Trigger Finger

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> , " alison_kingsbury "

> <akingsbury@v...> wrote:

> Hi Liz...Awful..I'm a muscular therapist so I understand!! Did you

> try Arnica topically as well as internally.. Has helped me with

> similar condition from time to time... Alison

>

Hi Alison

I tried arnica oil (shop bought) externally without much success, but

haven't tried internally. I'll get some homeopathic arnica and try it, I

really should have thought of that, thanks!

Liz

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Hi Liz,

 

Buy the homeopathic arnica gel - its incredible stuff. I have put it onto

my skin when I have bashed myself against something, and never did bruise.

 

Mary

Well, Naturally

 

 

At 08:30 PM 7/8/2004 +0100, you wrote:

 

 

 

> > , " alison_kingsbury "

> > <akingsbury@v...> wrote:

> > Hi Liz...Awful..I'm a muscular therapist so I understand!! Did you

> > try Arnica topically as well as internally.. Has helped me with

> > similar condition from time to time... Alison

> >

>Hi Alison

>I tried arnica oil (shop bought) externally without much success, but

>haven't tried internally. I'll get some homeopathic arnica and try it, I

>really should have thought of that, thanks!

>Liz

>

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Hi

 

I am currently treating a patient for this. Unfortunately, all of her trigger

fingers (she has had 2 or 3 others) have been treated with surgery that severs

the tendon sheath. She came to me after the last surgery because of lingering

pain that she had not had with the previous surgeries. She has also had carpal

tunnel surgery in both wrists, and the tendons that were previously operated on

are still contracted in her palms with obvious protrusion.

 

In my research, I found this is highly correlated with Diabetes Mellitus, and

this patient has been on an insulin pump since age 9. She is now in her 50's.

 

I've been treating her with acupuncture and getting the best results with local

treatment, rather than systemic, and also local moxa. The tendon that was

initially contracted when she first came to see me a few months ago is now fully

extended, and the pain is nearly gone. I just started her on Health Concerns'

SPZM formula one week ago, and this was the first week the finger is fully

extended. I don't know if it is too soon to conclude that the herbs made the

big difference, because the finger was still contracted with no progress the

week previous. However, I also altered my acupuncture treatment last week, so

I'm not sure what allowed for the significant change.

 

I have diagnosed her with liver blood deficiency/failing to nourish tendons.

There are also in her case obvious spleen qi deficiency, liver qi stagnation,

and kidney yin deficiency.

 

 

 

< wrote:

Who has treated trigger finger, aka flexor digital tenosynovitis? It

is a quite bizarre disorder. Since it is often caused by Rheumatoid

arthritis or Diabetes Mellitus, I think a blood test would be

indicated.

 

In either of those cases as well as trauma or overuse, I would think

blood moving would be indicated. but there is something about the way

the finger catches right before it triggers that suggests something

else. Not sure what. Is this condition typically rooted in zang fu

imbalances or typically confined to the channels. Any thoughts?

 

 

 

Chinese Herbs

 

 

FAX:

 

 

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Hi Andrea Beth and Todd

 

I have seen only one case of this so far and she was also diabetic.

Quite brittle as a matter of fact although she had only been

diabetic since her late 30's after doing night shift for a year

taking care of her cancer-ridden mother: she still experienced

extreme grief fifteen years later and a somewhat overdeveloped sense

of compassion/martyrhood (she'd cry at just about any sad thing you

told her--Catholic roots as well--over-identification

with " sainthood " ?). She also was on a pump and experienced severe

swings in blood sugar, lows as well as highs. Didn't get to continue

treatment as she moved on before we had a chance to do much (also,

at that time I didn't really know what to do!) Soon after I saw her

it turned out she ended up with a heart problem (can't remember the

exact term but she had fibbrilatons which turned out to be from " an

extra nerve " I think--sinus node?-- which they had to zap with a

laser. Too much heart?) Just thought I'd mention the

Diabetic/trigger finger/ht/pc meridian link seen in my practice as

well.

 

Regards, Shanna

 

Regards, Shanna

 

,

<> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I am currently treating a patient for this. Unfortunately, all of

her trigger fingers (she has had 2 or 3 others) have been treated

with surgery that severs the tendon sheath. She came to me after

the last surgery because of lingering pain that she had not had with

the previous surgeries. She has also had carpal tunnel surgery in

both wrists, and the tendons that were previously operated on are

still contracted in her palms with obvious protrusion.

>

> In my research, I found this is highly correlated with Diabetes

Mellitus, and this patient has been on an insulin pump since age 9.

She is now in her 50's.

>

> I've been treating her with acupuncture and getting the best

results with local treatment, rather than systemic, and also local

moxa. The tendon that was initially contracted when she first came

to see me a few months ago is now fully extended, and the pain is

nearly gone. I just started her on Health Concerns' SPZM formula

one week ago, and this was the first week the finger is fully

extended. I don't know if it is too soon to conclude that the

herbs made the big difference, because the finger was still

contracted with no progress the week previous. However, I also

altered my acupuncture treatment last week, so I'm not sure what

allowed for the significant change.

>

> I have diagnosed her with liver blood deficiency/failing to

nourish tendons. There are also in her case obvious spleen qi

deficiency, liver qi stagnation, and kidney yin deficiency.

>

>

>

> wrote:

> Who has treated trigger finger, aka flexor digital tenosynovitis?

It

> is a quite bizarre disorder. Since it is often caused by

Rheumatoid

> arthritis or Diabetes Mellitus, I think a blood test would be

> indicated.

>

> In either of those cases as well as trauma or overuse, I would

think

> blood moving would be indicated. but there is something about the

way

> the finger catches right before it triggers that suggests

something

> else. Not sure what. Is this condition typically rooted in zang

fu

> imbalances or typically confined to the channels. Any thoughts?

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbs

>

>

> FAX:

>

>

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I have a patient that has this. She is a massage therapist, and no

known DM. Worse after working long days. I did the local ba xie

and moxa etc. Gave her the moxa to do at home as well. After a

couple of weeks we didn't have any improvement. After that, I

decided to do the jing well on the affected finger, P9, and did P7,

P8, and the tender spots where the finger meets the palm (which I

had done before). Her trigger finger was gone about 30 min after

the tx. I'm not sure how long it's going to last, but it was a

dramatic improvement from the previous weeks of tx. I try to avoid

doing jing well points if I can, but I think it was a good addition

this time.

 

Geoff

 

,

wrote:

> Who has treated trigger finger, aka flexor digital tenosynovitis?

It

> is a quite bizarre disorder. Since it is often caused by

Rheumatoid

> arthritis or Diabetes Mellitus, I think a blood test would be

> indicated.

>

> In either of those cases as well as trauma or overuse, I would

think

> blood moving would be indicated. but there is something about the

way

> the finger catches right before it triggers that suggests

something

> else. Not sure what. Is this condition typically rooted in zang

fu

> imbalances or typically confined to the channels. Any thoughts?

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbs

>

>

> FAX:

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had trigger finger, and Orhopedic Surgeon told me I needed surgery, as hand

will never be the same. I, being an ex Operating Room Nurse, asked him could

he guarantee that it would not return, and he did not answer. I asked to see

my X-rays, and took them home, and then began to figure out what to do. Mine

was from an injury. I was at work, and I tripped over something, and held onto

desk with my right hand in the middle of thumb and second finger and that is

what happened. Pain was severe and range of motion was none. This is what I

did. This may not be the solution for everyone, but it worked for me, and I

needed to do something in a hurry before it became worse and I had to submit to

surgery.When I saw doctor, the finger would not straighten out much and if it

did

the clicking was so bloody painful.

 

Dr. Christopher has a product called B F & C. I made a fomentation of that

and kept it on all night long. I put on a rubber glove and kept over the area

to keep area moist. I also took 18 of the BF & C capsules daily.

 

Used hot and cold treatment , alternatively, as many times as I could a day.

For instance, 5 minutes cold, 5 minutes hot, if hot felt better, did that

longer, if cold felt better, did that longer. Whatever made me feel more

comfortable in that area.

Cayenne oil or ointment rubbed into area many times a day.

BF & C oil rubbed into area many times a day.

Bromelain

Tumeric

Would stick my thumb in lobelia if pain was real bad.

Had a splint made out of cloth from drug store, that kept my finger straight

during the day, and held any type of treatment I was using in tact.

 

This took me over two months to heal, but I now have full range of motion, no

clicking, no thumb getting stuck in knuckle position , no deformation of

thumb to point it was stuck in certain position .

 

I think I have thought of everything. If I think of anything else, will let

you know. I stayed on a good clean diet while healing, a non mucus forming

diet. This truly was a challenge to me, but did not want the surgery, one, I

knew

it could come back, and 2, know two people that have had that surgery that

have numbness in area, have never had full motion, and numbness was not only in

thumb, it is in other parts of hand, including wrist

Diane M

 

 

 

 

 

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