (Chinese) Liver

involvement. The Liver channel passes through the " external genitalia "

which explains the genital location of the herpes. The Liver channel

also spreads out over the ribs which is how Herpes Zoster presents.

Finally, the Liver channel circles the lips, hence the oral form of

herpes or " cold sores " .

 

Biomedicine might suggest that this formula is antiviral, which it is.

 

If the outbreaks are more aggravated by fatigue, consider Zhi Bai Di

Huang Wan. This is for a slightly different presentation. I myself

have not run into this situation myself, but it comes from a trusted

Chinese medicine dermatologist from the famous " Gu " family of Shanghai.

 

The premise on the use of Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan: This formula is used

for deficiency heat. So, it nourishes the yin of the body and clears

away the heat that arises from that lack of body fluids. (Lack of body

fluids is rarely associated with not drinking enough water, but rather

the body's ability to absorb it.)

 

Sorry its been so long since I could respond in detail to this thread,

but hey, once you got herpes, you got it for good. No hurry. :) On the

upside, as we get older, less lesions arise. At least with the genital

kind.

 

-al.

 

 

 

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