Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Renee writes: Hi. I have several cats and I suspect they all have worms. I have seen the little white rice looking worms on the but of one of the cats, and I'm assuming if one has worms they all do. And as I have dogs, I wonder if the dogs can have the same type of worms? I haven't seen any in the dog's poop, but I have in the cat litter box. So, is there a safe, homeopathic remedy for this type of worm? Or worms in general? I know I can use fresh ground pumpkin seed in the food for my dogs but some of my cats are too finicky and won't eat their food if it has the pumpkin seeds in it. Renee - Those white 'rice' are tape worm eggs. That will mean that your cats are infested! Yes, and can be passed to dogs IF they ingest via/through a substance i.e. infected feces (eating it), infected food link (mouse/rat/rabbit etc). To pass on has to be ingested via another organism. OK. Don't fool with this. Get thee to the vet and get the whole bunch of em treated pdq. AFTER treatment then can try for control via homeopathic methods but for this infestation treat by alopathy, and do it quickly, like pronto. Tape worms are no good for the animal. They attach to the lining of the gut and multiply. They pull the animal down, which in turn can/will lead to other ills. Totally unfair to the animal and not good, loving, animal keeping. A tape worm can grow to several feet long - google it up. These worm infestations can be passed onto humans...! In addition, round worms, which infest dogs and cats (both, though slightly different types of round specis to each: Toxocara canis and Toxascaris; Toxocara cati and Toxascaris) are highly dangerous to humans. Please note, that I am referring to round worms here - the larvae can be passed through infected animal, infected play area...! An infection can lead to embryonic worm infestation in the liver, heart, lungs, gut and eyes. Blindness in children is often caused by the embryonic round worm. In the human, the worm does not develop to adult, but the egg/grub/embryo, burrows into the tissue and thereafter leads to the problems! Cats and dogs MUST be wormed on a regular basis. Worming is easy and gets rid of the worms - worming medication should be bought from your vet, Drontal is good. Those worming meds bought over the counter are NOT good. They only get rid of the adult worm and not the larvae, embryonic worm. You need to get rid of the whole bang shoot of em, adult and larvae: only drontal (or similar) does that. So don't go the cheapo route, please. ANY faeces should be picked up and BURNT. Do NOT bury dog/cat faeces, ever. By the way, infected faeces can remain infective, viable, in the ground for more than THREE years. Most people are totally unaware of these problems. Always wash hands and do not kiss dogs and cats - their noses and tongues clean their bums...!! Stroke, pat, hug, do not kiss. Wash hands. Pick up and BURN faeces. Hope this has clarified the worm, tape and round species. Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Good info. A few years back I took a stool sample into the vet to check for worms and though I forget now what type he said they were, he said " oh, it's very common for cats to have these worms. It comes from drinking stale water that sits in the bottom of potted plants " and sold me some pills. These worms look like the same type as before, and he didn't call them tape worms I remember that much. I have been looking for a worm in a stool sample so I can take it in to be checked, but haven't found one yet--though I have seen those on the but of one cat. And I figure if one has it, they all do, and probably the dogs, and us. So we will all have to go on a regime. The dogs and us will be much easier but you know how fussy cats are. So I suppose the stronger vet pills would be better just to get a handle on this and then put a preventative measure into action. Thanks Renee ---- Renee - Those white 'rice' are tape worm eggs. That will mean that your Cats are infested! Yes, and can be passed to dogs IF they ingest via/through a Substance I.e. Infected feces (eating it), infected food link (mouse/rat/rabbit etc). To pass on has to be ingested via another organism. OK. Don't fool with this. Get thee to the vet and get the whole bunch of Em treated pdq. AFTER treatment then can try for control via homeopathic Methods but for this infestation treat by alopathy, and do it quickly, like Pronto. Tape worms are no good for the animal. They attach to the lining of the gut And multiply. They pull the animal down, which in turn can/will lead to Other ills. Totally unfair to the animal and not good, loving, animal keeping. A tape worm can grow to several feet long - google it up. These worm Infestations can be passed onto humans...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Rice looking worms are actually pin worms and are the easiest to get rid of. Children often times also have them. When you get itchy rectums at night it comes from the worms crawling out and trying to get back in. Tape worms are flat in shape almost a ribbon type look to them. Jenny Kernan --- Renee <gaiacita wrote: > Good info. A few years back I took a stool sample > into the vet to check for > worms and though I forget now what type he said they > were, he said " oh, it's > very common for cats to have these worms. It comes > from drinking stale water > that sits in the bottom of potted plants " and sold > me some pills. These > worms look like the same type as before, and he > didn't call them tape worms > I remember that much. I have been looking for a worm > in a stool sample so I > can take it in to be checked, but haven't found one > yet--though I have seen > those > on the but of one cat. And I figure if one has it, > they all do, and probably > the dogs, and us. So we will all have to go on a > regime. The dogs and us > will be much easier but you know how fussy cats are. > So I suppose the > stronger vet pills would be better just to get a > handle on this and then put > a preventative measure into action. > > Thanks > Renee > > ---- > > Renee - Those white 'rice' are tape worm eggs. That > will mean that your > Cats are infested! Yes, and can be passed to dogs IF > they ingest via/through > a > Substance I.e. Infected feces (eating it), infected > food link > (mouse/rat/rabbit etc). To pass on has to be > ingested via another organism. > > OK. Don't fool with this. Get thee to the vet and > get the whole bunch of > Em treated pdq. AFTER treatment then can try for > control via homeopathic > Methods but for this infestation treat by alopathy, > and do it quickly, like > Pronto. > > Tape worms are no good for the animal. They attach > to the lining of the gut > And multiply. They pull the animal down, which in > turn can/will lead to > Other ills. Totally unfair to the animal and not > good, loving, animal > keeping. > A tape worm can grow to several feet long - google > it up. These worm > Infestations can be passed onto humans...! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Pin worms. That's what the vet called them!! Thanks. Samala, Renee ---- Rice looking worms are actually pin worms and are the Easiest to get rid of. Children often times also have Them. When you get itchy rectums at night it comes From the worms crawling out and trying to get back in. Tape worms are flat in shape almost a ribbon type look To them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi there ! You can try homoeo medicine Cina - 200c - 3 drops in the mouth in empty stomach for 10 days. You don't have to think of the problem. Dr Subrata Das : breffneigh7: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:33:50 -0400Re: Worms - homeopathic remedy (refers) Renee writes:Hi. I have several cats and I suspect they all have worms. I have seen thelittle white rice looking worms on the but of one of the cats, and I'massuming if one has worms they all do. And as I have dogs, I wonder if thedogs can have the same type of worms? I haven't seen any in the dog's poop,but I have in the cat litter box.So, is there a safe, homeopathic remedy for this type of worm? Or worms ingeneral? I know I can use fresh ground pumpkin seed in the food for my dogsbut some of my cats are too finicky and won't eat their food if it has thepumpkin seeds in it.Renee - Those white 'rice' are tape worm eggs. That will mean that your cats are infested! Yes, and can be passed to dogs IF they ingest via/through a substance i.e. infected feces (eating it), infected food link (mouse/rat/rabbit etc). To pass on has to be ingested via another organism.OK. Don't fool with this. Get thee to the vet and get the whole bunch of em treated pdq. AFTER treatment then can try for control via homeopathic methods but for this infestation treat by alopathy, and do it quickly, like pronto.Tape worms are no good for the animal. They attach to the lining of the gut and multiply. They pull the animal down, which in turn can/will lead to other ills. Totally unfair to the animal and not good, loving, animal keeping. A tape worm can grow to several feet long - google it up. These worm infestations can be passed onto humans...!In addition, round worms, which infest dogs and cats (both, though slightly different types of round specis to each: Toxocara canis and Toxascaris; Toxocara cati and Toxascaris) are highly dangerous to humans. Please note, that I am referring to round worms here - the larvae can be passed through infected animal, infected play area...! An infection can lead to embryonic worm infestation in the liver, heart, lungs, gut and eyes. Blindness in children is often caused by the embryonic round worm. In the human, the worm does not develop to adult, but the egg/grub/embryo, burrows into the tissue and thereafter leads to the problems! Cats and dogs MUST be wormed on a regular basis. Worming is easy and gets rid of the worms - worming medication should be bought from your vet, Drontal is good. Those worming meds bought over the counter are NOT good. They only get rid of the adult worm and not the larvae, embryonic worm. You need to get rid of the whole bang shoot of em, adult and larvae: only drontal (or similar) does that. So don't go the cheapo route, please. ANY faeces should be picked up and BURNT. Do NOT bury dog/cat faeces, ever. By the way, infected faeces can remain infective, viable, in the ground for more than THREE years. Most people are totally unaware of these problems.Always wash hands and do not kiss dogs and cats - their noses and tongues clean their bums...!! Stroke, pat, hug, do not kiss. Wash hands. Pick up and BURN faeces. Hope this has clarified the worm, tape and round species.Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 , Jenny Kernan <rainysnana wrote: > > Rice looking worms are actually pin worms and are the > easiest to get rid of. Missed this post Jenny. Yes, adult tapes are flat, just like pieces of tape but, the eggs, are exactly like to grains of rice. Check out the info sites I posted. Have seen these grains. Had an infestation here. Was horrible. Cat had em crawling out of her, were flat, like pieces of tape. Dog had the grains of rice in her poops. Her poops then started to throw out more eggs, was vile. Collected everything poop wise and took to the vet for 'immediate' incineration. Best way to control em not getting into anything else, like mice etc out in the field! (I always take the faeces to the special bins for disposal, where they are collected for incineration.) The infestation happened cause the cat would hunt for rabbits...bring em home for everyone in the house! Dog thought this wonderful. Well, we ended up with heavily infected/infested animals. Sigh. Might have guessed - worms are one of my nightmares! Pin worms you refer to are in reality thread worms, about an inch long. Children very often pick em up, highly contageous. Insist kiddoes Wash Hands. Pin worms as such infect horses. (That's my take on it all - had to investigate this all out once. Dealing with animals, horses, dogs, cats and small furries generally means dealing with worms...yuck <smile>) Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Ingesting fleas during the grooming process is one of the most common ways that pets get tape worms. The cyst stage of the tape worm is in flea and once ingested the worm develops in the pet's digestive tract. Richard Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth. ---Pema Chödrön Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 My appologies but I HAD to jump in on this one I grew up on a farm. We tried every herbal remedy you can think of to treat worms. Some worms respond to this in hatched form, most egg sacks simply do not. It is best to go to the vet However, if you simply can't do that, then go to your local Vet Supply or Feed Store However, DO NOT GIVE YOUR ANIMAL IVERMECTIN if it hasn't been on regular heartworm treatment... Ivermectin kills pre-adult heartworm and a whole bunch of other parasites... and your animal will be VERY SICK if you give them Ivermectin when they are infected with Adult Heartworm... So... if you have been to the vet within the last year to 6 months & have stayed regular on heartworm treatment, then you can do this... in addition, you can swap the expensive heartworm treatment (also made from Ivermectin) to straight Ivermectin... a few exceptions are dogs that are collies, if they are already on HeartGuard & don't have siezures, then they are fine to swap. IF they aren't then PLEASE TALK TO YOUR VET FIRST Ivermectin: In the mid-1980's, ivermectin was introduced as probably the most broad-spectrum anti-parasite medication ever. It is effective against most common intestinal worms (except tapeworms), most mites, and some lice. It is not effective against fleas, ticks, flies, or flukes. It is effective against larval heartworms (the " microfilariae " that circulate in the blood) but not against adult heartworms (that live in the heart and pulmonary arteries). The most common uses in small animal practice for ivermectin would include: Monthly prevention of heartworm infection Treatment of ear mite situations Clearing heartworm larvae in active heartworm infection Treatment of sarcoptic, notoedric or demodectic mange It should be noted that doses of ivermectin used for prevention and treatment of heartworm disease are approximately 50 times lower than doses used for other parasites Then for tapeworm: Praziquantel BRAND NAME: DRONCIT Available as injectable & 23 mg tablets for cats or 34 mg tablets for dogs HOW THIS MEDICATION IS USED Praziquantel is primarily used against parasites known as Cestodes (tapeworms). The common tapeworm of dogs and cats, Dipylidium caninum, is the usual target though praziquantel is also effective against less common types of tapeworms such as Taenia species and the more dangerous Mesocestoides species. Praziquantel is also effective against flukes. A single treatment of praziquantel should clear a Dipylidium caninum infection though a second treatment is sometimes recommended if it is felt that immediate reinfection is likely. Immediate reinfection might take place if the pet's environment has a heavy uncontrolled flea problem. >>>>>>>>>>.. IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT that you go thru your yard, locate feces. DO NOT TOUCH IT, use a shovel & wear gloves with long- sleeve shirt... DESTROY FECES by Burning it!!!! <<<<<<< There are small children that have been infected by tapeworm. While this is rare, there was a recent removal of a fully adult tapeworm from the intestine of a 2 month old baby.... Tapeworms look like grains of rice in the stool. That is actually a tape-worm egg packet. Tapeworm eggs mature into Fleas. Fleas get on your animal Animal chews at itch & swallows the flea Animal gets tapeworm a tapeworm is an alternative life-cycle for a flea larvea Similar to a heart-worm being an alternative life-cycle for a mosquito larvea It is possible, but HIGHLY unlikely that this infestation is PinWorms... in the thousands of animals I have handled in my life, it is RARE, really Rare to see PinWorms unless you are dealing with Horses, Cattle, Rabbits, Pigs, Rodents. I honestly can't even recall a single case of Pinworm (threadworm, Syphacia worms, Enterobius worms) in any dog. We have only owned @ 10 cats, none of the cats ever got them & I have not heard of cats having them... I suppose just a human could rarely have a tapeworm, so could a dog or cat rarely have a pinworm... especially if that animal ate rodents. Although our dogs regularly ate wild rabbits..... Pinworm infection (in humans) is a large intestine infection caused by a small, white worm called a pinworm, seatworm, or threadworm. The medical name for the pinworm is Enterobius vermicularis, also called a helminth. The pinworm is about the length of a staple. It lives for the most part within the rectum of humans. While an infected person is asleep, female pinworms leave the intestines through the anus and deposit eggs on the skin around the anus. Because pinworm infection is caused by Enterobius vermicularis, the infection is also called enterobiasis (or helminthiasis). I also found this: Hosts -- Humans are the only common host of E. vermicularis. Dogs and cats are not hosts of pin worm. Other species of pinworm infect horses, mules, zebra, sheep, goat, antelope, rabbits, rodents, elephant, and primates. Distribution -- Pin worm infections are common in humans throughout the world, but survive best in the temperate zones. Life Cycle -- The adult worms feed on the mucosa of the large intestine. When females are fully gravid they migrate from the anus and deposit fully embryonated eggs in the perianal region. These eggs are the infective stage and when ingested by man pass through the stomach to the duodenum where they hatch. The immature worms remain in the small intestine undergoing 2 molts. On becoming adults they migrate to the large intestine where the females attach to the mucosa until they are fully gravid. A single female may contain up to 20,000 fully embryonated eggs (eggs with fully developed juveniles); the average is about 10,000. --- so with that as evidence, I am going to conclude that the likelyhood of this being a pinworm infestation is HIGHLY UNLIKELY and almost certainly you are dealing with TapeWorms. Get some Droncit!!!! Rid the area of all feces Put down Borax in your yard for flea control Put Borax/Salt mix in any carpeted area in your home... wait 72 hours & vacume, then repeat, repeat, repeat Also, consider a flea-treatment for all animals...... Angela , subrata das <subratadashomoeo wrote: > > > Hi there ! > > You can try homoeo medicine Cina - 200c - 3 drops in the mouth in empty stomach for 10 days. You don't have to think of the problem. > > Dr Subrata Das > > > : breffneigh7: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:33:50 -0400Re: Worms - homeopathic remedy (refers) > > > > > Renee writes:Hi. I have several cats and I suspect they all have worms. I have seen thelittle white rice looking worms on the but of one of the cats, and I'massuming if one has worms they all do. And as I have dogs, I wonder if thedogs can have the same type of worms? I haven't seen any in the dog's poop,but I have in the cat litter box.So, is there a safe, homeopathic remedy for this type of worm? Or worms ingeneral? I know I can use fresh ground pumpkin seed in the food for my dogsbut some of my cats are too finicky and won't eat their food if it has thepumpkin seeds in it.Renee - Those white 'rice' are tape worm eggs. That will mean that your cats are infested! Yes, and can be passed to dogs IF they ingest via/through a substance i.e. infected feces (eating it), infected food link (mouse/rat/rabbit etc). To pass on has to be ingested via another organism.OK. Don't fool with this. Get thee to the vet and get the whole bunch of em treated pdq. AFTER treatment then can try for control via homeopathic methods but for this infestation treat by alopathy, and do it quickly, like pronto.Tape worms are no good for the animal. They attach to the lining of the gut and multiply. They pull the animal down, which in turn can/will lead to other ills. Totally unfair to the animal and not good, loving, animal keeping. A tape worm can grow to several feet long - google it up. These worm infestations can be passed onto humans...!In addition, round worms, which infest dogs and cats (both, though slightly different types of round specis to each: Toxocara canis and Toxascaris; Toxocara cati and Toxascaris) are highly dangerous to humans. Please note, that I am referring to round worms here - the larvae can be passed through infected animal, infected play area...! An infection can lead to embryonic worm infestation in the liver, heart, lungs, gut and eyes. Blindness in children is often caused by the embryonic round worm. In the human, the worm does not develop to adult, but the egg/grub/embryo, burrows into the tissue and thereafter leads to the problems! Cats and dogs MUST be wormed on a regular basis. Worming is easy and gets rid of the worms - worming medication should be bought from your vet, Drontal is good. Those worming meds bought over the counter are NOT good. They only get rid of the adult worm and not the larvae, embryonic worm. You need to get rid of the whole bang shoot of em, adult and larvae: only drontal (or similar) does that. So don't go the cheapo route, please. ANY faeces should be picked up and BURNT. Do NOT bury dog/cat faeces, ever. By the way, infected faeces can remain infective, viable, in the ground for more than THREE years. Most people are totally unaware of these problems.Always wash hands and do not kiss dogs and cats - their noses and tongues clean their bums...!! Stroke, pat, hug, do not kiss. Wash hands. Pick up and BURN faeces. Hope this has clarified the worm, tape and round species.Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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