restless legs cure, reflux, and infertility help??

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

I have been a sufferer of restless legs since the mid 80s. I am in my 40s.

It is now to the point that it is a nightly affliction and has been so for

years and has progressed to the point that my toes even curl in response to

the nerves " doing their thing " . drugs in the past only helped for a while.

 

I have tried seemingly every thing for the restless legs including juicing,

potassium supplements, calcium supplements, going off meat, green tea, and

now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs calcium). When I

took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium, my bones hurt...I did this

three times and therefore know it to be true. Further, calcium dominance

gives me throat burn secondary to reflux (which I get also with magnesium being

dominant, but worse if calcium is).

 

Regarding the reflux, I have taken ranitidine in the past with no success.

I want to treat this naturally...any suggestions?

 

And while I am asking for help...I recently had a tubal reversal

done...yes..at my age. Are there any suggestions for increasing fertiilty at

my age

when it is stastically low to begin with. I read lots on the net, but it is

confusing as what one person suggest, another says is not safe or

contraindicated for a variety of reasons.

 

so to reiterate, I am asking for suggestions on three things: 1) restless

leg syndrome, 2)reflux, and 3) what to do to increase fertility for one over 40

who recently had a tubal ligation reversal.

 

Thanks to all who stayed with me thus far and thanks in advance for any help.

 

Lynn

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn

 

 

 

1) You may not be taking an absorbable form of calcium. Calcium

Orotate is the most absorbable form. All the brands that I have seen have

magnesium included, although you may want to take some additional magnesium

which I would recommend the orotate form of that also. I would suggest 2

tablets 3x times daily of the calcium orotate. Also make sure that you are

getting enough Vitamin D. Sunshine is the safest way. 30 minutes/day on as

much of the body as possible. Get off grocery store dairy, especially milk

as it actually leeches calcium. Begin taking cod liver oil---Carlson's is

probably the best out there. Take 2 tablespoons daily.

 

2) Get some plant based enzymes and take two 15 minutes before each

meal and two before bedtime. Everyone over the age of 35 is short on

digestive enzymes. Also try HCL. Take one right before eating. If the HCL

seems to make things worse then stop taking them, but for most people they

help tremendously. Eat organic garlic (2-3 cloves) every day-pill form is

usually worthless. Also get a good probiotic to take.

 

3) Fertility - natural progesterone cream (make sure that there are no

herbs that could be contraindicated in pregnancy or that cause uterine

contractions). Natural progesterone cream (not synthetic) will help to

balance your hormones and help to sustain a pregnancy. Do not stop it once

you are pregnant. Keep taking it through the fourth month. Get on a

healthy diet, drink lots of pure clean water, lose weight if needed. Get off

dairy and sugar. If you have never done a liver/gallbladder/digestive tract

cleanse then do that first. The liver has a lot to do with the hormonal

system. Get plenty of sleep. Do not eat soy products unless they are

fermented. Learn ways to relieve stress through meditation, walking, good

music, warm baths, good reading, aromatherapy using good quality essential

oils.

 

 

 

Hope this helps. Good wishes for a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby!

 

 

 

Take Care & Be Well,

 

Loretta

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of

Batzion04

Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:31 AM

 

restless legs cure, reflux, and

infertility help??

 

 

so to reiterate, I am asking for suggestions on three things: 1) restless

leg syndrome, 2)reflux, and 3) what to do to increase fertility for one over

40

who recently had a tubal ligation reversal.

 

Thanks to all who stayed with me thus far and thanks in advance for any

help.

 

Lynn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Lynn,

 

I really do not see how it would be possible, in an email, to tell you all that

you would need to know even about one of these questions let alone all three.

 

Let's take the restless legs thing first.

 

It seems that you are not trying to find out the cause of it but to

just ask for suggestions to try different random things.

 

Here are some of my thoughts in that it might be caused, among other

things, by a toxic injury damage to the brain/nerves. Could be from prior

medications, or some other source within your environment. Healing would require

that you take sufficient nutrients over time necessary to heal.

 

The symptoms might be due to some yeast/fungal infection that could be

continually producing toxic poisons within your body.

 

 

It might also be caused by some extreme deficiency/imbalance of a nutrient.

 

 

 

If it is a nutrient deficiency. It is necessary to try some nutrients

to see if it makes the condition worse or better. To do that you

cannot take two nutrients together and ever expect to determine what

is causing what.

 

Also, if you ever expect to figure it out which nutrient you might

need rather than just try random things that people might suggest, it

will require you to understand which nutrient does what. I think that

you should read everything you can about basic information about

nutrients.

 

 

Calcium and Magnesium, as many other things do, act in the body to

balance one another. So, when we get too much of one, it will cause an

imbalance/deficiency of the other. So taking both together nulifies

any attempt to correct any imbalance.

 

I do not know if you are magnesium deficient or not, but since most

people are, the odds are in favor of that over being deficient in

calcium. If it were me, I would see if magnesium would correct any of my

symptoms, I would take a piece of a magnesium tablet and let it

disolve in my mouth ( to get an immediate response). If it makes me

feel better then I would try some more. If the first amount didn't make me feel

any different I would try a little more (within reason) until I either feel

better or worse. If it made me feel better then I might indicate that I was

magnesium deficient and to take extra magnesium only, but certainly not in

combination with any calcium.

 

In my hypothetical situation, I also could be deficient, and probably

am deficint in other nutrients too. so one alone probably will not be

the whole answer but it may be part of the answer.

 

Just as a random suggestion, I would also try the piece of tablet test

at a later different time with some other nutrients like zinc which is

another one of those that are deficient and very common in most people. When I

might be having some severe leg symptoms, I might put a few zinc throat/cold

lozenges and let them disolve into my mouth and see if it helps alleviate some

of my symptoms. If it does, I need to correct the imbalance.

 

Most all of this kind of self testing is going to have to be done

solely by you. It will require you to really learn about

vitamins/minerals/amino acids/fats-fatty acids. It will require you to

also learn about yourself.

 

It is very difficult sometimes to do standard blood tests for this

kind of information, as an example only 1% of the magnesium in your body is

present in the blood, so blood is not a very good indicator of any overall level

or deficiency of magnesium.

 

Hair if it hasn't been chemically altered is sometimes used to see

what mineral deficiencies a person had in the past (when that part of

the hair shaft was produced). That can be used as a possible indicator of

probable present deficiencies.

 

So you see, in an email I have written quite a bit and still have not

really answered your question as to what to use to correct/heal your

situation.

 

It is too complex to just say, to take this " pill " , and that

should do it, but to really learn about nutrients and learn about what

your body needs will cure many, if not most all things and not just

restless legs. When we give our bodies what they need, our bodies know

exactly how to cure themselves. Giving our bodies what it needs is the

answer. How do we figure that out. We learn or we go to specialists

who have learned. But if we learn, we have (hopefully) that knowledge

forever.

 

Education is the key to all of healing. If we are uneducated about

nutrients, herbs, enzymes, etc. and we try to doctor ourselves without

the necessary knowledge, we have about as much success as any other

endevor which we tried without first learning something about what we

are trying to do. We might make uneducated guesses and we might

accidently hit on the solution but it isn't likely.

 

It sounds like a lot of work but it really isn't. Also look at it this

way. You have been hoping for 20 years that someone else will tell you

the answer to what your body needs. Compared to that, learning about

nutrients, and your own individual biologically unique needs, should

be a piece of cake. It sure beats guessing whether by me, your docter,

or you.

 

kind regards,

 

Frank

 

 

 

, Batzion04@a... wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I have been a sufferer of restless legs since the mid 80s. I am in

my 40s.

> It is now to the point that it is a nightly affliction and has been

so for

> years and has progressed to the point that my toes even curl in

response to

> the nerves " doing their thing " . drugs in the past only helped for a

while.

>

> I have tried seemingly every thing for the restless legs including

juicing,

> potassium supplements, calcium supplements, going off meat, green

tea, and

> now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs

calcium). When I

> took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium, my bones hurt...I

did this

> three times and therefore know it to be true. Further, calcium

dominance

> gives me throat burn secondary to reflux (which I get also with

magnesium being

> dominant, but worse if calcium is).

>

> Regarding the reflux, I have taken ranitidine in the past with no

success.

> I want to treat this naturally...any suggestions?

>

> And while I am asking for help...I recently had a tubal reversal

> done...yes..at my age. Are there any suggestions for increasing

fertiilty at my age

> when it is stastically low to begin with. I read lots on the net,

but it is

> confusing as what one person suggest, another says is not safe or

> contraindicated for a variety of reasons.

>

> so to reiterate, I am asking for suggestions on three things: 1)

restless

> leg syndrome, 2)reflux, and 3) what to do to increase fertility for

one over 40

> who recently had a tubal ligation reversal.

>

> Thanks to all who stayed with me thus far and thanks in advance for

any help.

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please forgive me, as I hold all respect for the moderator here, and

agree with all he has to say. Simply, I had suffered, previouisly,

from both restless leg syndrome and acid reflux. Now I totally agaree

one needs to look at their whole self, their lifestyle, etc., and see

what may not be as functional as once thought. To that I wish to add

what brought me relief. (We can combine the two, me thinks. )

 

Some types of acid reflux are caused by H.Pylori. More yes than no.

Doctors use antibiotics when thats it. However, cayenne in capsules

have freed a person from h.pylori type acid reflux. Tho do take the

time to learn how to take cayenne.

 

With my restless leg syndrome, I just rubbed my legs together like

crazy, and enjoyed it! I did not want to stop! Yet knew 'this isnt

healthy. " So I looked up on the net (alternative health places)

natural solutions for this, and as toched on below, minerals! Calcium

(wtih magnesium) are often the ones first recommended, but even zinc,

etc., help with this. So I just took rainbow lite minerals and pow!

All gone. This may not always be the case, but for me it was.

 

Once there is relief it sometimes makes it easier for us to take on

the austerity of making changes in our lifestyle. Or for some, they

get too comfortable again and return to .... not even examining what

needs changing. All I can say is, first we get a whisper for a

warning of problems, if we ignore then we get something louder, if we

go back to ignoring still, we may get a mountain falling on us!

Personally, I advoate a vegetairan diet for health, but not to get

into politics over that. To each their own.

 

Namaste,

Priitaa

 

 

, " califpacific "

<califpacific@g...> wrote:

>

> Dear Lynn,

>

> I really do not see how it would be possible, in an email, to tell

you all that you would need to know even about one of these questions

let alone all three.

>

> Let's take the restless legs thing first.

>

> It seems that you are not trying to find out the cause of it but to

> just ask for suggestions to try different random things.

>

> Here are some of my thoughts in that it might be caused, among other

> things, by a toxic injury damage to the brain/nerves. Could be from

prior medications, or some other source within your environment.

Healing would require that you take sufficient nutrients over time

necessary to heal.

>

> The symptoms might be due to some yeast/fungal infection that could

be continually producing toxic poisons within your body.

>

>

> It might also be caused by some extreme deficiency/imbalance of a

nutrient.

>

>

>

> If it is a nutrient deficiency. It is necessary to try some

nutrients

> to see if it makes the condition worse or better. To do that you

> cannot take two nutrients together and ever expect to determine what

> is causing what.

>

> Also, if you ever expect to figure it out which nutrient you might

> need rather than just try random things that people might suggest,

it

> will require you to understand which nutrient does what. I think

that

> you should read everything you can about basic information about

> nutrients.

>

>

> Calcium and Magnesium, as many other things do, act in the body to

> balance one another. So, when we get too much of one, it will cause

an

> imbalance/deficiency of the other. So taking both together nulifies

> any attempt to correct any imbalance.

>

> I do not know if you are magnesium deficient or not, but since most

> people are, the odds are in favor of that over being deficient in

> calcium. If it were me, I would see if magnesium would correct any

of my symptoms, I would take a piece of a magnesium tablet and let it

> disolve in my mouth ( to get an immediate response). If it makes me

> feel better then I would try some more. If the first amount didn't

make me feel any different I would try a little more (within reason)

until I either feel better or worse. If it made me feel better then I

might indicate that I was magnesium deficient and to take extra

magnesium only, but certainly not in combination with any calcium.

>

> In my hypothetical situation, I also could be deficient, and

probably

> am deficint in other nutrients too. so one alone probably will not

be

> the whole answer but it may be part of the answer.

>

> Just as a random suggestion, I would also try the piece of tablet

test

> at a later different time with some other nutrients like zinc which

is

> another one of those that are deficient and very common in most

people. When I might be having some severe leg symptoms, I might put

a few zinc throat/cold lozenges and let them disolve into my mouth

and see if it helps alleviate some of my symptoms. If it does, I need

to correct the imbalance.

>

> Most all of this kind of self testing is going to have to be done

> solely by you. It will require you to really learn about

> vitamins/minerals/amino acids/fats-fatty acids. It will require you

to

> also learn about yourself.

>

> It is very difficult sometimes to do standard blood tests for this

> kind of information, as an example only 1% of the magnesium in your

body is present in the blood, so blood is not a very good indicator

of any overall level or deficiency of magnesium.

>

> Hair if it hasn't been chemically altered is sometimes used to see

> what mineral deficiencies a person had in the past (when that part

of

> the hair shaft was produced). That can be used as a possible

indicator of probable present deficiencies.

>

> So you see, in an email I have written quite a bit and still have

not

> really answered your question as to what to use to correct/heal your

> situation.

>

> It is too complex to just say, to take this " pill " , and that

> should do it, but to really learn about nutrients and learn about

what

> your body needs will cure many, if not most all things and not just

> restless legs. When we give our bodies what they need, our bodies

know

> exactly how to cure themselves. Giving our bodies what it needs is

the

> answer. How do we figure that out. We learn or we go to specialists

> who have learned. But if we learn, we have (hopefully) that

knowledge

> forever.

>

> Education is the key to all of healing. If we are uneducated about

> nutrients, herbs, enzymes, etc. and we try to doctor ourselves

without

> the necessary knowledge, we have about as much success as any other

> endevor which we tried without first learning something about what

we

> are trying to do. We might make uneducated guesses and we might

> accidently hit on the solution but it isn't likely.

>

> It sounds like a lot of work but it really isn't. Also look at it

this

> way. You have been hoping for 20 years that someone else will tell

you

> the answer to what your body needs. Compared to that, learning about

> nutrients, and your own individual biologically unique needs, should

> be a piece of cake. It sure beats guessing whether by me, your

docter,

> or you.

>

> kind regards,

>

> Frank

>

>

>

> , Batzion04@a...

wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been a sufferer of restless legs since the mid 80s. I am

in

> my 40s.

> > It is now to the point that it is a nightly affliction and has

been

> so for

> > years and has progressed to the point that my toes even curl in

> response to

> > the nerves " doing their thing " . drugs in the past only helped

for a

> while.

> >

> > I have tried seemingly every thing for the restless legs

including

> juicing,

> > potassium supplements, calcium supplements, going off meat, green

> tea, and

> > now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs

> calcium). When I

> > took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium, my bones

hurt...I

> did this

> > three times and therefore know it to be true. Further, calcium

> dominance

> > gives me throat burn secondary to reflux (which I get also with

> magnesium being

> > dominant, but worse if calcium is).

> >

> > Regarding the reflux, I have taken ranitidine in the past with no

> success.

> > I want to treat this naturally...any suggestions?

> >

> > And while I am asking for help...I recently had a tubal reversal

> > done...yes..at my age. Are there any suggestions for increasing

> fertiilty at my age

> > when it is stastically low to begin with. I read lots on the

net,

> but it is

> > confusing as what one person suggest, another says is not safe

or

> > contraindicated for a variety of reasons.

> >

> > so to reiterate, I am asking for suggestions on three things: 1)

> restless

> > leg syndrome, 2)reflux, and 3) what to do to increase fertility

for

> one over 40

> > who recently had a tubal ligation reversal.

> >

> > Thanks to all who stayed with me thus far and thanks in advance

for

> any help.

> >

> > Lynn

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In homoeopathy, based upon the symptomic study of the patient, Zincum

Met is sometimes prescribed. In the Biochemic system of medicine both

Calcarea Phos and Magnesia Phos may be prescribed as per the discretion

of the doctor.

 

As restless legs combined with insomnia may be the precursor of a

cerbro spinal disorder in the making,it is best to consult a good

alternate healer at the earliest. Alternate healers consider the

totality of the symptoms.

 

I have given the above examples just to point out that deficiencies of

calcium, magnesium and zinc may often be the reason behind the

syndrome. The above medicines are not to be taken without proper

diagnosis and supervision.

 

Regards,

Jagannath.

[Guest guest]

Dear Priitaa,

 

I tried to show that any symptom may be caused by various different

underlying causes. To suppress a symptom as the allopaths do does not

equate to a cure even though some may bring temorary relief to the

sufferer.

 

I listed 3 possibles:

 

1.toxic damage.

2.yeast type infection.

3Mineral/nutrient type deficiency

 

I strongly suspected a mineral deficiency because of thigs that she said in her

message, so I concentrated on that but wanted her to be aware of other

possibilities.

 

I do not know what you mean by " look at their whole self, their

lifestyle " " making changes in our lifestyle " when refering to my

answer to her other than you probably didn't understand what I was talking

about. I certainly wasn't talking about lifestyle but 3

distinct possibilities and there may be others.

 

 

It seemed to me from her message that this woman has been just taking

a " pill " from other's random suggestions for 20 years now and it

seemed that it was time to put her on the right dirrection to not

only bring about a cure but so that she will not be put into that

position again if she could start on the road to learning.

 

 

So you then say:

" So I just took rainbow lite minerals and pow! All gone. "

 

Her situation may very well be a mineral deficiency and that is why I

went on to explain a little bit about mineral balance and imbalance.

An imbalace is for most intents and purposes about the same as a

deficiency. To take one (calcium) which directly balances another

(magnesium) is part of the problem and will have to be part of the

solution.

 

What I tried to explain and will be lost on a lot of people is the

necessity to learn about the nutrients involved. Most people , even

those who claim to be educated in most modes of alternative healing

are woefully ignorant about vitamins. minerals and other nutrients

even though they all make recommendations to others on what they should and

should not take. A lot of them sound like they have received their alternative

health education from commercial webpages that sell products or low level

information groups rather than any cohesive, comprehensive approach to

understanding how the system works.

 

Lynn wrote in her message:

" now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs

calcium). When I took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium,

my bones hurt...I did this three times and therefore know it to be

true. Further, calcium dominance gives me throat burn secondary to

reflux (which I get also with magnesium being dominant, but worse if

calcium is). "

 

There seems to be a clue to what might be going on here. She feels

worse when taking more calcium. I suspect that she has, among possibly

others, a magnesium deficiency and taking more calcium makes it worse.

 

In taking minerals without understanding that calcium works against

magnesium (and vice versa) and to take both, means that both sides of

the equation are increased and she still winds up in a similar

imbalance such as she had before taking the calcium/magnesium

supplement. This will never correct the imbalance/deficiency because

when she takes what she appears to need (magnesium) she is also taking

at the same time the thing (calcium) that she probably has too much of

so she in essence winds up where she started with the same imbalance.

( this very basic information will come as a surprise to many so called

alternative experts)

 

 

If she has a magnesium deficiency chances are that she also has

others. Zinc being a common one, I also tried to cover that but there

could be others. Most of the minerals that we need are also balnced

against another mineral similar to the calcium/magnesium situation

above and need to be also balanced within our bodies or the

imbalance/deficiency will never be corrected.

 

Mineral/nutrient deficiencies will be different in different areas of the world

depending on diet. To make it further complicated is the fact that we are all

biologically unique. I may need 50 times the amount on one nutrient than someone

else might need.

 

I started this group to get away from all of the " common knowledge " of

a knee jerk type information that had no indepth substance that is

common all over the internet.

 

Do I post only about all of this indepth information? No, I have

posted probably 10,000 messages/articles about nutrition to this group

in the past and they are still in our archives. They are al still thee for those

who want to really learn. We have may other things to read here also. I posted

for 5 years here and I became tired of people who idn't want to learn. I came to

the conclussion that I could post 1,000,000 and it would make no difference in

understanding for most people. So this group isn't for most people. Those that

want to just take a " pill " will find slim pickings here. Don't get me wrong, I

want that too, but no matter what the advertisements say on all of those

webpages selling stuff, or all of those quick one sentence answers that are so

popular in most groups, somebody has to actually know something, whether it is

ourselves or our health care person. To let half the group become the all

knowing expert to cure the other half of 3000 people is impossible to do for a

group. All you wind up with is a lot of ignorant people suggesting mixed

information of part truths, untruths, incomplete truths, etc. things to a lot of

other ignorant people. What is available here is the information or a direction

where to get the information to learn about the things that we need to know to

become our own doctors because most of us feel that we do not have any other

option at this point.

 

For those who want or have all of the instant solutions, there are a lot of

other alternative health groups that are filled with so called " experts " who

spew one sentence solutions to one and all, but basically to anyone who will

stand still long enought to listen. A great many people will go on for years,

going from group to group, asking others for the answer of a magic bullet to

magically cure them instantly and they will get ansewrs by the hundreds, but

usually not the right ones, or complete ones enough to cure, or if they were to

get a correct answer they wouldn't usually recognize it anyway because it would

be drowned out in the " noise " of all of those other answers.

 

Frank

 

 

 

, " Prtha (Priitaa)

devi dasi " <Prtha_devi_dasi@h...> wrote:

>

> Please forgive me, as I hold all respect for the moderator here, and

> agree with all he has to say. Simply, I had suffered, previouisly,

> from both restless leg syndrome and acid reflux. Now I totally agaree

> one needs to look at their whole self, their lifestyle, etc., and see

> what may not be as functional as once thought. To that I wish to add

> what brought me relief. (We can combine the two, me thinks. )

>

> Some types of acid reflux are caused by H.Pylori. More yes than no.

> Doctors use antibiotics when thats it. However, cayenne in capsules

> have freed a person from h.pylori type acid reflux. Tho do take the

> time to learn how to take cayenne.

>

> With my restless leg syndrome, I just rubbed my legs together like

> crazy, and enjoyed it! I did not want to stop! Yet knew 'this isnt

> healthy. " So I looked up on the net (alternative health places)

> natural solutions for this, and as toched on below, minerals! Calcium

> (wtih magnesium) are often the ones first recommended, but even zinc,

> etc., help with this. So I just took rainbow lite minerals and pow!

> All gone. This may not always be the case, but for me it was.

>

> Once there is relief it sometimes makes it easier for us to take on

> the austerity of making changes in our lifestyle. Or for some, they

> get too comfortable again and return to .... not even examining what

> needs changing. All I can say is, first we get a whisper for a

> warning of problems, if we ignore then we get something louder, if we

> go back to ignoring still, we may get a mountain falling on us!

> Personally, I advoate a vegetairan diet for health, but not to get

> into politics over that. To each their own.

>

> Namaste,

> Priitaa

>

>

> , " califpacific "

> <califpacific@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lynn,

> >

> > I really do not see how it would be possible, in an email, to tell

> you all that you would need to know even about one of these questions

> let alone all three.

> >

> > Let's take the restless legs thing first.

> >

> > It seems that you are not trying to find out the cause of it but to

> > just ask for suggestions to try different random things.

> >

> > Here are some of my thoughts in that it might be caused, among other

> > things, by a toxic injury damage to the brain/nerves. Could be from

> prior medications, or some other source within your environment.

> Healing would require that you take sufficient nutrients over time

> necessary to heal.

> >

> > The symptoms might be due to some yeast/fungal infection that could

> be continually producing toxic poisons within your body.

> >

> >

> > It might also be caused by some extreme deficiency/imbalance of a

> nutrient.

> >

> >

> >

> > If it is a nutrient deficiency. It is necessary to try some

> nutrients

> > to see if it makes the condition worse or better. To do that you

> > cannot take two nutrients together and ever expect to determine what

> > is causing what.

> >

> > Also, if you ever expect to figure it out which nutrient you might

> > need rather than just try random things that people might suggest,

> it

> > will require you to understand which nutrient does what. I think

> that

> > you should read everything you can about basic information about

> > nutrients.

> >

> >

> > Calcium and Magnesium, as many other things do, act in the body to

> > balance one another. So, when we get too much of one, it will cause

> an

> > imbalance/deficiency of the other. So taking both together nulifies

> > any attempt to correct any imbalance.

> >

> > I do not know if you are magnesium deficient or not, but since most

> > people are, the odds are in favor of that over being deficient in

> > calcium. If it were me, I would see if magnesium would correct any

> of my symptoms, I would take a piece of a magnesium tablet and let it

> > disolve in my mouth ( to get an immediate response). If it makes me

> > feel better then I would try some more. If the first amount didn't

> make me feel any different I would try a little more (within reason)

> until I either feel better or worse. If it made me feel better then I

> might indicate that I was magnesium deficient and to take extra

> magnesium only, but certainly not in combination with any calcium.

> >

> > In my hypothetical situation, I also could be deficient, and

> probably

> > am deficint in other nutrients too. so one alone probably will not

> be

> > the whole answer but it may be part of the answer.

> >

> > Just as a random suggestion, I would also try the piece of tablet

> test

> > at a later different time with some other nutrients like zinc which

> is

> > another one of those that are deficient and very common in most

> people. When I might be having some severe leg symptoms, I might put

> a few zinc throat/cold lozenges and let them disolve into my mouth

> and see if it helps alleviate some of my symptoms. If it does, I need

> to correct the imbalance.

> >

> > Most all of this kind of self testing is going to have to be done

> > solely by you. It will require you to really learn about

> > vitamins/minerals/amino acids/fats-fatty acids. It will require you

> to

> > also learn about yourself.

> >

> > It is very difficult sometimes to do standard blood tests for this

> > kind of information, as an example only 1% of the magnesium in your

> body is present in the blood, so blood is not a very good indicator

> of any overall level or deficiency of magnesium.

> >

> > Hair if it hasn't been chemically altered is sometimes used to see

> > what mineral deficiencies a person had in the past (when that part

> of

> > the hair shaft was produced). That can be used as a possible

> indicator of probable present deficiencies.

> >

> > So you see, in an email I have written quite a bit and still have

> not

> > really answered your question as to what to use to correct/heal your

> > situation.

> >

> > It is too complex to just say, to take this " pill " , and that

> > should do it, but to really learn about nutrients and learn about

> what

> > your body needs will cure many, if not most all things and not just

> > restless legs. When we give our bodies what they need, our bodies

> know

> > exactly how to cure themselves. Giving our bodies what it needs is

> the

> > answer. How do we figure that out. We learn or we go to specialists

> > who have learned. But if we learn, we have (hopefully) that

> knowledge

> > forever.

> >

> > Education is the key to all of healing. If we are uneducated about

> > nutrients, herbs, enzymes, etc. and we try to doctor ourselves

> without

> > the necessary knowledge, we have about as much success as any other

> > endevor which we tried without first learning something about what

> we

> > are trying to do. We might make uneducated guesses and we might

> > accidently hit on the solution but it isn't likely.

> >

> > It sounds like a lot of work but it really isn't. Also look at it

> this

> > way. You have been hoping for 20 years that someone else will tell

> you

> > the answer to what your body needs. Compared to that, learning about

> > nutrients, and your own individual biologically unique needs, should

> > be a piece of cake. It sure beats guessing whether by me, your

> docter,

> > or you.

> >

> > kind regards,

> >

> > Frank

> >

> >

> >

> > , Batzion04@a...

> wrote:

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I have been a sufferer of restless legs since the mid 80s. I am

> in

> > my 40s.

> > > It is now to the point that it is a nightly affliction and has

> been

> > so for

> > > years and has progressed to the point that my toes even curl in

> > response to

> > > the nerves " doing their thing " . drugs in the past only helped

> for a

> > while.

> > >

> > > I have tried seemingly every thing for the restless legs

> including

> > juicing,

> > > potassium supplements, calcium supplements, going off meat, green

> > tea, and

> > > now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs

> > calcium). When I

> > > took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium, my bones

> hurt...I

> > did this

> > > three times and therefore know it to be true. Further, calcium

> > dominance

> > > gives me throat burn secondary to reflux (which I get also with

> > magnesium being

> > > dominant, but worse if calcium is).

> > >

> > > Regarding the reflux, I have taken ranitidine in the past with no

> > success.

> > > I want to treat this naturally...any suggestions?

> > >

> > > And while I am asking for help...I recently had a tubal reversal

> > > done...yes..at my age. Are there any suggestions for increasing

> > fertiilty at my age

> > > when it is stastically low to begin with. I read lots on the

> net,

> > but it is

> > > confusing as what one person suggest, another says is not safe

> or

> > > contraindicated for a variety of reasons.

> > >

> > > so to reiterate, I am asking for suggestions on three things: 1)

> > restless

> > > leg syndrome, 2)reflux, and 3) what to do to increase fertility

> for

> > one over 40

> > > who recently had a tubal ligation reversal.

> > >

> > > Thanks to all who stayed with me thus far and thanks in advance

> for

> > any help.

> > >

> > > Lynn

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Frank!

 

I think I am being misunderstood.

 

When I said ALL those things to you, it was meant in support of what

you said, not the opposite. Like when you were concerned that I said

>> " look at their whole self, their lifestyle " << I meant that in

agreement with you. Hmmmm Maybe you thought I was talking TO you, so I

was talking to her, not instructing you. Tho I think the more I try to

explain this, the worse it gets. lol So just to know, I completely

like all you have said, and yes! A quick pill aint gonna do it.

 

Namaste,

Priitaa

 

 

 

, " califpacific "

<califpacific@g...> wrote:

>

> Dear Priitaa,

>

> I tried to show that any symptom may be caused by various different

> underlying causes. To suppress a symptom as the allopaths do does not

> equate to a cure even though some may bring temorary relief to the

> sufferer.

>

> I listed 3 possibles:

>

> 1.toxic damage.

> 2.yeast type infection.

> 3Mineral/nutrient type deficiency

>

> I strongly suspected a mineral deficiency because of thigs that she

said in her message, so I concentrated on that but wanted her to be

aware of other possibilities.

>

> I do not know what you mean by " look at their whole self, their

> lifestyle " " making changes in our lifestyle " when refering to my

> answer to her other than you probably didn't understand what I was

talking about. I certainly wasn't talking about lifestyle but 3

> distinct possibilities and there may be others.

>

>

> It seemed to me from her message that this woman has been just taking

> a " pill " from other's random suggestions for 20 years now and it

> seemed that it was time to put her on the right dirrection to not

> only bring about a cure but so that she will not be put into that

> position again if she could start on the road to learning.

>

>

> So you then say:

> " So I just took rainbow lite minerals and pow! All gone. "

>

> Her situation may very well be a mineral deficiency and that is why I

> went on to explain a little bit about mineral balance and imbalance.

> An imbalace is for most intents and purposes about the same as a

> deficiency. To take one (calcium) which directly balances another

> (magnesium) is part of the problem and will have to be part of the

> solution.

>

> What I tried to explain and will be lost on a lot of people is the

> necessity to learn about the nutrients involved. Most people , even

> those who claim to be educated in most modes of alternative healing

> are woefully ignorant about vitamins. minerals and other nutrients

> even though they all make recommendations to others on what they

should and should not take. A lot of them sound like they have

received their alternative health education from commercial webpages

that sell products or low level information groups rather than any

cohesive, comprehensive approach to understanding how the system works.

>

> Lynn wrote in her message:

> " now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs

> calcium). When I took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium,

> my bones hurt...I did this three times and therefore know it to be

> true. Further, calcium dominance gives me throat burn secondary to

> reflux (which I get also with magnesium being dominant, but worse if

> calcium is). "

>

> There seems to be a clue to what might be going on here. She feels

> worse when taking more calcium. I suspect that she has, among possibly

> others, a magnesium deficiency and taking more calcium makes it worse.

>

> In taking minerals without understanding that calcium works against

> magnesium (and vice versa) and to take both, means that both sides of

> the equation are increased and she still winds up in a similar

> imbalance such as she had before taking the calcium/magnesium

> supplement. This will never correct the imbalance/deficiency because

> when she takes what she appears to need (magnesium) she is also taking

> at the same time the thing (calcium) that she probably has too much of

> so she in essence winds up where she started with the same imbalance.

> ( this very basic information will come as a surprise to many so

called alternative experts)

>

>

> If she has a magnesium deficiency chances are that she also has

> others. Zinc being a common one, I also tried to cover that but there

> could be others. Most of the minerals that we need are also balnced

> against another mineral similar to the calcium/magnesium situation

> above and need to be also balanced within our bodies or the

> imbalance/deficiency will never be corrected.

>

> Mineral/nutrient deficiencies will be different in different areas

of the world depending on diet. To make it further complicated is the

fact that we are all biologically unique. I may need 50 times the

amount on one nutrient than someone else might need.

>

> I started this group to get away from all of the " common knowledge " of

> a knee jerk type information that had no indepth substance that is

> common all over the internet.

>

> Do I post only about all of this indepth information? No, I have

> posted probably 10,000 messages/articles about nutrition to this group

> in the past and they are still in our archives. They are al still

thee for those who want to really learn. We have may other things to

read here also. I posted for 5 years here and I became tired of people

who idn't want to learn. I came to the conclussion that I could post

1,000,000 and it would make no difference in understanding for most

people. So this group isn't for most people. Those that want to just

take a " pill " will find slim pickings here. Don't get me wrong, I want

that too, but no matter what the advertisements say on all of those

webpages selling stuff, or all of those quick one sentence answers

that are so popular in most groups, somebody has to actually know

something, whether it is ourselves or our health care person. To let

half the group become the all knowing expert to cure the other half of

3000 people is impossible to do for a group. All you wind up with is a

lot of ignorant people suggesting mixed information of part truths,

untruths, incomplete truths, etc. things to a lot of other ignorant

people. What is available here is the information or a direction where

to get the information to learn about the things that we need to know

to become our own doctors because most of us feel that we do not have

any other option at this point.

>

> For those who want or have all of the instant solutions, there are a

lot of other alternative health groups that are filled with so called

" experts " who spew one sentence solutions to one and all, but

basically to anyone who will stand still long enought to listen. A

great many people will go on for years, going from group to group,

asking others for the answer of a magic bullet to magically cure them

instantly and they will get ansewrs by the hundreds, but usually not

the right ones, or complete ones enough to cure, or if they were to

get a correct answer they wouldn't usually recognize it anyway because

it would be drowned out in the " noise " of all of those other answers.

>

> Frank

>

>

>

> , " Prtha (Priitaa)

> devi dasi " <Prtha_devi_dasi@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Please forgive me, as I hold all respect for the moderator here, and

> > agree with all he has to say. Simply, I had suffered, previouisly,

> > from both restless leg syndrome and acid reflux. Now I totally agaree

> > one needs to look at their whole self, their lifestyle, etc., and see

> > what may not be as functional as once thought. To that I wish to add

> > what brought me relief. (We can combine the two, me thinks. )

> >

> > Some types of acid reflux are caused by H.Pylori. More yes than no.

> > Doctors use antibiotics when thats it. However, cayenne in capsules

> > have freed a person from h.pylori type acid reflux. Tho do take the

> > time to learn how to take cayenne.

> >

> > With my restless leg syndrome, I just rubbed my legs together like

> > crazy, and enjoyed it! I did not want to stop! Yet knew 'this isnt

> > healthy. " So I looked up on the net (alternative health places)

> > natural solutions for this, and as toched on below, minerals! Calcium

> > (wtih magnesium) are often the ones first recommended, but even zinc,

> > etc., help with this. So I just took rainbow lite minerals and pow!

> > All gone. This may not always be the case, but for me it was.

> >

> > Once there is relief it sometimes makes it easier for us to take on

> > the austerity of making changes in our lifestyle. Or for some, they

> > get too comfortable again and return to .... not even examining what

> > needs changing. All I can say is, first we get a whisper for a

> > warning of problems, if we ignore then we get something louder, if we

> > go back to ignoring still, we may get a mountain falling on us!

> > Personally, I advoate a vegetairan diet for health, but not to get

> > into politics over that. To each their own.

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Priitaa

> >

> >

> > , " califpacific "

> > <califpacific@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lynn,

> > >

> > > I really do not see how it would be possible, in an email, to tell

> > you all that you would need to know even about one of these questions

> > let alone all three.

> > >

> > > Let's take the restless legs thing first.

> > >

> > > It seems that you are not trying to find out the cause of it but to

> > > just ask for suggestions to try different random things.

> > >

> > > Here are some of my thoughts in that it might be caused, among other

> > > things, by a toxic injury damage to the brain/nerves. Could be from

> > prior medications, or some other source within your environment.

> > Healing would require that you take sufficient nutrients over time

> > necessary to heal.

> > >

> > > The symptoms might be due to some yeast/fungal infection that could

> > be continually producing toxic poisons within your body.

> > >

> > >

> > > It might also be caused by some extreme deficiency/imbalance of a

> > nutrient.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > If it is a nutrient deficiency. It is necessary to try some

> > nutrients

> > > to see if it makes the condition worse or better. To do that you

> > > cannot take two nutrients together and ever expect to determine what

> > > is causing what.

> > >

> > > Also, if you ever expect to figure it out which nutrient you might

> > > need rather than just try random things that people might suggest,

> > it

> > > will require you to understand which nutrient does what. I think

> > that

> > > you should read everything you can about basic information about

> > > nutrients.

> > >

> > >

> > > Calcium and Magnesium, as many other things do, act in the body to

> > > balance one another. So, when we get too much of one, it will cause

> > an

> > > imbalance/deficiency of the other. So taking both together nulifies

> > > any attempt to correct any imbalance.

> > >

> > > I do not know if you are magnesium deficient or not, but since most

> > > people are, the odds are in favor of that over being deficient in

> > > calcium. If it were me, I would see if magnesium would correct any

> > of my symptoms, I would take a piece of a magnesium tablet and let it

> > > disolve in my mouth ( to get an immediate response). If it makes me

> > > feel better then I would try some more. If the first amount didn't

> > make me feel any different I would try a little more (within reason)

> > until I either feel better or worse. If it made me feel better then I

> > might indicate that I was magnesium deficient and to take extra

> > magnesium only, but certainly not in combination with any calcium.

> > >

> > > In my hypothetical situation, I also could be deficient, and

> > probably

> > > am deficint in other nutrients too. so one alone probably will not

> > be

> > > the whole answer but it may be part of the answer.

> > >

> > > Just as a random suggestion, I would also try the piece of tablet

> > test

> > > at a later different time with some other nutrients like zinc which

> > is

> > > another one of those that are deficient and very common in most

> > people. When I might be having some severe leg symptoms, I might put

> > a few zinc throat/cold lozenges and let them disolve into my mouth

> > and see if it helps alleviate some of my symptoms. If it does, I need

> > to correct the imbalance.

> > >

> > > Most all of this kind of self testing is going to have to be done

> > > solely by you. It will require you to really learn about

> > > vitamins/minerals/amino acids/fats-fatty acids. It will require you

> > to

> > > also learn about yourself.

> > >

> > > It is very difficult sometimes to do standard blood tests for this

> > > kind of information, as an example only 1% of the magnesium in your

> > body is present in the blood, so blood is not a very good indicator

> > of any overall level or deficiency of magnesium.

> > >

> > > Hair if it hasn't been chemically altered is sometimes used to see

> > > what mineral deficiencies a person had in the past (when that part

> > of

> > > the hair shaft was produced). That can be used as a possible

> > indicator of probable present deficiencies.

> > >

> > > So you see, in an email I have written quite a bit and still have

> > not

> > > really answered your question as to what to use to correct/heal your

> > > situation.

> > >

> > > It is too complex to just say, to take this " pill " , and that

> > > should do it, but to really learn about nutrients and learn about

> > what

> > > your body needs will cure many, if not most all things and not just

> > > restless legs. When we give our bodies what they need, our bodies

> > know

> > > exactly how to cure themselves. Giving our bodies what it needs is

> > the

> > > answer. How do we figure that out. We learn or we go to specialists

> > > who have learned. But if we learn, we have (hopefully) that

> > knowledge

> > > forever.

> > >

> > > Education is the key to all of healing. If we are uneducated about

> > > nutrients, herbs, enzymes, etc. and we try to doctor ourselves

> > without

> > > the necessary knowledge, we have about as much success as any other

> > > endevor which we tried without first learning something about what

> > we

> > > are trying to do. We might make uneducated guesses and we might

> > > accidently hit on the solution but it isn't likely.

> > >

> > > It sounds like a lot of work but it really isn't. Also look at it

> > this

> > > way. You have been hoping for 20 years that someone else will tell

> > you

> > > the answer to what your body needs. Compared to that, learning about

> > > nutrients, and your own individual biologically unique needs, should

> > > be a piece of cake. It sure beats guessing whether by me, your

> > docter,

> > > or you.

> > >

> > > kind regards,

> > >

> > > Frank

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Batzion04@a...

> > wrote:

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > I have been a sufferer of restless legs since the mid 80s. I am

> > in

> > > my 40s.

> > > > It is now to the point that it is a nightly affliction and has

> > been

> > > so for

> > > > years and has progressed to the point that my toes even curl in

> > > response to

> > > > the nerves " doing their thing " . drugs in the past only helped

> > for a

> > > while.

> > > >

> > > > I have tried seemingly every thing for the restless legs

> > including

> > > juicing,

> > > > potassium supplements, calcium supplements, going off meat, green

> > > tea, and

> > > > now my latest...chelated magnesium (600 mgs mag and 300 mgs

> > > calcium). When I

> > > > took calcium as being dominant over the magnesium, my bones

> > hurt...I

> > > did this

> > > > three times and therefore know it to be true. Further, calcium

> > > dominance

> > > > gives me throat burn secondary to reflux (which I get also with

> > > magnesium being

> > > > dominant, but worse if calcium is).

> > > >

> > > > Regarding the reflux, I have taken ranitidine in the past with no

> > > success.

> > > > I want to treat this naturally...any suggestions?

> > > >

> > > > And while I am asking for help...I recently had a tubal reversal

> > > > done...yes..at my age. Are there any suggestions for increasing

> > > fertiilty at my age

> > > > when it is stastically low to begin with. I read lots on the

> > net,

> > > but it is

> > > > confusing as what one person suggest, another says is not safe

> > or

> > > > contraindicated for a variety of reasons.

> > > >

> > > > so to reiterate, I am asking for suggestions on three things: 1)

> > > restless

> > > > leg syndrome, 2)reflux, and 3) what to do to increase fertility

> > for

> > > one over 40

> > > > who recently had a tubal ligation reversal.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks to all who stayed with me thus far and thanks in advance

> > for

> > > any help.

> > > >

> > > > Lynn

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >