FRANK

[Guest guest]

Hi Carole,

 

Thank you for responding.

 

I will try an explain further although I have trouble sometimes doing

that. You see I also was very sick and damaged when I started this

group and I still have quite a bit of residual damage from all of the

allopathic treatment that I received over many years.

 

First let me say, that I was more damaged than most who come here. I

couldn't walk and could hardly talk during some of my recovery.

Sometimes I crawled to the bathroom or just lay in a heap in bed or on

the couch, many times not knowing whether I were to live or die. This

went on for a few years, but gradually as I learned about alternative

natural healing I started to slowly get better. I can truely say that

I am still here only because of the natural healing information that I

obtained and because of the people who wrote about what they had

learned and made it available to me in books and on the web. Almost

all who come here are no where near the wreck that I was and with a

lot of ready information and support available here it will be much

easier and faster for everyone.

 

This group was started and was allowed to expand exactly because of

people like you. We want you to be able to get the information

that you need here or be able to show you where to get it. We want you

to ask questions, just as you are doing now, when you are stumpted.

 

As for doing research, we have tried to make that very easy. Many in

this group have done the basic research and accumulated the

information so it is not necessary to go to a search engine and wade

through all of those results. That ia exactly why we put up the

message boards. If you will only go look at them, you will see that

they are divided up into sections. Each section is on a specific

topic. Each topic is further broken down further into catagories etc.

You can easily find almost any area you want.

 

The same holds true for the links page. What we did was evaluate many

noncommercial websites to see what level of information was there and

collected most of the good ones all together into a list so that

anyone can peruse the list and click onto websites outside of this

group to learn about different aspects of natural health.

 

We have a member who graceously helped by downloading all of the

archives and hosted them on his webspace and also made available a

program to download and search them on our own computers. If anyone

feels that they cannot do that they can always use the standard search

window on the front page or message page of the group to search the archives.

 

With those first two tools someone doesn't need to know how to " research

properly " . The way that they are laid out the information is pretty much self

evident.

 

For someone starting out to learn about natural healing it should be

fairly easy as anyone who will read those areas of the message boads

and the relevant sites listed on our links page should easily find a wealth of

good information.

 

Once, someone has a fair understanding of natural health, they will

realize how easy and simple it is. It is just stop putting in the

poisons, take out the accumulated poisons, put in all of the natural

biologically necessary nutrients that your body needs to heal (foods

and supplemental nutrients) and to help those things along with things

like herbs, acupuncture, homeopathy, meditation, etc. It is a very

simple sytem because that is the way that your body works, infact the

way that all of nature works.

 

 

The biggest thing to overcome is our own thinking which has been

distorted by a lifetime of misinformation/propaganda that is rampant

in our societies which makes us only think of health in allopathic

terms. In allopathic terms like... what is the symptom? Label it a

disease. Treat only the symptom called a disease. Do not look for or

try to treat the underlying cause of the symptom that is now called a

disease. The patient should be kept in the dark and know very little.

We must turn over and trust our health to an expert as they have all

of the secrets and know what is best. The body is not to be trusted

and does not know what it is doing. If we are not careful it may go

haywire at any time and self destruct in someway. The medical

authorities know better than your body and the body must be made to do

what the experts say it needs. Almost the only options for treating

most illnesses are chemicals, cutting or radiation. We cannot cure,

but we can treat so that it hopefully will not get worse, (also but unspoken:

but it usually does).

 

If you can stop thinking in those terms you will be miles ahead of

many people who have been studying alternative health for many years

but still are unable to do so.

 

To you and all of the others on this board in similar circumstances,

my prior messages were not to disuade you from posting. You guys are

the real reason that this group still exists. That part of my message

was to try and bring all members into using the resources that we have

in the way that they were intended to be used. That is also the

easiest, fastest way for most to learn with good information.

Otherwise the system will overload, we will all get burned out, the

group will degrade or disappear and no one else will be be helped here

anyway.

 

I'm sorry that I didn't make myself more clear in my previous

messages. Please forgive me. I am also damaged but I try to do the

best that I can.

 

regards,

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

, " SHANJO "

<mail@s...> wrote:

> Hi Frank.

> Many of us coming here have health issues and are seeking ways to

help ourselves. Often being very low and depressed, exhausted etc and

unable to concentrate and think things though well, or maybe we just

dont know how to research for ourselves correctly. I know I dont, I

end up typing in symptom+alternative or similar, and theres so much

crank information, how can we know whats right and wrong?

>

> So how about a simple to understand guide on how to research

properly, maybe giving a common example as a guide to demonstrate.

Then keep this handy and send it as an initial response to all who

come. It could also be in files, sent to new mwmbers or linked to

beneath mods signatures or at top of the emails where it will be

easier to spot it, along with a note to please check link for

assistance before asking questions due to high volume of workload

involved, or something similar

>

> Just a thought based on my own ignorance and efforts. Also, Id like

to thank you all for the great efforts and time you put into this to

help the rest of us out. I do try and not post much as I appreciate

this. No need for a response, this is just an idea being put forward

>

> Carole

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Frank.

Many of us coming here have health issues and are seeking ways to help

ourselves. Often being very low and depressed, exhausted etc and unable to

concentrate and think things though well, or maybe we just dont know how to

research for ourselves correctly. I know I dont, I end up typing in

symptom+alternative or similar, and theres so much crank information, how can we

know whats right and wrong?

 

So how about a simple to understand guide on how to research properly, maybe

giving a common example as a guide to demonstrate. Then keep this handy and send

it as an initial response to all who come. It could also be in files, sent to

new mwmbers or linked to beneath mods signatures or at top of the emails where

it will be easier to spot it, along with a note to please check link for

assistance before asking questions due to high volume of workload involved, or

something similar

 

Just a thought based on my own ignorance and efforts. Also, Id like to thank you

all for the great efforts and time you put into this to help the rest of us out.

I do try and not post much as I appreciate this. No need for a response, this is

just an idea being put forward

 

Carole