Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been trying for 4 years. Anyway, I got curious today and was reading some information on a different forum on . Several women posted that they had been pregnant, had gone to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, that doctors swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " during pregnancy. However, I wonder about this. It is an invasive procedure. Some women experience bleeding and cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her doctor " forced " Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 > lendytaylor10 wrote: > > I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been > trying for 4 years. Anyway, I got curious today and was > reading some information on a different forum on . > Several women posted that they had been pregnant, had gone > to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next > day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, > that doctors swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " > during pregnancy. However, I wonder about this. It is an > invasive procedure. Some women experience bleeding and > cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her doctor " forced " > Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about > women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. > When a doctor bullies the best reaction is to leave. More often than not " screening " procedures actually can cause the disease they are screening for. JAMA itself noted, I believe in December 2002, that at two mammograms the woman's chance of breast cancer begins to increase over not getting them at all. When you abuse a part of the body for a " screening " test, you are probably increasing the risk of the disease you are screening for. My daughter was very adverse to ultrasounds during her pregnancies. You said you have been trying for four years to get pregnant? There are three circuits I balance in my work that I have to warn people that they may become fertile, especially when done on both sides of the couples at the same time. In fact, I have seen many pregnancies come from balancing those circuits on both sides at once. My daughter's neighbors had been trying for some time and decided they would never have a second child (first one was 5-6). Balancing the circuits on them, in 10 months they had a new little one. I've seen it with many others as well. Two hormone circuits and pituitary (for those who are wondering what circuits). You're welcome to contact me if you wish to see if it works for you. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Thanks for the information. What kind of therapy do you practice? Is it hormone balancing? I'd like to hear more. I live in Texas, however. I'd need to find a practitioner here. I have been trying for 4 years to get pregnant. My estrogen levels were always way too high. Losing weight helped them go down, but I've put back on the weight again. I've been seeing REs and getting IUI, IVF, etc. I saw one RE who tried to bully me into getting a mammogram, before he would consider doing IVF with me. I left him and found a different RE. I asked me ob/gyn if I could have a breast sonogram instead, or an MRI - she refused to refer me for that. So, I got a full body thermography scan recently, instead. I do feel women are bullied by the medical profession to get mammograms, and its a potentially dangeorous procedure. Oh, and I also had an employer who tried to make everyone at work get a flu shot, I refused. I've never had one - never will ! Kat Miller <js_kat wrote: > lendytaylor10 wrote: > > I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been > trying for 4 years. Anyway, I got curious today and was > reading some information on a different forum on . > Several women posted that they had been pregnant, had gone > to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next > day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, > that doctors swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " > during pregnancy. However, I wonder about this. It is an > invasive procedure. Some women experience bleeding and > cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her doctor " forced " > Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about > women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. > When a doctor bullies the best reaction is to leave. More often than not " screening " procedures actually can cause the disease they are screening for. JAMA itself noted, I believe in December 2002, that at two mammograms the woman's chance of breast cancer begins to increase over not getting them at all. When you abuse a part of the body for a " screening " test, you are probably increasing the risk of the disease you are screening for. My daughter was very adverse to ultrasounds during her pregnancies. You said you have been trying for four years to get pregnant? There are three circuits I balance in my work that I have to warn people that they may become fertile, especially when done on both sides of the couples at the same time. In fact, I have seen many pregnancies come from balancing those circuits on both sides at once. My daughter's neighbors had been trying for some time and decided they would never have a second child (first one was 5-6). Balancing the circuits on them, in 10 months they had a new little one. I've seen it with many others as well. Two hormone circuits and pituitary (for those who are wondering what circuits). You're welcome to contact me if you wish to see if it works for you. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 I had never thought of it in this light before, but now that you mention it, I had my last pap smear in February of this year and shortly afterward, I miscarried. The ultrasound showed that the baby stopped growing the day of my OB appointment. I'm going to ask my friend who's a midwife. It seems, though, that you can easily avoid it by ensuring that a pregnancy test is done before you do a pap smear. The urine test results can be obtained quickly & the pap avoided if you're pregnant. , " lendytaylor10 " <lendytaylor10 wrote: > > I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been trying for 4 > years. Anyway, I got curious today and was reading some information on > a different forum on . Several women posted that they had been > pregnant, had gone to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next > day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, that doctors > swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " during pregnancy. > However, I wonder about this. It is an invasive procedure. Some women > experience bleeding and cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her > doctor " forced " Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about > women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 No doctor can force you to have a procedure. On the other hand, if it were that easy to provoke a miscarriage, think of what the political landscape would look like.. Quite different! No, I do NOT want to start a fruitless discussion on the A word. Just think about it. If it were that easy, would we have those bitter fights? Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com (blog) http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) http://wildwholefoods.net (AFA algae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 My daughter had a pap test at 2 months and then they did another one because the hpv virus came bake moderate high the first time. The other pap test was at 8 months and she is fine. The test for the hpv virus came back really low this time and i was told that it can go dorment in your body when some obgyn tell you it cant. Kat Miller <js_kat wrote: > lendytaylor10 wrote: > > I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been > trying for 4 years. Anyway, I got curious today and was > reading some information on a different forum on . > Several women posted that they had been pregnant, had gone > to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next > day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, > that doctors swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " > during pregnancy. However, I wonder about this. It is an > invasive procedure. Some women experience bleeding and > cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her doctor " forced " > Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about > women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. > When a doctor bullies the best reaction is to leave. More often than not " screening " procedures actually can cause the disease they are screening for. JAMA itself noted, I believe in December 2002, that at two mammograms the woman's chance of breast cancer begins to increase over not getting them at all. When you abuse a part of the body for a " screening " test, you are probably increasing the risk of the disease you are screening for. My daughter was very adverse to ultrasounds during her pregnancies. You said you have been trying for four years to get pregnant? There are three circuits I balance in my work that I have to warn people that they may become fertile, especially when done on both sides of the couples at the same time. In fact, I have seen many pregnancies come from balancing those circuits on both sides at once. My daughter's neighbors had been trying for some time and decided they would never have a second child (first one was 5-6). Balancing the circuits on them, in 10 months they had a new little one. I've seen it with many others as well. Two hormone circuits and pituitary (for those who are wondering what circuits). You're welcome to contact me if you wish to see if it works for you. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 --Many women in the old days called LYDIA PINKHAM'S VEGETABLE COMPOUND - -- " A BABY IN EVERY BOTTLE " -Due to becoming pregnant after using it for menstrual cramps or other women's problems. It is still available in some drugstores and I found this site _______________ http://search.medshopexpress.com/? page=1 & query=lydia+pinkham & gclid=CMm6ppWEp5ACFRVNhgodmGvBqw Here is the " Ballad of Lydia Pinkham " Let us sing of Lydia Pinkham The benefactress of the human race. She invented a vegetable compound, And now all papers print her face. Mrs. Jones she had no children, And she loved them very dear. So she took three bottles of Pinkham's Now she has twins every year. I have also heard that some women fail to become pregnant because of very thick mucous plugging the opening to the uterus. So to dissolve the plug they take Robitussin cough syrup because it dissolves mucous a in the body as well as the lungs. I thought I would pass these beliefs on to you and who knows, they just might work.God Luck! love, cecile In , " lendytaylor10 " <lendytaylor10 wrote: > > I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been trying for 4 > years. Anyway, I got curious today and was reading some information on > a different forum on . Several women posted that they had been > pregnant, had gone to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next > day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, that doctors > swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " during pregnancy. > However, I wonder about this. It is an invasive procedure. Some women > experience bleeding and cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her > doctor " forced " Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about > women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 This is a forum (see link below) where some women wrote in claiming their pap smear caused their miscarriage: http://www.steadyhealth.com/Miscarriage_after_a_pap_smear_lp536184.html I don't know what to think. I would probably refuse the pap smear, because I have never had a bad result come back and I don't have HPV. I don't feel its necessary. I'm more concerned about staying pregannt, because if I ever do get pregnant it will be a miracle. Stephanie Jackson <SMc42TX wrote: I had never thought of it in this light before, but now that you mention it, I had my last pap smear in February of this year and shortly afterward, I miscarried. The ultrasound showed that the baby stopped growing the day of my OB appointment. I'm going to ask my friend who's a midwife. It seems, though, that you can easily avoid it by ensuring that a pregnancy test is done before you do a pap smear. The urine test results can be obtained quickly & the pap avoided if you're pregnant. , " lendytaylor10 " <lendytaylor10 wrote: > > I am not pregnant but am trying to conceive. Have been trying for 4 > years. Anyway, I got curious today and was reading some information on > a different forum on . Several women posted that they had been > pregnant, had gone to their ob/gyn and gotten a pap smear - and next > day, had a miscarriage. I noticed elsewhere on the net, that doctors > swear that this procedure is " perfectly safe " during pregnancy. > However, I wonder about this. It is an invasive procedure. Some women > experience bleeding and cramping afterwards. One woman claimed her > doctor " forced " Her to have the procedure! I can't stand hearing about > women being bullied into medical procedures by their doctors. > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 > Lendy wrote: > > Thanks for the information. What kind of therapy do > you practice? Is it hormone balancing? I'd like to > hear more. I live in Texas, however. I'd need to find > a practitioner here. I have been trying for 4 years > to get pregnant. Hi Lendy, Total Body Modification is the technique that balances the two hormone circuits plus pituitary, which often will cause great fertility. Hundreds of babies have been born after both sides of " infertile " couples had the work done on the same day. TBM is world-wide: http://tbmseminars.com/x_referral_list.asp Also EFT may be useful as well as other techniques. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Thanks for the link. I added it to my favorites, and will do some calling later in the week. I hope its affordable. I'm already paying for weekly acupuncture and twice weekly chiropractic care. Kat Miller <js_kat wrote: > Lendy wrote: > > Thanks for the information. What kind of therapy do > you practice? Is it hormone balancing? I'd like to > hear more. I live in Texas, however. I'd need to find > a practitioner here. I have been trying for 4 years > to get pregnant. Hi Lendy, Total Body Modification is the technique that balances the two hormone circuits plus pituitary, which often will cause great fertility. Hundreds of babies have been born after both sides of " infertile " couples had the work done on the same day. TBM is world-wide: http://tbmseminars.com/x_referral_list.asp Also EFT may be useful as well as other techniques. Kat Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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