AIDS and Avian Flu, Plagues, Made in America?

[Guest guest]

S

Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:10:56 -0700 (PDT)

MUST READ message re Avian Flu and Flu

Mist vaccine

 

 

 

 

 

PRESS RELEASE

AIDS and Avian Flu,

Plagues, Made in America?

Researchers and scientists recommend an emergency restraining order on

MedImmune Vaccines, Inc., FLU MIST

 

According to researcher team, Dr. Mark and David Geier, the current

flu vaccines are not only ineffective against the expected Avian Bird

Flu pandemic but that " the FDA Approved thimerosal/mercury-free FLU

MIST (MedImmune Vaccines, Inc., Gaithersburg, MD) vaccine may create a

super strain virus plague " , warns Dr. Mark Geier.

 

The well respected research team has already alerted members of the

medical community in Washington, DC recommending that any support for

the FluMist vaccine be withdrawn immediately and a restraining order

be issue to the vaccine manufacturers. The immediate and present

danger lies in the suspicion that the FluMist contains 2 key genetic

sequences needed for efficient human-to-human transmission that the

avian flu is missing.

 

FluMist is a live cold-adapted trivalent nasally administered vaccine,

which is currently being recommended for individuals between the age

of 5 and 49 years. According to the 2005 Physicians Desk Reference

(PDR), the probability of acquiring a transmitted vaccine virus

following close contact with a single FluMist inoculee was estimated

to be 2.4% (95% CI: 0.13-4.6) [31]. Because of the possible

transmission of this vaccine's viruses, vaccine recipients are advised

to avoid close contact with immuno-compromised individuals for at

least 21 days. Additionally, persons with conditions such as human

immunodeficiency virus infection, malignancy, leukaemia, or lymphoma,

and patients who may be immunosuppressed or have altered or

compromised immune status as a consequence of treatment with systemic

corticosteroids, alkylating drugs, antimetabolites, radiation, or

other immunosuppressive therapies, may be at significant risk if

exposed within 21 days to a FluMist vaccine inoculee. Other

individuals who might be at high risk if exposed within 21 days to

FluMist inoculees, include, but are not limited to, adults and

children with chronic disorders of the cardiovascular and pulmonary

systems, including asthma (which up to 25% of today's children seem to

have); pregnant women; and adults and children who required regular

medical follow-up or hospitalization during the preceding year because

of chronic metabolic diseases (including diabetes), renal dysfunction,

or hemoglobinopathies. Additionally, because FluMist contains live

influenza viruses, there is the possibility with the widespread use of

FluMist, that an individual might have a second concurrent viral

infection with another influenza strain (such as the avian bird flu),

with the possibility that the live viruses from the FluMist

recombine/re-assort with the second viral infection to produce a

" super virus. " It is obvious from the extensive list of persons who

might be at risk if exposed to a FluMist vaccine recipient within 21

days of vaccination, along with potential ability of the live

influenza viruses within FluMist to recombine/re-assort with other

viruses, that the continued use of FluMist presents a significant

potential danger to the health and well-being of a wide segment of the

population. This raises major concerns about the wisdom and ethics of

recommending the use of FluMist for use in the general population.

 

Etiology of the Avian bird flu

 

According to Dr. Boyd Graves, who has been marginalized over the years

by " official " government medical communities for speaking up about the

possibility that AIDS was purposefully designed to be a ethnic

specific virulent, genocidal agent, Avian flu pandemic could be

science run amuck. " Amidst the current Centers for Disease Control

media orchestrated public panic over the Avian Flu Pandemic, more and

more scientists are beginning to look at the appearance of these

lethal virulents as being adapted by science, genetically recombined

as biowarfare agents, made in America, " says Graves.

 

The historical trail traces itself back to the 1843 discovery of the

infectious agent (MYCOPLASMA) for the " SPOTTED LEAF DISEASE " , also

known as the " TOBACCO MOSAIC VIRUS. " " At the core of human (cancer)

disease " , says Graves, is this `mycoplasma' entity that has been

weaponized over time realizing lethal and incapacitating conditions

for humanity " .

 

" The development of the mycoplasma from plant to animal to human is

clear " , asserts Graves. " By 1898 the United States had realized the

mycoplasma in cows, bovine spongiform encephalitis (BSE). By 1902,

they had realized it in horses, equine infectious anemia virua (EIAV),

in 1904, they realized it in goats, caprine arthritic encephalitis

virus (CAEV). By 1910, they had realized it in fowl, Rous Sarcoma

Virus (RSV) " , reports Graves after years and years of committed

research into the subject.

 

According to page 14 – 15 of the 1978 progress report of the U.S.

Special Virus program, the 1910 RSV is a product of recombinant

genetics. Further review will show the 1918 Spanish Flu was a

recombinant bird virus. " The same is true of the 2005 Avian flu',

comments Graves.

 

Is " recombinant " a natural occurrence in Nature or man made or both?

 

In 1918, the pandemic began not in a port city of this country, but in

the Midwest. Tom Rogers, a whistleblower, working in the field of

virology in the 1990s explains that the scientists who are " in the

know " look towards the mid west, in specific, Missouri, to read the

pulse of bird carrying plagues. " Birds from Asia and Europe converge

at this spot due to the convergence of the Mississippi, Ohio and

Missouri river. Various viruses recombine organically " , says Rogers.

Rogers tells the story about the Missouri birthplace of the USA born

deadly Flu of 1918 claiming that it was purposefully misnamed " Spanish

Flu " as a distraction. He tells how A.J. Cohen, a veterinarian in

Missouri in 1918 warned meat packers and distributors that a super

virus was killing off pullets and piglets. However, Cohen was not only

disregarded but his life was threatened by industry. " These meats were

sent throughout the nation and ultimately over seas " , claims Rogers.

American soldiers were exposed first to the recombinant and their war

travels spread the virus to wherever they went. In fact, more soldiers

died from the Spanish Flu than those who died in World War I. Rogers

claim is that there is no such thing as " jumping species " as might

have been designed and refined by biotechnology techniques as claimed

by Dr. Boyd Graves and Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a popular lecturer on the

subject and author of AID, EBOLA and other viruses. Rogers claims that

the virus passes amongst species due to " wrapping your lips " around

it, as he likes to phrase it. As a result of his research into the

etiology of non specific species transferred plagues Rogers is now a

deeply committed Vegan…that is no meat, no milk. He says the only way

you can get the Avian Flu is by " eating " the infected species, or via

fluid exchange, like blood transfers, sex, and close saliva contacts,

like in AIDS.

 

Although one can usually find an originating template for bacteria,

viruses and drugs in nature, Dr. Boyd Graves claims that US government

purposefully brought these lethal viruses to a dangerous new level

through biotechnology and laboratory recombinant technologies

 

When the United States began the Tuskegee syphilis experiments in

1932, they also began the testing of the infectious agent of HIV, the

sheep virus VISNA. HIV contains sequences from a 1932 strain of VISNA,

strain ks1514. However, in the 1971 progress report (#8) of the U.S.

Special Virus program (1971), the United States concedes that VISNA

had not yet been associated with human disease.

 

The United States cannot explain how VISNA is the " etiological agent "

of HIV, as they report in 1985, 1986 and 1995. See, Science Vol 227,

pp. 173 – 7, January, 1985, see also, PROC NAS Vol 83, pp.4007 – 11,

June 1986 and PROC NAS Vol 92, pp. 3283 – 87, April 11, 1995.

 

" I believe we can have a much better understanding of medicine and

science if we review the U.S. Laboratory of Hygiene (circa 1878), the

1902 Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, the 1904 Station for Experimental

Evolution and the 1926 MIT " Virus Cancer " Conference " , says Graves. In

addition, the May 1946 Appropriations Hearing addresses a `synthetic

biological agent' in " useable shape " . " This is the recognition of the

VISNA agent, which now wreaks havoc across the biomedical world " ,

comments Graves. Dr. Boyd Graves is certain, that if we review and

investigate the U.S. Special Virus program, we will solve not only HIV

and AIDS, but we will answer many of the unknown origins of human

disease. www.boydgraves.com

 

Meanwhile, Dannemann, director of the National Coalition of

Organized women spearheading the collection of the various data

wonders if the US government has been recently testing their virus

collection on the greyhound dogs…hence the new canine flu epidemic

causing CDC concerns about it " jumping species " and infecting humans.

Tom Rogers would say don't kiss your dog. Dr. Boyd Graves and Dr. Len

Horowitz would say…just another covert clinical trial. Dr. Mark and

David Geier would say, in any case take Tamaflu, a prescriptive drug

that biomedically short circuits the progression of flu disease.

" Unfortunately, Dannemann concludes, " Congress is so invested in

spending millions of dollars stockpiling ineffective vaccines, there

is no room at the CDC Inn for Tamaflu, a proven product that may save

millions of lives. Perhaps the CDC doesn't share patent royalties on

Tamaflu " , she sighs. " But in any case, I am a Vegan " , she winks as she

dabs biblical " essential oils " in her ears.

 

Dannemann, National Coalition of Organized Women

www.ProgressiveConvergence.com

www.SlavetotheMetal.org

917 804-0786

[Guest guest]

I am reponding to the post below, which I feel is both

important and which illustrates something which I have had to

repeatedly come to grips with over the years as I have studied in the

field of alternative medicine.

 

In the article below, some serious allegations are made in the

initial 3 paragraphs. I do not doubt the logic. The allegations

hold together, imo. So, looking at the initial paragraphs, I am

strongly inclined to agree that Flu Mist should be stopped (legally)

from being deployed. In reading the initial paragraphs, the material

which presents a probable genesis of the 1918 pandemic comes to mind.

[see my post here.]

 

Then, when we get further into the article, I see that the

article begins talking about other things entirely. The article's

author starts talking about other scientists, not the ones who put out

the allegations in the initial paragraph. [i put in a separator bar

of ++++++ to indicate the shift in the press release.] I examined

the claims made in the latter portion of the press release. To me,

those claims do not have nearly the solid footing of the initial

warning. In fact, from what I have gleaned elsewhere, I feel the

author is being paranoid in ascribing human creation & malicious

motive to some of them.

 

Now, I freely admit that the medical people have done

horrendous things in the past (like the Tuskegee syphilis

experiments), and I sure do not question that there are certainly

people connected with the government deeply committed to bio-warfare.

However, I have not seen, for instance, any evidence for claims that

HIV was bio-engineered as a genocidal tool. It could be. I would

not put it past certain individuals, but what I have seen in this area

is pure speculation passing itself off as demonstrable proof.

 

I also feel that in the last paragraph where tamaflu is

mentioned is just plain wrong. Tamaflu is just barking up the wrong

tree. And the tone of the last paragraph is like the author is trying

to show that Dannemann is a kook.

 

The below text is marked as a press release. But it is not,

imo. The first portion is a press release. The rest seems to have

been added on. Now, was it added on by a well-meaning person or

group who wanted to give background info into the much larger problem?

Or was that material appended to the press release with the specific

purpose of discrediting the press release and its authors. Hard for

me to figure out.

 

Irregardless of the motives of the person or persons who

appended on the latter portions of the press release, readers are left

with a quandary. While the initial press release is alarming, it

does not surprise me. Nor does it send out alarm bells about the

validity of the warning itself, or the people giving that warning.

The latter portion of the press release makes me want to just chuck

out the whole thing & dismiss it. But this would be un-fair. And

it plays right into the hands of those who want to brand everyone

against vaccinations as being a kook.

 

So, I have found it best to examine carefully, rather than

skim, allegations made by members of the Alternative Health community.

Truth and useful information are oft found in the company of

material which appears to be dubious, at best.

 

Alobar

 

On 10/11/05, califpacific <califpacific wrote:

> S

> Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:10:56 -0700 (PDT)

> MUST READ message re Avian Flu and Flu

> Mist vaccine

>

>

>

>

>

> PRESS RELEASE

> AIDS and Avian Flu,

> Plagues, Made in America?

> Researchers and scientists recommend an emergency restraining order on

> MedImmune Vaccines, Inc., FLU MIST

>

> According to researcher team, Dr. Mark and David Geier, the current

> flu vaccines are not only ineffective against the expected Avian Bird

> Flu pandemic but that " the FDA Approved thimerosal/mercury-free FLU

> MIST (MedImmune Vaccines, Inc., Gaithersburg, MD) vaccine may create a

> super strain virus plague " , warns Dr. Mark Geier.

>

> The well respected research team has already alerted members of the

> medical community in Washington, DC recommending that any support for

> the FluMist vaccine be withdrawn immediately and a restraining order

> be issue to the vaccine manufacturers. The immediate and present

> danger lies in the suspicion that the FluMist contains 2 key genetic

> sequences needed for efficient human-to-human transmission that the

> avian flu is missing.

>

> FluMist is a live cold-adapted trivalent nasally administered vaccine,

> which is currently being recommended for individuals between the age

> of 5 and 49 years. According to the 2005 Physicians Desk Reference

> (PDR), the probability of acquiring a transmitted vaccine virus

> following close contact with a single FluMist inoculee was estimated

> to be 2.4% (95% CI: 0.13-4.6) [31]. Because of the possible

> transmission of this vaccine's viruses, vaccine recipients are advised

> to avoid close contact with immuno-compromised individuals for at

> least 21 days. Additionally, persons with conditions such as human

> immunodeficiency virus infection, malignancy, leukaemia, or lymphoma,

> and patients who may be immunosuppressed or have altered or

> compromised immune status as a consequence of treatment with systemic

> corticosteroids, alkylating drugs, antimetabolites, radiation, or

> other immunosuppressive therapies, may be at significant risk if

> exposed within 21 days to a FluMist vaccine inoculee. Other

> individuals who might be at high risk if exposed within 21 days to

> FluMist inoculees, include, but are not limited to, adults and

> children with chronic disorders of the cardiovascular and pulmonary

> systems, including asthma (which up to 25% of today's children seem to

> have); pregnant women; and adults and children who required regular

> medical follow-up or hospitalization during the preceding year because

> of chronic metabolic diseases (including diabetes), renal dysfunction,

> or hemoglobinopathies. Additionally, because FluMist contains live

> influenza viruses, there is the possibility with the widespread use of

> FluMist, that an individual might have a second concurrent viral

> infection with another influenza strain (such as the avian bird flu),

> with the possibility that the live viruses from the FluMist

> recombine/re-assort with the second viral infection to produce a

> " super virus. " It is obvious from the extensive list of persons who

> might be at risk if exposed to a FluMist vaccine recipient within 21

> days of vaccination, along with potential ability of the live

> influenza viruses within FluMist to recombine/re-assort with other

> viruses, that the continued use of FluMist presents a significant

> potential danger to the health and well-being of a wide segment of the

> population. This raises major concerns about the wisdom and ethics of

> recommending the use of FluMist for use in the general population.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[separator row, above, done by me, Alobar. Not in original.]

 

> Etiology of the Avian bird flu

>

> According to Dr. Boyd Graves, who has been marginalized over the years

> by " official " government medical communities for speaking up about the

> possibility that AIDS was purposefully designed to be a ethnic

> specific virulent, genocidal agent, Avian flu pandemic could be

> science run amuck. " Amidst the current Centers for Disease Control

> media orchestrated public panic over the Avian Flu Pandemic, more and

> more scientists are beginning to look at the appearance of these

> lethal virulents as being adapted by science, genetically recombined

> as biowarfare agents, made in America, " says Graves.

>

> The historical trail traces itself back to the 1843 discovery of the

> infectious agent (MYCOPLASMA) for the " SPOTTED LEAF DISEASE " , also

> known as the " TOBACCO MOSAIC VIRUS. " " At the core of human (cancer)

> disease " , says Graves, is this `mycoplasma' entity that has been

> weaponized over time realizing lethal and incapacitating conditions

> for humanity " .

>

> " The development of the mycoplasma from plant to animal to human is

> clear " , asserts Graves. " By 1898 the United States had realized the

> mycoplasma in cows, bovine spongiform encephalitis (BSE). By 1902,

> they had realized it in horses, equine infectious anemia virua (EIAV),

> in 1904, they realized it in goats, caprine arthritic encephalitis

> virus (CAEV). By 1910, they had realized it in fowl, Rous Sarcoma

> Virus (RSV) " , reports Graves after years and years of committed

> research into the subject.

>

> According to page 14 – 15 of the 1978 progress report of the U.S.

> Special Virus program, the 1910 RSV is a product of recombinant

> genetics. Further review will show the 1918 Spanish Flu was a

> recombinant bird virus. " The same is true of the 2005 Avian flu',

> comments Graves.

>

> Is " recombinant " a natural occurrence in Nature or man made or both?

>

> In 1918, the pandemic began not in a port city of this country, but in

> the Midwest. Tom Rogers, a whistleblower, working in the field of

> virology in the 1990s explains that the scientists who are " in the

> know " look towards the mid west, in specific, Missouri, to read the

> pulse of bird carrying plagues. " Birds from Asia and Europe converge

> at this spot due to the convergence of the Mississippi, Ohio and

> Missouri river. Various viruses recombine organically " , says Rogers.

> Rogers tells the story about the Missouri birthplace of the USA born

> deadly Flu of 1918 claiming that it was purposefully misnamed " Spanish

> Flu " as a distraction. He tells how A.J. Cohen, a veterinarian in

> Missouri in 1918 warned meat packers and distributors that a super

> virus was killing off pullets and piglets. However, Cohen was not only

> disregarded but his life was threatened by industry. " These meats were

> sent throughout the nation and ultimately over seas " , claims Rogers.

> American soldiers were exposed first to the recombinant and their war

> travels spread the virus to wherever they went. In fact, more soldiers

> died from the Spanish Flu than those who died in World War I. Rogers

> claim is that there is no such thing as " jumping species " as might

> have been designed and refined by biotechnology techniques as claimed

> by Dr. Boyd Graves and Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a popular lecturer on the

> subject and author of AID, EBOLA and other viruses. Rogers claims that

> the virus passes amongst species due to " wrapping your lips " around

> it, as he likes to phrase it. As a result of his research into the

> etiology of non specific species transferred plagues Rogers is now a

> deeply committed Vegan…that is no meat, no milk. He says the only way

> you can get the Avian Flu is by " eating " the infected species, or via

> fluid exchange, like blood transfers, sex, and close saliva contacts,

> like in AIDS.

>

> Although one can usually find an originating template for bacteria,

> viruses and drugs in nature, Dr. Boyd Graves claims that US government

> purposefully brought these lethal viruses to a dangerous new level

> through biotechnology and laboratory recombinant technologies

>

> When the United States began the Tuskegee syphilis experiments in

> 1932, they also began the testing of the infectious agent of HIV, the

> sheep virus VISNA. HIV contains sequences from a 1932 strain of VISNA,

> strain ks1514. However, in the 1971 progress report (#8) of the U.S.

> Special Virus program (1971), the United States concedes that VISNA

> had not yet been associated with human disease.

>

> The United States cannot explain how VISNA is the " etiological agent "

> of HIV, as they report in 1985, 1986 and 1995. See, Science Vol 227,

> pp. 173 – 7, January, 1985, see also, PROC NAS Vol 83, pp.4007 – 11,

> June 1986 and PROC NAS Vol 92, pp. 3283 – 87, April 11, 1995.

>

> " I believe we can have a much better understanding of medicine and

> science if we review the U.S. Laboratory of Hygiene (circa 1878), the

> 1902 Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, the 1904 Station for Experimental

> Evolution and the 1926 MIT " Virus Cancer " Conference " , says Graves. In

> addition, the May 1946 Appropriations Hearing addresses a `synthetic

> biological agent' in " useable shape " . " This is the recognition of the

> VISNA agent, which now wreaks havoc across the biomedical world " ,

> comments Graves. Dr. Boyd Graves is certain, that if we review and

> investigate the U.S. Special Virus program, we will solve not only HIV

> and AIDS, but we will answer many of the unknown origins of human

> disease. www.boydgraves.com

>

> Meanwhile, Dannemann, director of the National Coalition of

> Organized women spearheading the collection of the various data

> wonders if the US government has been recently testing their virus

> collection on the greyhound dogs…hence the new canine flu epidemic

> causing CDC concerns about it " jumping species " and infecting humans.

> Tom Rogers would say don't kiss your dog. Dr. Boyd Graves and Dr. Len

> Horowitz would say…just another covert clinical trial. Dr. Mark and

> David Geier would say, in any case take Tamaflu, a prescriptive drug

> that biomedically short circuits the progression of flu disease.

> " Unfortunately, Dannemann concludes, " Congress is so invested in

> spending millions of dollars stockpiling ineffective vaccines, there

> is no room at the CDC Inn for Tamaflu, a proven product that may save

> millions of lives. Perhaps the CDC doesn't share patent royalties on

> Tamaflu " , she sighs. " But in any case, I am a Vegan " , she winks as she

> dabs biblical " essential oils " in her ears.

>

> Dannemann

> Director, National Coalition of Organized Women

> www.ProgressiveConvergence.com

> www.SlavetotheMetal.org

> 917 804-0786

>

>