Question about natural induction of labor

[Guest guest]

One word " Enema " . If I'd had one with my son child I probably wouldn't have

needed Pitocin then ended up with an emergency C-section. Empying your colon

will make more room for the baby. Maybe you can see if it would induce labor to

do it a couple of days early. It certainly can't hurt.(I'm talking about a

natural one not a bunch of chemicals). In Germany it is still routine to give

the women enemas when they go into labor. It makes for easier births. On another

note, the baby may come early no matter what. My daughter was three weeks early.

It was also an emergency c-section. I had no amniotic fluid left. I always

thought I'd have these wonderful, natural birth experiences, but you can't

predict the outcome of your birth experience.My kids came out healthy and that's

all that really matters. You can hope for the best. Everything will go as it

should. Blessings Alison

 

Michelle <michelle wrote: Hi Jessika,

 

You sound stressed and worried and are thinking some pretty negative

thoughts. It almost seems that you " expect " to experience the worst.

The best thing you can do is change your thinking! Relax. Visualize

your baby being ready to arrive at the perfect time. Talk to him/her

about it. Be the creator of your own beautiful birth experience!

 

And, while you're at it, take some castor oil, enjoy a spicey dinner

and indulge in great sex!

 

Relax and KNOW that everything is perfect,

Michelle

 

PS I had my only child at almost 40. My water broke 2 weeks early and

I hadn't even begun to dialate. Took 18 hours to get to 3 cm.

Therefore, I had a " Pitocin birth " . Yep, I had an IV, but I walked

the halls of my birthing center, did NOT have a monitor screwed into

my sons head, did NOT need foreceps, and had a beautiful vaginal

delivery. THINK GOOD THOUGHTS!

 

> During a pitocin birth, I will experience contractions

> that are stronger and more frequent than I would in a

> natural birth. I will be forced to stay lying in bed

> with an iv in me and an internal fetal heart monitor

> screwed into my baby's scalp. Pitocin births greatly

> increase the liklihood of all other interventions,

> including epidurals, forceps birth, and cesarian.

> Pitocin also increases the liklihood of all sorts of

> complications, including the extremely rare uterine

> rupture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

If a woman goes to 42 weeks, it can be an indication that there is trouble.

Frequent tests are done which may result in an induction or a C-sec. In my

years in Labor & Delivery, I have seen babies who are in trouble in a flash.

Where did you ever get that canard? Relations between husband and wife

that are open to conception are encouraged. To do otherwise is a sin. The

child is not a sin.

 

Denise

>

> yes .. underneath it all, according to Rome, every child is born from sin

> ... no

> matter what mother does. So what does that memory do to the uterus and

> pelvic

> floor of female .. especially when she is about to give birth!

>

> if you can find a very good Yoga teacher who knows these things, then

> birth can

> be done with pure sound, no pushing, no labor .. only pure orgasmic

> ecstasy as

> the child birth itself .. with no pain afterwards.

>

> but that mother can never talk about her experience because birth is not

> supposed to be like that .. unless the child is a Buddha or Jesus ...

>

> but, isn't that the birthright of every child born?

>

> Christopher Wynter

[Guest guest]

Jenny and Christopher, I'm not sure what that had to

do with my question but thanks for the information, it

was very interesting. I'm afraid, however, that cost

is sort of important to me. It's going to cost me

4000 to 5000 dollars to have a baby without insurance.

That's two and a half months pay, and I have a house

hold to support. I do not have a spouse or boyfriend

who I can fall back on for financial help. I do not

qualify for Medicaid because my salary is too high.

My work does offer health insurance, but I would have

to deliver at a military hospital where they have a

tendency to put a two hour time limit on your labor

before they give you a cesarian, and in that

situation, I will not have the option of choosing

another doctor. Its my city's one military hospital,

or its a ditch on the side of the highway, for all

they care. The insurance will not cover anything but

that one hospital. Naturally, if baby does not come

before Nov 20th, I will be forced to go to the

military hospital, but if at all possible, I would

like to have the most natural, smooth and calm birth

as possible, and that will be most likely if I go into

labor before the 20th and can have my baby at the

hospital of my choice.

I suppose my financial needs seem pretty shallow, but

as important as baby's birth is, it is also important

to put a roof over its head and to feed it after it is

born. Food, rent and utilities cost money, and I am

the only source of money for my household. I have

every intention of breast feeding, but I will have a

hard time producing milk if I don't eat. 5000 dollars

is just about 5 months rent, so sure, I'll just have

my baby whenever and live on the streets for five

months, during a Colorado winter, because that would

be better for the baby than using a little bit of

evening primrose oil to soften my cervix. Is that

what you are suggesting?

I don't mean to sound short but it seems like you

aren't being very understanding. I can't even afford

to have this baby, let alone start hiring hypnotists

and switching doctors randomly 8 weeks before the baby

is due. I wish nothing more than to be able to afford

the best labor assistants and natural pain management

methods (luckily, I was able to get a doula for a

greatly reduced price because my 1st Sgt's wife is a

doula, but thats all I have), but unfortunately, I

cannot afford that. All I want is to labor without

drugs for as long as it takes to get the baby out, and

I don't care if I feel pain, I'm pretty sure I'm

supposed to anyhow. And after thats done, I sure wish

I could stay home with my baby while someone else

worries about paying the rent and keeping us fed, but

unfortunately, I am going back to work because rent

and food and utilities are my responsibilities. This

is the reality of single parenting, I'm afraid.

Maybe I'm just being emotional (I am, after all,

pregnant), but I resent the suggestion that I am

somehow uneducated about the health of my baby or

somehow don't care about the health of my baby just

because I have to consider cost issues with its birth.

I am sorry that I got pregnant out of wedlock so that

I had to take on all of these responsibilities. From

the sounds of it you would seem to be happy that I did

not choose to terminate the pregnancy. Now that I am

past that magic 14 week point where abortion is no

longer legal there is suddenly no sympathy for me

then? Are the lives of me and my baby worth less now

that there is no chance of me terminating? I guess

you consider all of this my punishment for not sewing

my knees together until a man came along and gave me

permission to have a child? Whatever you think of me

and my position, I am trying to do the best I can with

what I have, and after weighing my options I have

determined that it is more important to put a roof

over my baby's head after its born than it is to let

my baby come after the 20th. I would rather risk some

emotional problems later in life than to risk it

freezing to death in the first few weeks. I only have

so much to work with here.

 

 

 

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> If a woman goes to 42 weeks, it can be an indication that there is

> trouble. Frequent tests are done which may result in an induction

> or a C-sec.

 

Absolutely .. in many cases, induction and C-section may be the only alternative

 

 

> In my years in Labor & Delivery, I have seen babies

> who are in trouble in a flash.

 

Couldn't agree more

 

> Where did you ever get that canard?

 

Which one?

 

> Relations between husband and wife that are open to conception are

> encouraged. To do otherwise is a sin. The child is not a sin.

 

What the thinking mind thinks is 10% of the thinking process.

 

The other 90% comes from genetic memory .. in the 7 billion or so cells of the

body located from the neck down. Last time I looked, a child was conceived and

gestated in the center of gravity of the body.

 

The flow of the blood and the action of the womb is energetically controlled by

the center of the perineum muscle .. acupuncture point GV1/CV1/PV1 .. between

the legs.

 

Now .. the funny thing is that this is the point of first mitosis after

conception .. and holds that memory. It also controls the sinoatrial node in the

heart.

 

the part which 10% of you thinks with, is located about as far away from that

point as you can get .. at the opposite end of 32 or so vertebrae .. between the

ears ..

 

I suggest you read the doctrine of Original Sin .. women have been living with

it for nearly 2000 years. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/ might be a good place

to start.

[Guest guest]

Jessica,

 

Thank you for clarifying a few things ..

 

yes .. its OK to be emotional

 

Now .. as you have until November 20th, there are a number of

things that you can do (if you choose) which have a good

possibility of making a difference.

 

Best of all, they are going to cost you very little money .. and

they will benefit both your health and the babies .. and, we are

not going to use herbs or medication.

 

They will take a lot of your time and your focus .. but, you have

already pointed out your alternatives.

 

Now .. the first place is to start reducing some of the stress in

your life and, consequently, in babies.

 

I'm going to point you to some pages on my website and give you

some variations to some exercises. What I'm suggesting is that, by

getting into the inside of the issues, there will be nothing to

stop baby coming when it is ready.

 

Firstly .. http://www.anunda.com/support/letter.htm

 

You will need 3 letters on 3 separate pieces of paper .. (at least

for the moment) ... and you will benefit by writing them with your

non-dominant hand (left if you are right handed). The reason for

the non-dominant hand is that it brings up all sorts of stuff from

the unconscious and the conscious mind sometimes gets real funny

with some of it.

 

You can have all 3 letters on the go at the same time .. side by

side .. there may be something triggered in one that you need to

say in another. Take not of the process as I have outlined it on

the web page.

 

The first one is to your self .. everything that you think, feel,

emote concerning your present situation. You may find stuff comes

up concerning your own childhood, your mother and your

relationship with her during this.

 

The second one is to the father of the child .. again, don't hold

back .. and you may find all sorts of stuff come up concerning

your own father as a result of this.

 

The third one is to baby .. you write to it as though you are

talking to it .. all of the thoughts, feelings and emotions .. and

don't hold back.

 

At the completion of each session, read out aloud to your baby

everything that you have written in baby's letter. Give it the

sound vibrations to go with everything it is feeling inside you ..

talk to it as a person.

 

Secondly .. http://www.anunda.com/support/body.htm

 

This is going to get things moving in your body and should help

free up the pelvic floor. There is one modification to the

exercise .. as you touch each point, say out aloud to your self " I

unconditionally accept myself, in this moment, just the way I am "

 

Whilst I am on this set of pages (have a look at the picture of

the finger positions) .. as you lie down to sleep each night, lie

on your back and rest your fingers in your groin at the point

where the pubic bone disappears into the top of the leg on each

side. This is a trigger/release point which will, over time, free

up the pelvic floor and the lower back.

 

Thirdly .. http://www.anunda.com/support/hands.htm and

http://www.anunda.com/support/breath.htm

 

 

and a variation .. when breathing out, sound the word

'oooommmmmmmm' (om or aum) and sound it as deep as you can go ...

try to feel the sound of your voice resonating in and from your

belly

 

Fourthly .. if you feel like it ..

http://www.anunda.com/support/walk.htm is self explanatory.

 

Fifthly .. make sure you do your pelvic floor exercises.

 

Sixthly .. gentle Yoga for pregnancy .. stretching, elongating,

bending, twisting and rotating of the pelvis .. very gently to

loosen up the tension.

 

 

Now .. this is just a start ... if you want to go further, there

is more; depends of you. I can even give you an exercise (reflex

points) that will trigger labour .. but, not until later .. much

later.

 

If you have any questions, feel free to ask ..

 

Christopher Wynter

 

 

> Jenny and Christopher, I'm not sure what that had to do with my

> question but thanks for the information, it was very interesting.

> I'm afraid, however, that cost is sort of important to me. It's

> going to cost me 4000 to 5000 dollars to have a baby without

> insurance. That's two and a half months pay, and I have a house

> hold to support. I do not have a spouse or boyfriend who I can

> fall back on for financial help. I do not qualify for Medicaid

> because my salary is too high. My work does offer health insurance,

> but I would have to deliver at a military hospital where they have

> a tendency to put a two hour time limit on your labor before they

> give you a cesarian, and in that situation, I will not have the

> option of choosing

> another doctor. Its my city's one military hospital, or its a

> ditch on the side of the highway, for all they care. The insurance

> will not cover anything but that one hospital. Naturally, if baby

> does not come before Nov 20th, I will be forced to go to the

> military hospital, but if at all possible, I would like to have the

> most natural, smooth and calm birth as possible, and that will be

> most likely if I go into labor before the 20th and can have my baby

> at the hospital of my choice.

> I suppose my financial needs seem pretty shallow, but as important

> as baby's birth is, it is also important to put a roof over its

> head and to feed it after it is born. Food, rent and utilities

> cost money, and I am the only source of money for my household. I

> have every intention of breast feeding, but I will have a hard time

> producing milk if I don't eat. 5000 dollars is just about 5 months

> rent, so sure, I'll just have my baby whenever and live on the

> streets for five

> months, during a Colorado winter, because that would be better for

> the baby than using a little bit of

> evening primrose oil to soften my cervix. Is that what you are

> suggesting? I don't mean to sound short but it seems like you

> aren't being very understanding. I can't even afford to have this

> baby, let alone start hiring hypnotists and switching doctors

> randomly 8 weeks before the baby is due. I wish nothing more than

> to be able to afford the best labor assistants and natural pain

> management methods (luckily, I was able to get a doula for a

> greatly reduced price because my 1st Sgt's wife is a doula, but

> thats all I have), but unfortunately, I cannot afford that. All I

> want is to labor without drugs for as long as it takes to get the

> baby out, and I don't care if I feel pain, I'm pretty sure I'm

> supposed to anyhow. And after thats done, I sure wish I could stay

> home with my baby while someone else

> worries about paying the rent and keeping us fed, but

> unfortunately, I am going back to work because rent and food and

> utilities are my responsibilities. This is the reality of single

> parenting, I'm afraid. Maybe I'm just being emotional (I am, after

> all, pregnant), but I resent the suggestion that I am somehow

> uneducated about the health of my baby or

> somehow don't care about the health of my baby just because I have

> to consider cost issues with its birth. I am sorry that I got

> pregnant out of wedlock so that I had to take on all of these

> responsibilities. From the sounds of it you would seem to be happy

> that I did not choose to terminate the pregnancy. Now that I am

> past that magic 14 week point where abortion is no longer legal

> there is suddenly no sympathy for me

> then? Are the lives of me and my baby worth less now that there is

> no chance of me terminating? I guess you consider all of this my

> punishment for not sewing my knees together until a man came along

> and gave me permission to have a child? Whatever you think of me

> and my position, I am trying to do the best I can with what I have,

> and after weighing my options I have

> determined that it is more important to put a roof over my baby's

> head after its born than it is to let my baby come after the 20th.

> I would rather risk some emotional problems later in life than to

> risk it

> freezing to death in the first few weeks. I only have so much to

> work with here.

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh My Heck!

This thought is horrible and the reason society is so messed up.

No Child is born already " sinned " and I don't believe for one second that the

great creator of all (whatever you choose to call him/her) would force us all to

be damned from the getgo.

I agree with you Denise.

One thing this thought did for me, was to hug my beautiful perfect children a

little harder this morning and say an extra prayer the the adversaries will look

elsewhere with their chaotic disruption.

Sorry to sound like some sort of religious nut, But, NO CHILD IS BORN SINNED OR

SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SINS OF THEIR FATHER.

Okay,, I'm off my soap box! Have a great day all!

Jess

 

 

 

>

> yes .. underneath it all, according to Rome, every child is born from sin

> ... no

> matter what mother does. So what does that memory do to the uterus and

> pelvic

> floor of female .. especially when she is about to give birth!

>

> if you can find a very good Yoga teacher who knows these things, then

> birth can

> be done with pure sound, no pushing, no labor .. only pure orgasmic

> ecstasy as

> the child birth itself .. with no pain afterwards.

>

> but that mother can never talk about her experience because birth is not

> supposed to be like that .. unless the child is a Buddha or Jesus ...

>

> but, isn't that the birthright of every child born?

>

> Christopher Wynter

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ahh! Jessika!!!

Fort Carson it is! I was threatened with that Horse Birthing Stall myself.

Twice.

Same story it was all about the insurance.

I was allowed to go to the Colo Springs Center for Women tho. They accepted the

insurance there.

I dunno if they are still there or not, (It's been 9 years) But, they were a

fabulous birthing center and they did help me. I went into Evan's and absolutely

refused care and forced the doctor to refer me out. It can happen, You just have

to be the more stubborn party. I refused to allow them to measure or monitor or

to give a urine sample for several appointments and then sent Drs away until I

got hold of one that referred me out.

It can happen. Try really Hard. You are surrounded by lots of option s there.

Good Luck

Jess

-

Jessika Stone

Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:35 AM

Re: Question about natural induction of labor

 

 

Jenny and Christopher, I'm not sure what that had to

do with my question but thanks for the information, it

was very interesting. I'm afraid, however, that cost

is sort of important to me. It's going to cost me

4000 to 5000 dollars to have a baby without insurance.

That's two and a half months pay, and I have a house

hold to support. I do not have a spouse or boyfriend

who I can fall back on for financial help. I do not

qualify for Medicaid because my salary is too high.

My work does offer health insurance, but I would have

to deliver at a military hospital where they have a

tendency to put a two hour time limit on your labor

before they give you a cesarian, and in that

situation, I will not have the option of choosing

another doctor. Its my city's one military hospital,

or its a ditch on the side of the highway, for all

they care. The insurance will not cover anything but

that one hospital. Naturally, if baby does not come

before Nov 20th, I will be forced to go to the

military hospital, but if at all possible, I would

like to have the most natural, smooth and calm birth

as possible, and that will be most likely if I go into

labor before the 20th and can have my baby at the

hospital of my choice.

I suppose my financial needs seem pretty shallow, but

as important as baby's birth is, it is also important

to put a roof over its head and to feed it after it is

born. Food, rent and utilities cost money, and I am

the only source of money for my household. I have

every intention of breast feeding, but I will have a

hard time producing milk if I don't eat. 5000 dollars

is just about 5 months rent, so sure, I'll just have

my baby whenever and live on the streets for five

months, during a Colorado winter, because that would

be better for the baby than using a little bit of

evening primrose oil to soften my cervix. Is that

what you are suggesting?

I don't mean to sound short but it seems like you

aren't being very understanding. I can't even afford

to have this baby, let alone start hiring hypnotists

and switching doctors randomly 8 weeks before the baby

is due. I wish nothing more than to be able to afford

the best labor assistants and natural pain management

methods (luckily, I was able to get a doula for a

greatly reduced price because my 1st Sgt's wife is a

doula, but thats all I have), but unfortunately, I

cannot afford that. All I want is to labor without

drugs for as long as it takes to get the baby out, and

I don't care if I feel pain, I'm pretty sure I'm

supposed to anyhow. And after thats done, I sure wish

I could stay home with my baby while someone else

worries about paying the rent and keeping us fed, but

unfortunately, I am going back to work because rent

and food and utilities are my responsibilities. This

is the reality of single parenting, I'm afraid.

Maybe I'm just being emotional (I am, after all,

pregnant), but I resent the suggestion that I am

somehow uneducated about the health of my baby or

somehow don't care about the health of my baby just

because I have to consider cost issues with its birth.

I am sorry that I got pregnant out of wedlock so that

I had to take on all of these responsibilities. From

the sounds of it you would seem to be happy that I did

not choose to terminate the pregnancy. Now that I am

past that magic 14 week point where abortion is no

longer legal there is suddenly no sympathy for me

then? Are the lives of me and my baby worth less now

that there is no chance of me terminating? I guess

you consider all of this my punishment for not sewing

my knees together until a man came along and gave me

permission to have a child? Whatever you think of me

and my position, I am trying to do the best I can with

what I have, and after weighing my options I have

determined that it is more important to put a roof

over my baby's head after its born than it is to let

my baby come after the 20th. I would rather risk some

emotional problems later in life than to risk it

freezing to death in the first few weeks. I only have

so much to work with here.

 

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[Guest guest]

I had mine naturally; had no choice; they couldn't give me pain meds

with my high blood pressure -- its really an experience. Thank God

she was tiny - 5 lb. 6 oz. Please pray a lot, take care of yourself

the best you can - the baby senses the mother's stress - this is

fact. I read somewhere and I tend to think that it is true -

society's shame of child abuse is the result of unwanted pregnancies

and deliveries. A child is truly a gift - but as with any planned

gift, you must prepare or, if unplanned, take steps as best you can.

Get on the phone, call some numbers, inquire, find out what is

available to you and your lovely child. Find a church, make it your

home away from home and get some backup support - extended family, if

you will. Good Luck!

, Jess Phillips

<jessichka.p wrote:

>

> Ahh! Jessika!!!

> Fort Carson it is! I was threatened with that Horse Birthing Stall

myself. Twice.

> Same story it was all about the insurance.

> I was allowed to go to the Colo Springs Center for Women tho. They

accepted the insurance there.

> I dunno if they are still there or not, (It's been 9 years) But,

they were a fabulous birthing center and they did help me. I went

into Evan's and absolutely refused care and forced the doctor to

refer me out. It can happen, You just have to be the more stubborn

party. I refused to allow them to measure or monitor or to give a

urine sample for several appointments and then sent Drs away until I

got hold of one that referred me out.

> It can happen. Try really Hard. You are surrounded by lots of

option s there.

> Good Luck

> Jess

> -

> Jessika Stone

>

> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:35 AM

> Re: Question about natural

induction of labor

>

>

> Jenny and Christopher, I'm not sure what that had to

> do with my question but thanks for the information, it

> was very interesting. I'm afraid, however, that cost

> is sort of important to me. It's going to cost me

> 4000 to 5000 dollars to have a baby without insurance.

> That's two and a half months pay, and I have a house

> hold to support. I do not have a spouse or boyfriend

> who I can fall back on for financial help. I do not

> qualify for Medicaid because my salary is too high.

> My work does offer health insurance, but I would have

> to deliver at a military hospital where they have a

> tendency to put a two hour time limit on your labor

> before they give you a cesarian, and in that

> situation, I will not have the option of choosing

> another doctor. Its my city's one military hospital,

> or its a ditch on the side of the highway, for all

> they care. The insurance will not cover anything but

> that one hospital. Naturally, if baby does not come

> before Nov 20th, I will be forced to go to the

> military hospital, but if at all possible, I would

> like to have the most natural, smooth and calm birth

> as possible, and that will be most likely if I go into

> labor before the 20th and can have my baby at the

> hospital of my choice.

> I suppose my financial needs seem pretty shallow, but

> as important as baby's birth is, it is also important

> to put a roof over its head and to feed it after it is

> born. Food, rent and utilities cost money, and I am

> the only source of money for my household. I have

> every intention of breast feeding, but I will have a

> hard time producing milk if I don't eat. 5000 dollars

> is just about 5 months rent, so sure, I'll just have

> my baby whenever and live on the streets for five

> months, during a Colorado winter, because that would

> be better for the baby than using a little bit of

> evening primrose oil to soften my cervix. Is that

> what you are suggesting?

> I don't mean to sound short but it seems like you

> aren't being very understanding. I can't even afford

> to have this baby, let alone start hiring hypnotists

> and switching doctors randomly 8 weeks before the baby

> is due. I wish nothing more than to be able to afford

> the best labor assistants and natural pain management

> methods (luckily, I was able to get a doula for a

> greatly reduced price because my 1st Sgt's wife is a

> doula, but thats all I have), but unfortunately, I

> cannot afford that. All I want is to labor without

> drugs for as long as it takes to get the baby out, and

> I don't care if I feel pain, I'm pretty sure I'm

> supposed to anyhow. And after thats done, I sure wish

> I could stay home with my baby while someone else

> worries about paying the rent and keeping us fed, but

> unfortunately, I am going back to work because rent

> and food and utilities are my responsibilities. This

> is the reality of single parenting, I'm afraid.

> Maybe I'm just being emotional (I am, after all,

> pregnant), but I resent the suggestion that I am

> somehow uneducated about the health of my baby or

> somehow don't care about the health of my baby just

> because I have to consider cost issues with its birth.

> I am sorry that I got pregnant out of wedlock so that

> I had to take on all of these responsibilities. From

> the sounds of it you would seem to be happy that I did

> not choose to terminate the pregnancy. Now that I am

> past that magic 14 week point where abortion is no

> longer legal there is suddenly no sympathy for me

> then? Are the lives of me and my baby worth less now

> that there is no chance of me terminating? I guess

> you consider all of this my punishment for not sewing

> my knees together until a man came along and gave me

> permission to have a child? Whatever you think of me

> and my position, I am trying to do the best I can with

> what I have, and after weighing my options I have

> determined that it is more important to put a roof

> over my baby's head after its born than it is to let

> my baby come after the 20th. I would rather risk some

> emotional problems later in life than to risk it

> freezing to death in the first few weeks. I only have

> so much to work with here.

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