Some of the messages are going missing from our group again.

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

Some of the messages are going missing from our group again.

 

 

A message from John was approved along with many others and all went

through except the one from John which was a harsh critical appraisal

of Bush. Evidently or someone who works there picks and

chooses which ones to give long delays of 8 to 12 hours to or makes

them go missing permanently.

 

 

Just trying to keep the group up to date on 's latest shenanigans.

 

F.

[Guest guest]

, " califpacific "

<califpacific@g...> wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> Some of the messages are going missing from our group again.

>

>

> A message from John was approved along with many others and all went

> through except the one from John which was a harsh critical

appraisal

> of Bush. Evidently or someone who works there picks and

> chooses which ones to give long delays of 8 to 12 hours to or makes

> them go missing permanently.

>

>

> Just trying to keep the group up to date on 's latest

shenanigans.

>

> F.

 

Thanks for letting us know Frank:) And to whomever the culprit of

this is, I have a message for them.......KMA!!!!!!!

 

Everyone make it a great day here:) Lynn

[Guest guest]

Re: Problems with . I find it hard to blame

given the overall lack of censorship by .

 

 

I did happen to notice that many group members (myself

included) suddenly could not get their mail after the

group post and references about AOL censoring email.

 

I was able to jiggle my settings and get start getting

the posts by changing the HTML setting for my group

account.

 

But we still don't know how many group members assumed

the group was no longer around and didn't pursue it.

 

Since doing my research on AOL, I do not believe that

AOL is a business in the usual sense of the word.

 

Also, you have the service being used to send the

email and receive the email. It does its own

censoring with web filters and key word searches.

 

I guess there are probably glitches as well.

 

The bottom line is that a lot of energy is wasted when

service is unreliable. If someone comes out with a

reliable service, it will leave these others in the

dust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My firewall kept me from receiving AOL emails. I would have to turn it off

to receive the mail from AOL; and turn it back on afterward.

Just could be some security gone haywire issues with the computers too. IE

security settings.

Censorship could never occur in the land where free speech is protected by

the Constitutions Bill of Rights, could it?

Michael

 

On Behalf Of as

Monday, July 25, 2005 12:43 PM

 

Re: Re: Some of the messages are going

missing from our group again.

 

 

Re: Problems with . I find it hard to blame

given the overall lack of censorship by .

 

 

I did happen to notice that many group members (myself

included) suddenly could not get their mail after the

group post and references about AOL censoring email.

 

I was able to jiggle my settings and get start getting

the posts by changing the HTML setting for my group

account.

 

But we still don't know how many group members assumed

the group was no longer around and didn't pursue it.

 

Since doing my research on AOL, I do not believe that

AOL is a business in the usual sense of the word.

 

Also, you have the service being used to send the

email and receive the email. It does its own

censoring with web filters and key word searches.

 

I guess there are probably glitches as well.

 

The bottom line is that a lot of energy is wasted when

service is unreliable. If someone comes out with a

reliable service, it will leave these others in the

dust.

[Guest guest]

I am just reporting things that I know that are occuring. We all have

the choice to believe them or not.

 

Some members a while back had there messages stopped by someone at

. We got our messages resumed by changing our settings to

receive non HTML messages because the usual HTML messages had been

blocked for some members. As far as I know they still are blocked to

receive them in HTML.

 

As for the other thing happening at present, many people in groups

know that the time of posting is crucial to where a message shows up

in our email boxes.

 

If a person puts the time on the message ahead of the actual time of

posting, the message will be displayed at the top of all your messages

in your email box because they are listed in order of time posted. It will stay

at the top of your email list of messages until you delete it or the time of

advanced posting passes.

 

Coversely, if the message is " delayed " somehow by say 8 to 12 hours

then when the message is received into your email box it does not go to the top

of your email box, but is placed in order with your other messges that were

received say 8 to 12 hours ago. Since it will never be at the top, and these

emails are much less likely to be read and to get lost into the constant stream

of backlogged emails.

 

Although it is not well known, has been quite restrictive

to some groups who were small and had a highly political content. When

a group gets larger they are much more careful about outright

censorship as they are fearful of getting a reputation for doing so.

 

I have watched carefully now for about 4 years and this

group has been on the receiving end of a lot of stuff that has made it

hard sometimes to continue. I know exactly about what I am speaking of

when it comes to some of their tricks, etc. There is a whole history

of different things that they have pulled on us here.

 

The main money advertisers on are the same big money advertisers

in major media and they try to influence available content and

information the same as they do in Major Media, but due to the

reputation of the web being " wide open " , and other web media are much more

careful and circumspect in what they can actually get away with, as a hint of

censorship could be someone's undoing reputation wise on the web. Make no

mistake, is big business now, is now ran by big business types, and plays

well with other big business.

 

I suggest that anyone having trouble with their messages being posted, to just

get another email account and rejoin under that email account and name until it

also goes bad, and then get another email account and start over.

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

, as <glkbreeze>

wrote:

>

> Re: Problems with . I find it hard to blame

> given the overall lack of censorship by .

>

>

> I did happen to notice that many group members (myself

> included) suddenly could not get their mail after the

> group post and references about AOL censoring email.

>

> I was able to jiggle my settings and get start getting

> the posts by changing the HTML setting for my group

> account.

>

> But we still don't know how many group members assumed

> the group was no longer around and didn't pursue it.

>

> Since doing my research on AOL, I do not believe that

> AOL is a business in the usual sense of the word.

>

> Also, you have the service being used to send the

> email and receive the email. It does its own

> censoring with web filters and key word searches.

>

> I guess there are probably glitches as well.

>

> The bottom line is that a lot of energy is wasted when

> service is unreliable. If someone comes out with a

> reliable service, it will leave these others in the

> dust.

>