Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear Brothers & Sisters..., Vanakam. Greetings. My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 breast cancer. The Pathological Diagnosis dated 28.11.2007 reads as follow: " Excised right breast lump : Infiltrating ductal carcinoma. Not otherwise specified, Bloom and Richardson grade 3 (3,3,2) with inferior surgical margin involvement. " Upon a follow up consultation on 31.12.2007, the doctor decided for a complete breast removal surgery as soon as possible. But since the swelling is large in her breast, the doctor planned to reduce the swellings prior to the intended surgery by giving her two rounds of chemotheraphy of which the first was done on 04.01.2008 the next is on 25.01.2008. My relative is now extremely weakened by the chemotheraphy. Although she is taking Pharmaton multivitamins, spirulina and other nutritious foods, she could hardly walk and find it hard to do even the simple and light housework. She had lost her appetite to take food and have been constantly vomitting with occassional purging. Her hair had began to fall off. She could'nt stand the torturous effect of the chemotheraphy and had decided not to go for the next chemotheraphy. She is willing to let nature take it's course and end her life than to go through all these sufferings. I feel so symphatetic for her. I tried to give her courage and motivate her, but it is not giving any positive results. I love my relative so much and I desperately want to do something good and effective to end her cancer problem. So, can any of you please help my relative in this...? Is there any effective alternative treatment or cure to this breast cancer? Will any ayurvedic treatment give her any cure? Can she be cured by just a breast removal without any chemotheraphy or radiotheraphy? Dear Brothers & Sisters, please give me your precious advice. Thank you so much. God Bless You. Devi zetty_vj ********************************************************************* ********************************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Chemotherapy plus Reiki helps such cases. There is no way out. bala - zetty_vj <zetty_vj Friday, January 11, 2008 7:43 am BREAST CANCER....PLEASE HELP...!!! > > > > Dear Brothers & Sisters..., > > Vanakam. Greetings. > > My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 > breast > cancer. > > The Pathological Diagnosis dated 28.11.2007 reads as follow: > > " Excised right breast lump : Infiltrating ductal carcinoma. Not > otherwise specified, Bloom and Richardson grade 3 (3,3,2) with > inferior surgical margin involvement. " > > Upon a follow up consultation on 31.12.2007, the doctor decided > for > a complete breast removal surgery as soon as possible. But since > the > swelling is large in her breast, the doctor planned to reduce the > swellings prior to the intended surgery by giving her two rounds > of > chemotheraphy of which the first was done on 04.01.2008 the next > is > on 25.01.2008. > > My relative is now extremely weakened by the chemotheraphy. > Although > she is taking Pharmaton multivitamins, spirulina and other > nutritious foods, she could hardly walk and find it hard to do > even > the simple and light housework. She had lost her appetite to take > food and have been constantly vomitting with occassional purging. > Her hair had began to fall off. She could'nt stand the torturous > effect of the chemotheraphy and had decided not to go for the next > chemotheraphy. She is willing to let nature take it's course and > end > her life than to go through all these sufferings. > > I feel so symphatetic for her. I tried to give her courage and > motivate her, but it is not giving any positive results. > > I love my relative so much and I desperately want to do something > good and effective to end her cancer problem. So, can any of you > please help my relative in this...? > > Is there any effective alternative treatment or cure to this > breast > cancer? > > Will any ayurvedic treatment give her any cure? > > Can she be cured by just a breast removal without any > chemotheraphy > or radiotheraphy? > > Dear Brothers & Sisters, please give me your precious advice. > > Thank you so much. > > God Bless You. > > Devi > zetty_vj > > ********************************************************************* > ********************************************************************* > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Cancer's Wake Up Call By Mauris L. Emeka " Your food shall be your remedies, and your remedies shall be your food. " Hippocrates If someone has cancer (no matter where it manifests in the body) it is an indication that three things, all relating to the body's metabolism, need to be corrected at the earliest possible date: ** First, the body's chemistry needs to be made less acidic and more alkaline. ** Secondly, cancer is a way of telling us that our body lacks certain protein digesting enzymes. It is an urgent call to stop eating for an extended period of time animal protein (especially beef, pork, chicken, turkey, lamb, etc.) as well as refined sugar (including honey), and refined grains. Cancer cells thrive on simple sugars and simple carbohydrates. Think of this disease as a compelling invitation to eat more fresh foods, raw fruits and vegetables, sprouts, complex carbohydrates, and particularly deep green leafy vegetables all of which introduce vitally important enzymes and normalize then body chemistry. A renowned embryologist, Dr. John Beard, discovered in the late 1800s that cancer is allowed to manifest when the body is deficient in certain protein digesting enzymes, especially the enzymes called trypsin and chymotrypsin. ** Thirdly, cancer calls on us to address a deficiency of oxygen in and around our body cells. Dr. OttoWarburg won the Nobel Prize in medicine in the early 1930s for discovering that healthy cells are unable to thrive and generate energy when there is a scarcity of oxygen at the cellular level. He found that whenever our cells are oxygen-starved, this causes them to become more acidic and generate energy through a process called fermentation; in doing so, this creates lactic acid, thus making the body more acidic (hence, more cancer prone) and less alkaline. Healthy cells breathe oxygen. Unlike cancerous cells, healthy cells do not generate energy through fermentation. We, therefore, need to find ways to expose our cells to a lot more oxygen. In addition to diet, it is important to spend time outdoors, get the benefit of the sunshine's vitamin D, and sleep by a window with the window cracked so as to bring in more oxygen. The good news: All three of the points just mentioned can be successfully addressed not with drugs like chemotherapy and radiation, but with diet, exercise, and stress reducing measures. Raw fruits and vegetables make the body less acidic and more alkaline. Eating animal protein like meat, chicken, dairy makes the body heavily acidic, and it further depletes the body's already scarce supply of important protein-digesting enzymes. Someone with cancer will almost always lack protein digesting enzymes. On the otherhand, fresh fruits and vegetables (especially uncooked) introduce much needed enzymes into the body. In this regard, some fruits and vegetable are more important than others for someone with cancer. I refer particularly to the fruits papaya, pineapple, mangos, wild berries like black berries, raspberries, blue berries; and deep green leafy vegetables like collard greens, kale, turnip greens, mustard greens. In addition to their live enzymes, the fresh deep green vegetables are loaded with chlorophyll which essentially enhances the body's oxygen carrying capacity thus exposing the cells to more oxygen and making them less acidic and more alkaline (i.e. healthy). As we do these things, we're also strengthening the immune system, which is a most important consideration when facing the challenge of cancer. Strengthen the Immune System, Be Determined to Pursue Diet If someone sincerely wants to reverse cancer (as opposed to merely eliminating the malignant tumor symptom) they need to " bite the bullet " and commit uncompromisingly to diet. To be sure, it may require a lot of discipline, but the reward is that it can bring about a biological terrain where cancer simply CANNOT survive. Note, also, that the more the cancer is advanced, the more aggressive one has to be with diet and exercise (because exercise also helps oxygenate the cells). For example, drink 3 to 5 ounces of fresh squeezed deep green leafy vegetable juice every 3 hours for one to two months; eat a papaya and a half of pineapple daily to introduce vital protein digesting enzymes that dissolve the protein coating from around the cancer cells so the immune system can finally " see " the cancer cells and target them for destruction. Maintain a Healthy Sense of Self Obviously, cancer is a serious health condition; but cancer is not your life, it is not the essence of who you are. So let us not allow cancer to define who we are. Our sense of self should be that we are spirit, made in God's likeness and image. We must not allow our minds to attach to the notion that " I have cancer " or that " I am a cancer patient " . You are a child of God, even though you may be challenged by a condition called cancer. And truly you can meet that challenge by aggressively pursuing a diet of mainly live plant-based foods and by living a lifestyle that makes the body less acidic, and more enzyme and oxygen rich. In such an environment, cancer is unable to thrive in the body. Moreover, it is not about " battling " or " fighting " cancer. When you fight something you first have to engage it, and that automatically gives it a degree of power. We do not want to empower cancer in anyway. In Summary If you're looking for an answer to cancer, look no further. Your body already has the answer. You simply have to unlock the healing power that resides in your body; and to do that you have to place less emphasis on treating the symptom of cancer and focus more on nourishing the body in a way that shuts down the underlying cancerous process. To that end, it is very important to: 1.) follow a diet and exercise routine that makes the body less acidic and more alkaline (because cancer cells can only thrive where the body chemistry is highly acidic); 2.) eat foods that introduce protein digesting enzymes into your body (because these enzymes help the immune system identify and destroy cancer cells); 3.) eat lots of uncooked deep green leafy vegetables, they make the body chemistry less acidic and more alkaline and they also increase the body's oxygen-carrying capacity (and cancer cells CANNOT live in an oxygen-rich environment); 4.) last but not least, we must be ever vigilant to do things that strengthen the immune system, which is arguably the most powerful cancer curing machine that the body has. Since cancer (any cancer) is basically a metabolic illness, what we have to do is to change our body's chemistry by creating a more healthy biological terrain so that cancer cannot thrive there. Truly, it is within our power to make that change, provided we first believe that it can happen. " And God said, behold I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth , and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. " Genesis 1:29 ------------- end of article --------- and I would also add enzymes, enzymes, and more enzymes. The best are plant-based enzymes http://tinyurl.com/ey8l that are micro-blended with a mineral-rich food (enzymes do not work without mnerals). Take 5 with each meal, and 5 between meals. Saturate your body with enzymes. Cancer is proceeded by pancreatic breakdown due to enzyme depletion. Also add a full spectrum probiotic - http://tinyurl.com/6gzqa Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 > Devi wrote: > > > > > Dear Brothers & Sisters..., > > Vanakam. Greetings. > > My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 breast > cancer. > Hi Devi, EFT may be useful for helping with the emotional and physical symptoms. Most cancers involve estrogen dominance. Vitamin B6 helps the liver to break down estrogen. Lack of enough B6 can cause estrogen dominance. Dietary considerations: Essiac tea - Flor Essence brand would be preferred, as it has all 8 herbs recommended orginally by Rene Caisse. Research history of Rene Caisse, absolutely fascinating. Apricot kernels - 7 a day for 90 days may be a good nutritional aid. This is probably the best dietary source of B17 - laetrile. Research and read more about laetrile and Dr. Ernst T. Krebs' research. Maintenance with 3 apricot kernels a day may be a good way for one who is healthy to stay healthy. B vitamins are most bioavailable in meats. Sugars and grains can be detrimental to one's health. Water is a healer, rule of thumb a quart per 50 pounds of body weight plus a quart every day, two if you are ill. If you're on a low salt diet, consider adding unrefined sea salt to your diet as you increase water intake. Use EFT to help quell the emotions which accompany cancer and all terminal illnesses. Help her find all the wonderful reasons why she wants to live. Reinforce them with EFT. Devi, I trust this information will be helpful for you. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat P.S. SAVE time and SUPERcharge EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) and SUPERcharge Switchwords with this EF (Emotional Freedom) vial http://www.efvial.ehdef.com/ -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Ask her to talk to the doctor about ablation. That's is the killing of cancer cells with specific needle and radio frequency's which is infinitely a more localized effect with out the systemic poisoning. If your doctor doesn't want to do it seek out one that does,. it is very common and normal that when cancers are surgically removed it actually spurs the cancer to metastasize. Also alkalize your body and look at your eating habits. Cancer is the result of a bad body condition. medusa - " zetty_vj " <zetty_vj Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:10 AM BREAST CANCER....PLEASE HELP...!!! > > > > Dear Brothers & Sisters..., > > Vanakam. Greetings. > > My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 > breast > cancer. > Is there any effective alternative treatment or cure to this > breast > cancer? > > Will any ayurvedic treatment give her any cure? > > Can she be cured by just a breast removal without any > chemotheraphy > or radiotheraphy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Devi, The best thing to begin with is a macrobiotic diet as well as absolutely strengthen her immune system. There are tons of things to do. When I had a tumor with intraductal carcinoma many years ago, I only treated myself naturally. I am sure our fellow forum mates will tell you what is available nowadays. There is a lot of info and don't be discouraged if they seem opposite to each other; it is only natural, as too many people have found a different way of curing it. Blessings, Dr. Maria Moratto Prescription For Bliss The Law of Attraction Alternative rx4bliss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I'm so sorry to hear about your relative. Please know that there are many things that can be done to help. But to stop in the beginning, before surgery worries me. I am also 50, a two time breast cancer survivor: once 14 years ago and then again last November. I have gone through numerous surgeries, chemotherapies and radiation to remove the cancer from my system. Selenium and large amounts of vitamin D are very important in helping your body fight off the tumor. Drinking green drinks will help also. And of course there are tons of antioxidents to bolster the immune system. I belong to a breast cancer support group at: http://health.breastcancer2/ There are women that have been survivors for years and ones that are newly diagnosed. They discuss what the doctors have told them regarding their situations. Many family members post there as well. I would recommend that she receives a second or third opinion from a doctor not associated with the first one. Or she could take her information to a tumor board for advice. But don't let her give up. Having breast cancer sucks, but getting through the medical treatment is doable. Most doctors would be more than happy to change her chemo regime to something that doesn't make her so ill. We all loose our hair from chemo, we all feel like crap during treatment, loose weight, get sick, sleep a lot and worry. But we get through it, heal, and then try to live a less stressful and healthy life so that the cancer does not return. Please tell her that there are others like her and that support and information is available. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Cindy Chemo Girl 2007 , " zetty_vj " <zetty_vj wrote: > > > > > Dear Brothers & Sisters..., > > Vanakam. Greetings. > > My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 breast > cancer. > > The Pathological Diagnosis dated 28.11.2007 reads as follow: > > " Excised right breast lump : Infiltrating ductal carcinoma. Not > otherwise specified, Bloom and Richardson grade 3 (3,3,2) with > inferior surgical margin involvement. " > > Upon a follow up consultation on 31.12.2007, the doctor decided for > a complete breast removal surgery as soon as possible. But since the > swelling is large in her breast, the doctor planned to reduce the > swellings prior to the intended surgery by giving her two rounds of > chemotheraphy of which the first was done on 04.01.2008 the next is > on 25.01.2008. > > My relative is now extremely weakened by the chemotheraphy. Although > she is taking Pharmaton multivitamins, spirulina and other > nutritious foods, she could hardly walk and find it hard to do even > the simple and light housework. She had lost her appetite to take > food and have been constantly vomitting with occassional purging. > Her hair had began to fall off. She could'nt stand the torturous > effect of the chemotheraphy and had decided not to go for the next > chemotheraphy. She is willing to let nature take it's course and end > her life than to go through all these sufferings. > > I feel so symphatetic for her. I tried to give her courage and > motivate her, but it is not giving any positive results. > > I love my relative so much and I desperately want to do something > good and effective to end her cancer problem. So, can any of you > please help my relative in this...? > > Is there any effective alternative treatment or cure to this breast > cancer? > > Will any ayurvedic treatment give her any cure? > > Can she be cured by just a breast removal without any chemotheraphy > or radiotheraphy? > > Dear Brothers & Sisters, please give me your precious advice. > > Thank you so much. > > God Bless You. > > Devi > zetty_vj > > ********************************************************************* > ********************************************************************* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 If I had cancer, I would invest in a Ralph Moss report before I did anything else. Ralph Moss is that rare creature: a person without an ideological axe to grind when it comes to Natural Vs Modern Allopathic. He has studied the topic deeply, and can be counted on to recommend the mix of approaches that has the best track record for this particular variety of cancer. That may include chemotherapy or surgery, whatever it takes, but with recommendations for the right supplements to help one through it. There are many excellent products and diets out there and they have all worked for SOME people. I have heard of people recover on a Macrobiotic diet, and on a raw food diet, and those are quite different. You want to shorten the learning curve and this is a good way to do it. http://ralphmoss.com When it comes to supplements to support the healing process, different products have the right vibration for different people. I am deeply bonded to Klamath Lake AFA, and to Rainforest Treasure tea. Both substances have some anti-cancer properties. But other people have a similar feeling for Noni juice, which is also great stuff. Shana Clagg on this list has a version mixed with raspberry and blueberry extract that is actually delicious. And so on. The best way to figure out which product agrees most with you might be to find a practitioner truly skilled in muscle testing. And for people who have survived it, I came across this wonderful piece of wisdom from the mother of an acquaintance. She had beaten the condition, and was asked to join a group for " people living with cancer " Replied the feisty lady: " I am not living with him, I divorced him! " . Great attitude or what! All the best Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.blogspot.com (blog) http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) http://wildwholefoods.net (AFA algae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 What do you mean " there is no way out " ?? There's always a way! A lot of people have been cured of breast cancer. Carol , pbala wrote: > > Chemotherapy plus Reiki helps such cases. > There is no way out. > bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dear Devi, This is so important that you read through what I'm about to tell you and if there some way you could pass this 'knowledge through experience' on to your loved one, it would I'm sure be very helpful in her decision making process. I understand exactly what you're going through as in the recent past my own dear friend was diagnosed similarly and chose to go through an identical scenario. What I learnt from her experience was a whole new concept and observed fact of what really should be considered 'natural' and what is just downright pain for pain sake. Of course your friend is suffering from the effects of chemo - but that is temporary. Death is permanent. Chemo (and other cancer drugs recently developed) are extremely powerful drugs designed for out of the ordinary, extreme, life threatening purposes. they are used as a temporary measure, usually only once or twice in a persons treatment. But although not guaranteed to work but they are very effective in what they are designed to do. Natural therapies and medicines are different, they can and are often used over many, many times over a persons lifetime and especially helpful in health maintenance and prevention. They are not designed for extreme life threatening cases. They are also not guaranteed to work but they are very effective in what they are designed to do. And make no mistake although we (including myself) prefer natural remedies, all remedies even those from a plant or from the air itself are 'designed' and somehow manipulated by human intervention. So we should always think about the term 'natural' before being intolerant of combining other ways of therapy as well. Finally, and most importantly perhaps is the fact I observed first hand my friend dying of breast cancer very quickly and in pain and although there is no guarantee that the chemo would have saved her life, it would have given her a 'chance' at more life. The most saddest thing for us, her loved ones is that she admitted to me that she ended up regretting not trying 'everything she could' and for night putting up a fight using all that mankind had to offer her in the battle. She also regretted the fact that she had been so naive that she could just say 'I'll just give away the strong drugs and choose to follow nature's course'. Because, the terrible irony is that this an IMPOSSIBLE thing to do. WHY? because in the last months of her life, she had to turn to strong drugs and hospitalization anyway because of the severe pain. This sad fact (the fact that eventually there ALWAYS HAS TO BE MEDICAL INTERVENTION anyway) is often misunderstood or purposely left out of discussions about this important part of the decision making in a patient's cancer treatment course. And she should be make aware of all these facts before coming to a final decision. Her doctors and family and friends can all help gathering information about these facts. IMHO if one cannot avoid medical intervention and pain them why not go through the medical intervention and discomfort and better controlled pain while you still have a chance to keep alive. BTW I have seen both experiences, one person who denied medical treatment and one who didn't. One (my dearly missed friend) passed regretting her decision - the other (and incredibly her own bioligical sister) is still alive today after chemo, operations and identical type of breast cancer (after 15 years). Sorry for the rave, but it's so important that women (and men) get ALL the facts and don't put there head in the sand so then they can make an informed decision with no regrets. much love and good luck from Deborah Gray , " zetty_vj " <zetty_vj wrote: > > > > > Dear Brothers & Sisters..., > > Vanakam. Greetings. > > My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 breast > cancer. > > The Pathological Diagnosis dated 28.11.2007 reads as follow: > > " Excised right breast lump : Infiltrating ductal carcinoma. Not > otherwise specified, Bloom and Richardson grade 3 (3,3,2) with > inferior surgical margin involvement. " > > Upon a follow up consultation on 31.12.2007, the doctor decided for > a complete breast removal surgery as soon as possible. But since the > swelling is large in her breast, the doctor planned to reduce the > swellings prior to the intended surgery by giving her two rounds of > chemotheraphy of which the first was done on 04.01.2008 the next is > on 25.01.2008. > > My relative is now extremely weakened by the chemotheraphy. Although > she is taking Pharmaton multivitamins, spirulina and other > nutritious foods, she could hardly walk and find it hard to do even > the simple and light housework. She had lost her appetite to take > food and have been constantly vomitting with occassional purging. > Her hair had began to fall off. She could'nt stand the torturous > effect of the chemotheraphy and had decided not to go for the next > chemotheraphy. She is willing to let nature take it's course and end > her life than to go through all these sufferings. > > I feel so symphatetic for her. I tried to give her courage and > motivate her, but it is not giving any positive results. > > I love my relative so much and I desperately want to do something > good and effective to end her cancer problem. So, can any of you > please help my relative in this...? > > Is there any effective alternative treatment or cure to this breast > cancer? > > Will any ayurvedic treatment give her any cure? > > Can she be cured by just a breast removal without any chemotheraphy > or radiotheraphy? > > Dear Brothers & Sisters, please give me your precious advice. > > Thank you so much. > > God Bless You. > > Devi > zetty_vj > > ********************************************************************* > ********************************************************************* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Carol Thank you for the mail and your concern. I know even Gynaecologists with breat cancer have died even after removing both breasts and undertaking best treatments.Individual cases are exceptions. There is no doubt lot of persons have been cured of breast cancer. In advanced stage of cancer,chemotherapy is a must and can not be avoided. Giving energy from Reiki method lessens the suffering. regads bala - Carol <carol Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:33 am Re: BREAST CANCER....PLEASE HELP...!!! > What do you mean " there is no way out " ?? There's always a way! A lot > of people have been cured of breast cancer. > > Carol > > , pbala wrote: > > > > Chemotherapy plus Reiki helps such cases. > > There is no way out. > > bala > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Chemotherapy is not a cure and can always be avoided. It is just personal choice. Nobody has the right to push you or your relative to have chemotherapy if it is not the patient's EDUCATED CHOICE. There is no scientific evidence that chemotherapy is effective, if you find such evidence among millions of scientific papers please send me the link I will greatly appreciate it. Chemotherapy destroys everything. It is a given fact that it dramatically exhausts the cells of the marrow and of the blood, thus allowing a greater spreading of the infection. It irreversibly intoxicates the liver, thus preventing it from building new elements of defense, and it mercilessly knock out nerve cells, thus weakening the organism's reactive capabilities and delivering it to the invaders. This is mainly because it not clear how it affects the colonies, and because by strongly debilitating the organism such intervention makes the invasion of the mycetes faster and more ferocious. , pbala wrote: > > Dear Carol > Thank you for the mail and your concern. > I know even Gynaecologists with breat cancer have died even > after removing both breasts and undertaking best treatments.Individual cases are exceptions. > There is no doubt lot of persons have been cured of breast cancer. > In advanced stage of cancer,chemotherapy is a must and can not be avoided. > Giving energy from Reiki method lessens the suffering. > regads > bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Deborah Gray wrote: I understand exactly what you're going through as in the recent past my own dear friend was diagnosed similarly and chose to go through an identical scenario.> Dear Deborah, That was an excellent post, and exactly the reason why I recommend the Ralph Ross reports before doing anything else. Ralph Moss is one of the few voices that have no inherent bias in any direction, he just looks at what works, no matter what tradition it comes from. Cancer is no time for ideology. http://ralphmoss.com Teddyberen reported some positive outcomes from both Hallelujah acres and a macrobiotic center. Yeah! Three cheers! AND: I recently came across an article by a woman who thought she had successfully healed her cancer with natural means, only to have it come back. Now she is beating herself over the head for NOT doing the chemo-radiation thing. Read the article, " Cancer redux " here: http://www.organicanews.com/news/ The trouble is that no single system has any guarantees. Life has no guarantees. Sometimes it is just time to die, and no matter what we do, we end up going. No matter what one does, proponents of " the other side " will claim that they might have saved us. The allopaths will say that they might have helped if only we had not waited too long to have chemo. The proponents of the natural way will say they might have saved us if only we had not damaged our system with chemo first. Sometimes in a philosophical moment I think life was easier when people would just keep a loved one as comfortable as possible and called it Fate, or Karma, or God's will. Sometimes the best thing one can do for a loved one with cancer is to stop giving advice and just be there. All my best. Ien in the Kootenays http://ienvan.multiply.com (blog) http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) http://wildwholefoods.net (AFA algae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 I have to agree totally! I know of women with cancer, including breast cancer who have been cured of it WITHOUT the need for any surgery, chemo or other toxic treatments. By using alternative health care, a better diet and BLACK SALVE they have all been successful in the treatment and cure of cancer. I would certainly look into Black Salve and it's uses, benefits etc and I believe there is a Black Salve . Cheers Lyndall - " Jana " <jana Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:39 AM Re: BREAST CANCER....PLEASE HELP...!!! Chemotherapy is not a cure and can always be avoided. It is just personal choice. Nobody has the right to push you or your relative to have chemotherapy if it is not the patient's EDUCATED CHOICE. There is no scientific evidence that chemotherapy is effective, if you find such evidence among millions of scientific papers please send me the link I will greatly appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 " By using alternative health care, a better diet and > BLACK SALVE they have all been successful in the treatment and cure of > cancer. " What is Black Salve? I have never heard of this. Sounds like it would be for topical use? Tym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ieneke van Houten wrote: Dear Deborah, > > That was an excellent post, and exactly the reason > why I recommend the Ralph Ross reports before > doing anything else. > > Ralph Moss is one of the few voices that have no > inherent bias in any direction, he just looks at what > works, no matter what tradition it comes from. > Cancer is no time for ideology. > http://ralphmoss.com Thank you Ieneke for adding your insights with this excellent resource material and links to sites. And btw I think you're exactly right there are certainly no guarantees, but no need either to get bogged down with one sided thinking (why not both indeed?) and have informed, transparent discussions about this very important and topical subject. Informed choice is the key I feel, best wishes to all from Deborah. , " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan wrote: > > Deborah Gray wrote: > > I understand exactly what you're going through as in the recent > past my own dear friend was diagnosed similarly and chose to go > through an identical scenario.> > > Dear Deborah, > > That was an excellent post, and exactly the reason > why I recommend the Ralph Ross reports before > doing anything else. > > Ralph Moss is one of the few voices that have no > inherent bias in any direction, he just looks at what > works, no matter what tradition it comes from. > Cancer is no time for ideology. > http://ralphmoss.com > > Teddyberen reported some positive outcomes from > both Hallelujah acres and a macrobiotic center. > Yeah! Three cheers! > > AND: I recently came across an article by a woman > who thought she had successfully healed her cancer > with natural means, only to have it come back. > Now she is beating herself over the head for NOT > doing the chemo-radiation thing. > > Read the article, " Cancer redux " here: > http://www.organicanews.com/news/ > > The trouble is that no single system has any guarantees. > Life has no guarantees. Sometimes it is just time to > die, and no matter what we do, we end up going. > > No matter what one does, proponents of " the other > side " will claim that they might have saved us. > > The allopaths will say that they might have helped > if only we had not waited too long to have chemo. > > The proponents of the natural way will say they > might have saved us if only we had not damaged > our system with chemo first. > > Sometimes in a philosophical moment I think life > was easier when people would just keep a loved > one as comfortable as possible and called it > Fate, or Karma, or God's will. > > Sometimes the best thing one can do for a loved > one with cancer is to stop giving advice and just > be there. > > All my best. > > Ien in the Kootenays > http://ienvan.multiply.com (blog) > http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) > http://wildwholefoods.net (AFA algae) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 My thoughts are with you Devi and your relative. If you are interested please read the following articles: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-113807020.html http://www.drplechner.com/protocol.html Also Dr.Plechner's research can be found at the Broda O. Barnes medical research foundation in Trumbull CT. -Michele , " zetty_vj " <zetty_vj wrote: > > > > > Dear Brothers & Sisters..., > > Vanakam. Greetings. > > My relative aged 50 years have been diagnosed with a Grade 3 breast > cancer. > > The Pathological Diagnosis dated 28.11.2007 reads as follow: > > " Excised right breast lump : Infiltrating ductal carcinoma. Not > otherwise specified, Bloom and Richardson grade 3 (3,3,2) with > inferior surgical margin involvement. " > > Upon a follow up consultation on 31.12.2007, the doctor decided for > a complete breast removal surgery as soon as possible. But since the > swelling is large in her breast, the doctor planned to reduce the > swellings prior to the intended surgery by giving her two rounds of > chemotheraphy of which the first was done on 04.01.2008 the next is > on 25.01.2008. > > My relative is now extremely weakened by the chemotheraphy. Although > she is taking Pharmaton multivitamins, spirulina and other > nutritious foods, she could hardly walk and find it hard to do even > the simple and light housework. She had lost her appetite to take > food and have been constantly vomitting with occassional purging. > Her hair had began to fall off. She could'nt stand the torturous > effect of the chemotheraphy and had decided not to go for the next > chemotheraphy. She is willing to let nature take it's course and end > her life than to go through all these sufferings. > > I feel so symphatetic for her. I tried to give her courage and > motivate her, but it is not giving any positive results. > > I love my relative so much and I desperately want to do something > good and effective to end her cancer problem. So, can any of you > please help my relative in this...? > > Is there any effective alternative treatment or cure to this breast > cancer? > > Will any ayurvedic treatment give her any cure? > > Can she be cured by just a breast removal without any chemotheraphy > or radiotheraphy? > > Dear Brothers & Sisters, please give me your precious advice. > > Thank you so much. > > God Bless You. > > Devi > zetty_vj > > ********************************************************************* > ********************************************************************* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I believe that's 'blood root' salve. There was an article in Whole Dog Journal Magazine by a veterinarian who uses it on malignant tumors for her patients. It's odd as I know plenty of Germans who know Bloodroot as a liquor in their home country. So when I heard about it as a salve and treatment for tumors, I thought that was quite an interesting application. It seems to require a very experienced veterinarian for application and monitoring, as it can get gruesome from what I read. There is probably chance of infection and pain, so experience seems to be required. If you go to Whole-dog-journal.com you can read the article. Regards Michele , " miracles28 " <tymothys wrote: > > " By using alternative health care, a better diet and > > BLACK SALVE they have all been successful in the treatment and cure of > > cancer. " > > What is Black Salve? I have never heard of this. Sounds like it would > be for topical use? > Tym > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Sorry to hear about your predicament and wish the best. I have had a few in-laws with breast cancer. All have survived. The difference is they live in Peru. Along with the chemo and in a few cases removal, the Dr. treating them has told them to start on Graviola immediatly. They did, and in every case the cancer shrunk then disappeared. If you buy graviola extract from the internet be sure it's not watered down. The best way is to buy the powder and mix it yourself. I'm told it tastes terrible but you can mix it with juice. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Before self-administering anything please consult with highly qualified health practitioner who is trained in complementary and alternative medicine for oncology (this includes very broad spectrum of knowledge, not just speed course in herbal medicine or TCM of few weekends!!!). Orthodox therapies occasionally extend the lives of cancer victims and even save a relative few. Cancer survival rates have improved, overall, by only 1-2% since the 1950s, proving that orthodox therapies, despite the millions spent on their development, have had negligible impact. In some categories of cancer, survival rates have actually diminished since the advent of certain " proven " therapies, indicating in the view of some researchers that treatment may sometimes actually do more harm than good. Almost all of the approved therapies can and frequently do have very serious side effects which significantly diminish the quality of remaining life of the cancer victim. As I posted before, it is about educated choice (not just an informed choice because often an " information " may not be correct). Blessings! , " M. Richmond " <rollouts wrote: > > Sorry to hear about your predicament and wish the best. I have had a > few in-laws with breast cancer. All have survived. The difference is > they live in Peru. Along with the chemo and in a few cases removal, the > Dr. treating them has told them to start on Graviola immediatly. They > did, and in every case the cancer shrunk then disappeared. If you buy > graviola extract from the internet be sure it's not watered down. The > best way is to buy the powder and mix it yourself. I'm told it tastes > terrible but you can mix it with juice. > Good Luck! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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