Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Go to: http://www.lifevents.org There is an excellent Gall bladder cleanse, I and my son have done it several times. Good luck. herbal remedies , " fcampinose " <franciee@p...> wrote: > Please help. I have gall stones that become very painful at times. I > cannot have surgery because I would never wake up from the anest. I > have COPD and am on oxygen at all times is there anything I can take > for the stones. > thank you > francine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hi Francine, I don't know what COPD is, but it sounds like you have some health issues. If you haven't already done so, please get Doc's free tape and listen to it. Then you can have a free consult with him. It sounds like you could use it. I think the Total Body Cleanse would be great for you, but Doc should probably customize it for your individual situation. Week 3 on the cleanse is the Liver/Galbladder cleanse, but you need to make sure and cleanse the bowels before doing that. You don't want to dump things into a clogged system. LOL! Kelli | | fcampinose [franciee] | Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:22 PM | herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - Gall Stones | | | Please help. I have gall stones that become very painful at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I want to thank all of you for your input I requested Doc's free tape and will consult with him before doing anything I am on a lot of meds and oxygen so I will wait. thanks to all again I love reading the post because I am very new to this and want to learn all I can francine franciee ---- herbal remedies 09/09/04 12:12:12 herbal remedies RE: Herbal Remedies - Gall Stones Hi Francine,I don't know what COPD is, but it sounds like you have some health issues. If you haven't already done so, please get Doc's free tape and listen to it. Then you can have a free consult with him. It sounds like you could use it. I think the Total Body Cleanse would be great for you, but Doc should probably customize it for your individual situation. Week 3 on the cleanse is the Liver/Galbladder cleanse, but you need to make sure and cleanse the bowels before doing that. You don't want to dump things into a clogged system. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 > one option. Please... Anyone with good research on the subject Please > make it available so i can share it with her ASAP ?? Thanks in > advance, Moses > First of all, try to avoid surgery at all cost. There are several reports of adult onset diabetes in relation to having the gallbladder removed. Second, here is a cleanse that I've done twice now and have gotten wonderful results. http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/cleansing_or_surgery.asp No, it's not pleasant. But, when the alternative is surgery and diabetes later in life, I'll choose 3 days of unpleasantness. Third, gallstones are becoming more and more of a problem in our fast food nation. Avoid anything with trans fats and research good fats in order to incorporate them into your cooking and diet. Check out mercola.com. He has great information on foods that we should never eat and foods we should rarely eat. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Does any one have any treatment for gall stones removeal, other than the apple juice fast with olive oil and lemmon juice chaser- thanks in advance Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Dr. Schulze has a great liver/gallbladder flush, and a special tincture to dissolve gall stones. His web site is www.herbdoc.com My brother was having much pain and was scheduled for gall bladder removal, I told him about the cleanse and he did it. The pain went away and has not come back in a year. He did the 'regular' flush and didn't get the actual tincture that dissolves stones. It's a 5 day plan, but gentle, no puking or purging. It's taking herbs, teas and juicing for 5 days. Good luck. Renee ---- Does any one have any treatment for gall stones removeal, other than the apple juice fast with olive oil and lemmon juice chaser- thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 > Does any one have any treatment for gall stones removeal, other than the apple juice fast with olive oil and lemmon juice chaser- thanks in advance That's the best one I've heard of. This specific one worked for me: http://www.ener-chi.com/more_liv.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Don't take a chance with gall stones. If you are having problems see the doctor. You are better off to get the gall bladder out -- than getting pancreatiitis and being diabetic the rest of your life. I should have seen a doctor -- didn't and when I got so sick I had to go to the hospital -- I lost my gall bladder -- and pancreatitis caused me to be diabetic -- I wish I had had my gall bladder out before I got the pancreatitis, because diabetes is no fun!! It's work changing your diet, taking insulin shots for the rest of your life -- yeh!! it's better to see the doctor on this one thea --------- Forwarded message ---------- cheryl bullock <cooee.shari Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:20:17 -0800 (PST) Gall Stones Message-ID: <364023.76467.qm Does any one have any treatment for gall stones removeal, other than the apple juice fast with olive oil and lemmon juice chaser- thanks in advance Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Here is a gallstone cleaner that saved me from surgery: 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, (water, juice, etc.) After 4 hours, again 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, (water, juice, etc.) After 4 hours, 1/4 cup olive oil and 1/4 cup lemon juice, hold your nose and drink it down! Lay on your right side and go to sleep, trying to stay on your side throughout the night. It's okay to go to the bathroom if you need to. When you wake up, again 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, (water, juice, etc.) After 4 hours, again 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, (water, juice, etc.) Stay near the bathroom, the Epsom salts act as a laxative. When you take a dump you will see green globules floating on the surface. These are gall 'stones'. There may also be some parasites and other weird stuff in your stool. None of it belongs in your body! You should feel much better within 24 hours or so. If there was alot of 'stones' the first time you can repeat again in two weeks. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Um, my father had his gallbladder out as a very young man. But as an older adult he became diabetic. I have never heard of the two things being connected before. Where did you hear this? Personally I'd rather keep all the parts I have. They each do something major in the body. It's perfectly fine to clean the liver/gallbladder and have both continue to work correctly rather than take the gallbladder out and have the liver have to do double duty. Our livers are already much stressed today, what with all the toxins we live with. This is why it's important to do some cleanses before you need " them, or at the very least, as soon as an organ starts giving you trouble. It's always a bad idea to let a problem go on and on before trying to fix it. Samala, Renee ---- Don't take a chance with gall stones. If you are having problems see the doctor. You are better off to get the gall bladder out -- than getting pancreatiitis and being diabetic the rest of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 there were a few things forgotten on this hulda clark flush that makes things easier.....one citric acid..definitively a must to help the Epsom salt go down easier! the second is an amino acid called ornithine. This is necessary to help put you to sleep immediately so you are not uncomfortable after drinking the olive oil mixture. Also get a package of straws. drinking the oil mixture with the straw positioned in the back of your throat to avoid the taste buds is a helpful trick. BTW if anyone does the flush and would like to send me some of their stones...I " d appreciate it..the bigger the better. ! I'm in dc. medusa - " M. Richmond " <rollouts Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:57 PM Re: Gall Stones > Here is a gallstone cleaner that saved me from surgery: > > 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, > (water, juice, etc.) <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I would like to know what causes gall stones. Also did you get your details for treatment out of some book? If so name and author please. Regards David Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 For those who can't do the epsom salts in the gall bladder cleanse, you can do the one I posted earlier. Epsom salt contains magnesium sulfate which can trigger kidney stones. There isn't a problem with sleeping if you aren't using epsom salts. Jenny Kernan --- medusa569 <medusa569 wrote: > there were a few things forgotten on this hulda > clark flush that makes things easier.....one citric > acid..definitively a must to > help the Epsom salt go down easier! the second is > an amino acid called ornithine. This is necessary > to help put you to sleep > immediately so you are not uncomfortable after > drinking the olive oil mixture. Also get a package > of straws. drinking the oil > mixture with the straw positioned in the back of > your throat to avoid the taste buds is a helpful > trick. > > BTW if anyone does the flush and would like to send > me some of their stones...I " d appreciate it..the > bigger the better. ! I'm in > dc. > > > medusa > > > > > > - > " M. Richmond " <rollouts > > Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:57 PM > Re: Gall Stones > > > > Here is a gallstone cleaner that saved me from > surgery: > > > > 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces > of cold fluid, > > (water, juice, etc.) <snip> > > > Quantum Biofeedback Therapist Theta Practitioner/ Medical Intuitive www.quantumassociatesoftuah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The Portuguese or Quechua names for this herb literally mean: " Stone Breaker " . In the tropics it is a total weed. I have an online friend in Sao Paulo who rips it out of her tiny garden just like we have to do with chickweed. It worked for a member of this group who tried it for kidney stones. It supposedly works for gall stones too. I have it in a formula mixed with other liver herbs, and you can get it as a simple tincture from http://Rain-Tree.com The name of the herb is Chanca Piedra, AKA Quebra Pedra. When it is dressed up in Latin it goes by Phyllanthus Niruri, and in India it is known as Buiamlaki. Does it have side effects? oh yes! It is also a powerful anti-viral. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com (blog) http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Gall Stones are formed when Calcium and Cholesterol glue together in your gall bladder. Some stones are hereditary and some are caused by loosing weight too fast. Women are more prone to yo yo dieting and have more trouble with their gall blader as a result. Many people have gall sones and they cause no problems but if they cause you pain they may become serious and need surgery so be sure to see a Doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 This is the same cleanse I use, very simple and effective, my son, 36, has done it many times since he was 20, all with good results. One would be foolish to have the Gallbladder removed! , " M. Richmond " <rollouts wrote: > > Here is a gallstone cleaner that saved me from surgery: > > 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, > (water, juice, etc.) > After 4 hours, again > 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, > (water, juice, etc.) > After 4 hours, > 1/4 cup olive oil and 1/4 cup lemon juice, hold your nose and drink > it down! > Lay on your right side and go to sleep, trying to stay on your side > throughout the night. It's okay to go to the bathroom if you need to. > When you wake up, again > 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, > (water, juice, etc.) > After 4 hours, again > 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt dissolved in 8 ounces of cold fluid, > (water, juice, etc.) > Stay near the bathroom, the Epsom salts act as a laxative. When you > take a dump you will see green globules floating on the surface. > These are gall 'stones'. There may also be some parasites and other > weird stuff in your stool. None of it belongs in your body! > You should feel much better within 24 hours or so. If there was alot > of 'stones' the first time you can repeat again in two weeks. > Good Luck! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 It is not the Epsom that prompts the bile excretion....or stone " attacks " on the contrary it is a relaxant that allows the ducts to stay relaxed while the fat on the olive oil prompts the bile release. It is after drinking such a quantity of olive oil that makes some people quite nauseous and can affect their ability to sleep. medusa - " Jenny Kernan " <rainysnana Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:15 PM Re: Re: Gall Stones > For those who can't do the epsom salts in the gall > bladder cleanse, you can do the one I posted earlier. > Epsom salt contains magnesium sulfate which can > trigger kidney stones. There isn't a problem with > sleeping if you aren't using epsom salts. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 That is why you add the coke, the Blueplerum and the Ortho-phos...this is a proven method and clients my mother has worked with have avoided gallbladder surgery. The Ortho-Phos breaks down the stones, the Blueplerum nourishes the liver. I have had personal experience with the epsom salts...and with magnesium sulfate. Given that to stop preterm labor and ended up with kidney stones twice and hospitalized for them. When I do a liver/gallbladder cleanse without the epsom salts I don't have that trouble. And yes the coke does make the olive oil go down easier without the nausea and the sleeplessness. Jenny Kernan --- medusa569 <medusa569 wrote: > It is not the Epsom that prompts the bile > excretion....or stone " attacks " on the contrary it > is a > relaxant that allows the ducts to stay relaxed while > the fat on the olive oil prompts the bile release. > It > is after drinking such a quantity of olive oil that > makes some people quite nauseous and can affect > their > ability to sleep. > > medusa > > > - > " Jenny Kernan " <rainysnana > > Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:15 PM > Re: Re: Gall Stones > > > > For those who can't do the epsom salts in the gall > > bladder cleanse, you can do the one I posted > earlier. > > Epsom salt contains magnesium sulfate which can > > trigger kidney stones. There isn't a problem with > > sleeping if you aren't using epsom salts. > > > > > > Quantum Biofeedback Therapist Theta Practitioner/ Medical Intuitive www.quantumassociatesoftuah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 With this gall stone cleanse, does one have to fast as well? I have always been held back by the need for fasting and, shudder! doing without my morning coffee. I am the only female member of my family to retain a gallbladder, and have no problems either. I give credit to digestive enzymes and an overall good but not fanatic diet. Ien in the Kootenays No more senior moments for me! I even know where the car keys are. ask me. ienvan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 No fasting..you can eat regular diet. Jenny Kernan --- Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote: > With this gall stone cleanse, does one have > to fast as well? I have always been held > back by the need for fasting and, shudder! > doing without my morning coffee. > > I am the only female member of my family > to retain a gallbladder, and have no problems > either. I give credit to digestive enzymes > and an overall good but not fanatic diet. > > Ien in the Kootenays > No more senior moments for me! > I even know where the car keys are. > ask me. ienvan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quantum Biofeedback Therapist Theta Practitioner/ Medical Intuitive www.quantumassociatesoftuah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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