Kim Bannon Interview on HIV test court case

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Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:02:32 +0200

" Sepp Hasslberger " <sepp

Fwd: Kim Bannon Interview on HIV test court case

 

 

 

This just came in from Cal Crilly, who

interviewed Kim Marie Bannon, a courageous woman

who has single-handedly taken on the Aids-test

industry with her legal case.

 

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/04/27/aids_test_unscientific_test_kit_\

makers_sued_in_kansas.htm

 

 

 

If anyone knows of a good lawyer willing to step

in and help, don't be shy. You can contact Cal at

the email below.

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

 

" Cal Crilly " <escapevirus

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Kim Bannon Interview on HIV test court case

Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:19:52 +1000

 

Kim Bannon Interview on HIV test court case

http://kcindymedia.org/newswire/display/3198/index.php

 

Interview with Kim Marie Bannon, positive in the

HIV test for 13 years and taking the HIV test

manufacturer's to court in Kansas.

Using the 4ZZZ radio interview booth on Friday

22nd July 2005. Brisbane, Australia.

 

Cal Crilly- I'm speaking to Kim Marie Bannon from

Wichita in Kansas who started a court case

against the HIV test back in April of 2004, is

that right?

Kim Marie Bannon- That's right.

CC- And how's it been going?

KB- Well, nothing's really happened on the case

in all this time. The attorneys that I've hired

just have not progressed.

CC- You basically had attorneys that have pulled

out each time when you wanted to bring it through

to court, is that right?

KB- That's basically what's happened. The case is

under an Act, which is called the `Kansas

Consumer Protection Act' and it's basically a

fraud case.

It concerns false advertising of a product, an

HIV test, which is supposed to be able to tell

you if you are infected with a Human

Immunodeficiency Virus. But when you get the

package inserts that come with the test, that is

actually never seen by the consumer, the package

that the tests are in are opened at a lab

somewhere by a technician where they send your

blood off to, and the package insert that's

inside this test has various disclaimers

depending on which test your speaking of, that

say things like this test can't really tell you

whether you have HIV or not.

CC- And you've tested HIV positive for how long now?

KB- Over 13 years, It was May 1 of 1992.

CC- And no symptoms at all?

KB- Very healthy all this time, no drugs, even

not so much as an aspirin since 1995.

CC- So, is this why you're a bit angry?

KB- Actually, I filed the lawsuit not as an act

of vengeance or justice on my own behalf because

at that time no one knew, when I found out about

this fraud, it was 10 years later. So it was in

2002, almost 10 years to the date, and it was

April 18 of 2002, and when I found out about

these disclaimers in the test kits, and I also

found out about a whole bunch of holes in HIV and

AIDS science that started making more sense to me

than what I'd been told all along about AIDS and

HIV. And I researched this and eventually got a

hold of some of these package inserts and

satisfied myself it was true, and that research

was undertaken at first by me just for my own

health because even though I had been well for 10

years I still thought I was just a lucky one.

That it was still going to be pharmies and AIDS

symptoms and I would get sick and die from AIDS

at a young age.

CC- Who have you got to testify in the court case?

KB- Well, Rodney Richards is the lead expert in

the case and myself, although since it's a

Consumer Protection Act case I don't really know

that we need an expert.

You know people, if this is the first time

they're hearing this, if they woke up this

morning thinking HIV caused AIDS, that's because

of what they see in the media, that's because

AIDS tests, HIV tests are constantly pushed on

people.

" Knowing is beautiful " , that's what the

advertisements say, and we're led to believe that

we can be told with certainty whether we have HIV

or not with a blood test or a urine test, now

there are saliva tests and we are told that these

tests are certain.

And that you can't tell by looking at anyone

whether they have HIV or not, that you have to

have this test in order to know. But you get the

package insert and you find out that some of them

blatantly say this test is not to be used for the

diagnosis or the confirmation of the diagnosis of

HIV, I mean it's that blatant. Some of them say

that if you test negative it doesn't mean you

don't have HIV, some of them say if you test

positive it doesn't mean you do have HIV and you

should confirm this test, but there's no test

that says it can be used to confirm.

So, I can't remember what you asked me, if I'm going off track.

CC- Who, is it Rodney Richards, did you say?

KB- Yes, Rodney Richards, who was one of the

founders of Amgen laboratories and has since

finding out about this fraud, left Amgen and he

spends his time trying to educate people about

the hazards of HIV testing.

CC- That's a brave thing to do.

KB- Yes.

CC- And have you got any other support from people for doing this?

KB- I've gotten lots of support, in fact as time

has gone on, I've lost an attorney or gotten

another one, I've even been encouraged to just

take the case to court without an attorney and do

it all on my own. I've contacted at least 50

attorneys.

I should give you a little bit of my background,

I've worked in the court system my entire life

and I'm a very respected member of the local

legal community in Wichita, Kansas where I live.

So these 50 attorneys that I've contacted, most

of them are my friends and I've gotten lots of

free legal advice and they say " wow, Kim, you're

really taking on people who've got a lot of money

and this is scary and you're sure you want to do

that " and they're scared.

I mean, they say, " yeah, it's probably a good

case but I don't want to touch that " .

The lawyers just don't, I don't want to say that

they don't have a conscience but they have

families and they have reputations and they have

niches where they normally work and certain kinds

of cases, and they get into a rhythm of their

practice and a case like this just doesn't fall

into what they normally do and how they make

their living and although they're my friends and

they wish me well, they're just not interested

in..

You know, we're used to seeing Hollywood

depictions of attorneys and these big cases and

all lawyers are after the limelight, I mean

that's just not it at all, that's not the real

world. I mean most lawyers are making a decent

living doing their run of the mill cases and

they're happy with that.

So, it's not so surprising that no one wants to take on a case like

this.

CC- Is there any chance of it becoming a class action case?

KB- Well, that's what I was starting to say a

minute ago was this wasn't for myself that I

brought this case, I do hope it can become a

class action because this isn't about Kim Bannon

and a false positive test result or wrongful test

result or an erroneous test result. This is about

the whole world and the things that are shaping

our thoughts and people are suffering from this.

Even if you don't think you know anyone that has

HIV or AIDS or you have no risk yourself or

people that you know aren't at risk, what you

need to think about is how much money or spending

on this, 160 billion dollars in US funds have

been spent and we have no cure, we haven't saved

one life and this is the result of a flawed

hypothesis. I mean how can ever expect to solve

what's causing AIDS if you start with a flawed

hypothesis and that's what's going on and we're

spending all of this money and other countries

are spending a lot of money and people are

terrorised. Maybe you're happy yourself, maybe

you've been in a monogamous relationship or

you're just not worried, that maybe you have

children or fears, or maybe you're staying in a

monogamous relationship that you'd rather get out

of but you're thinking HIV is out there, I'd

better just stay with the person I'm with because

we haven't given each other anything yet.

I challenge anyone listening to me right now, to

say that a thought about AIDS being out there

hasn't influenced some decision that you've made

in your life in some way.

And if you're diagnosed with HIV and you have a

positive HIV test result it affects every

decision that you make for the rest of your life.

So, the lawsuit is mostly for the people who have

gotten an HIV positive test but it's really for

everyone.

CC- What's the next plan in the court case?

KB- Well, on August 3, which is a little over a

week away, I'm going to the judge to ask him for

more time to look for another attorney and to

postpone some of the deadlines in what's called

the scheduling order, it's a motion to modify the

scheduling order where I will be representing

myself and speaking with the judge to ask for

more time to find another attorney.

CC- Alright, well, I might give you a call later on when something

happens.

 

 

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