Guest guest Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Saturday, June 11, 2005 2:58 PM What if Everything You Know about 9/11 is Wrong? > Interview with David Ray Griffin...rwr > > What if Everything You Know about 9/11 is Wrong? > by Bruce David and Carolyn Sinclair, August 2005 > > Scanned PDF with images: http://911truth.org/docs/drgHfull.pdf > > We all know what happened on September 11, 2001 - Osama bin Laden inspired > 19 Muslim extremists to hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into the > World Trade Center and Pentagon. But what if it didn't happen that way at > all? > > David Ray Griffin is a professor of theology, a well-respected scholar and > author of more than 20 books, including The 9/11 Commission Report: > Omissions and Distortions and The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions > About the Bush Administration and 9/11. Griffin maintains that the > evidence contradicts the government's official story and that, so far, > nobody's come up with a theory that can account for all of the facts. > > At HUSTLER we believe the murder of 2,98fi innocent people demands hard > questions and digging deeper. We're especially troubled by the collapse of > Building 7, but we're determined to keep an open mind. As such, we sit > down with Griffin to discuss what appear to be disturbing inconsistencies > with the government's story. > > HUSTLER: You've compiled a record of the facts-but are they beyond > dispute? > > DAVID RAY GRIFFIN: I simply gather research that has been done by others, > a lot of it based on mainline stories from The New York Times, The Boston > Globe and The Guardian and so on. These reports tend to, more or less, > contradict the official theory. > > You say there's reason to question the government's official position on > Osama bin Laden. > > One problem with the official theory of the attacks being pulled off > entirely by the 19 men named as al Qaeda terrorists is that six of them > have, subsequently, shown up very much alive. This has been reported in > the BBC, but not in the American mainstream press. One guy even walked > into the U.S. Embassy and asked what was this nonsense about his having > died on 9/11? > > What are some other problems with the official story? > > The government had every reason to know this was going to happen. There > were some 52 warnings of the attack, many of which the Bush Administration > didn't see fit to have released until after the inauguration. A little bit > came out during the 9/1 1 hearings. For example, Condoleezza Rice-who had > been describing the famous August 6, 2001, memo from British intelligence > as merely historical in nature-was forced to admit that the title of it > was " Bin Laden Determined to Strike within the United States. " Many people > have thought that was the strongest evidence of foreknowledge-but not at > all. > > Another example involves David Schippers, the attorney who prosecuted Bill > Clinton and is highly thought of in Republican circles. Schippers says he > called up Attorney General John Ashcroft repeatedly to tell him that FBI > agents were warning of an attack, that they knew the date and said it was > going to be in Lower Manhattan. Schippers couldn't get the Attorney > General's office to call him back. The New American, a conservative > political magazine, interviewed these FBI agents and confirmed their > story. > > Further evidence of foreknowledge involves the Secret Service's seeming to > not only know the attacks were coming, but know who was targeted and who > was not. That morning [of September 11], Bush was in a classroom in > Sarasota, Florida, publicizing his education program. After the second > building was struck, there could be no doubt the country was under attack. > Yet Bush just sat there for about ten minutes. > > Many people have criticized the President for not getting up immediately > and going into commander-in-chief mode, but really, the Pentagon handles > these things. Standard operating procedure dictates the Secret Service > should have sprung into action and whisked Bush out of the classroom, into > a car and away to some secure location. > > The Secret Service should have assumed that the President would be the > next target and at least take action as if that might be the case. The > head of the FAA had just reported that there were 11 planes unaccounted > for; and so there might have been 11 hijacked planes at that time. Yet the > Secret Service did nothing. Bush went on national TV at about 9:30 for a > prescheduled talk, and then they got in the limousine and went in the > caravan on the normally scheduled route to the airport. When they got to > the airport, they hadn't even called ahead to make sure there was jet > fighter cover for Air Force One. > > What are some of the contradictions involving the attacks? > > One involves the story about the collapse of the World Trade Center > buildings. We had three buildings collapse there, the North Tower [WTC I], > the South Tower [WTC 2] and Building 7 [WTC 71. Each was a high-rise > steel-frame building. Now, steel-frame high-rise buildings have never in > the history of the universe been brought down by fire. And yet on this > day, three of them were allegedly brought down by fire. There have been > experiments with buildings raging with fire. In the experiments, fire made > them sag a little, but never caused them to collapse. [see Madrid > high-rise fire, page 34.] And yet on 9/11 these three buildings, which had > relatively small fires in them, collapsed. > > People have the image of the South Tower in their minds, and they think, > Oh, these were towering infernos. But most of the jet fuel exploded > outside of the South Tower, which produced the really dramatic effect. But > you have to remember, that effect only lasted for a few seconds, and the > fuel burned up very quickly. In the South Tower there was relatively > little fuel to feed the fire inside; so it would have had to be feeding on > carpets, on desks and things like that. And yet the South Tower collapsed > in less than an hour after it was hit. > > The collapse of Building 7 is particularly unusual, and yet the 9/11 > Commission never mentions it once in their report. Somehow fire got > started in Building 7, which is two blocks away and was never hit by a > plane. There was no jet fuel inside to feed the fire. There are > photographs that show only small fires on floors 7 and 12 of this 47-story > building. And yet at 5:20 in the afternoon it comes collapsing down in > exactly the same way as the other buildings. > > Now I stress in the same way because they all came straight down into > their own footprint for the most part. They collapsed very quickly, within > about ten seconds. That's amazing when you think about it, that fire could > produce that kind of effect, just like controlled demolition. In fact, on > that very night, Dan Rather-viewing the collapse of Building 7-blurted > out, " It looked just like one of those controlled demolitions. " > > Further evidence of Building 7 being brought down by controlled demolition > came from Larry Silverstein, the man who had recently taken a lease on the > entire complex. In a PBS documentary from September 2002, Silverstein said > he told the fire commander that the smartest thing to do was " pull it. " > Next, he says, they " made that decision to pull " and watched the building > collapse. Pull is a term commonly used to describe using explosives to > demolish a building. Silverstein allegedly made almost $500 million in > profit from the collapse of Building 7. > > If the Twin Towers did come down by controlled demolition, wouldn't they > have to be wired for the event well in advance of the attack? > > They would have had to be wired, and then closer to the time [of the > attack] the explosives would actually have to be placed. Several people > who worked in the towers reported that there were times [shortly before > the attack] when a certain part of one tower or the other was sectioned > off for several days, and no one could go there except these special > workers who were called " engineers. " So it does appear that there could > have been this kind of advance planning and that there would have been > time to do this. > > Also, because of terrorist alerts, they had been taking bomb-sniffing dogs > through the buildings, checking for explosives. There is a report that the > bomb-sniffing dogs were called off the weekend prior to 9/11. > > Are there also inconsistencies involving the hijacked aircraft? > > Let's start with Flight 77, which is credited with crashing into the > Pentagon. There are many problems with the official story, which is that > it took off from Washington, D.C., went west, then got hijacked, then > turned around and came hack. Somehow it flew through American airspace, > toward the Pentagon for about 40 minutes, without being detected. > > Our multi-trillion-dollar defense system proved to be worthless. Even more > striking, whatever hit the Pentagon hit the West Wing. These terrorists > are supposedly so brilliant that they defeat this trillion-dollar system, > and yet they didn't know that the West Wing was the worst part of the > Pentagon to hit because all the top brass and Rumsfeld, whom you would > presume they would want to kill, were in the East Wing. > > Secondly, the West Wing was being renovated. It had been reinforced; so > fire would not spread from the West Wing to the other parts, causing much > less damage. Furthermore, very few regular workers were there because of > the renovation. Most of the people killed were civilian workers, not > Pentagon employees. We were told that the facade of the West Wing was hit > by this Boeing 757, which weighs 100 tons and was going 300 miles per > hour. Yet the facade of the West Wing didn't collapse until a half hour > later. Photographs taken by a Marine and an AP photographer show there was > a relatively small hole in the facade. And we're supposed to believe the > 757, with a 120-foot wingspan and 40-foot-high tail, went through there. > The wreckage should he out on the yard, but the photographs show no Boeing > visible. > > Were aircraft parts ever found in the Pentagon wreckage? > > 'There is clearly good evidence that plane parts were photographed in the > Pentagon. But that they were parts from a Boeing 757 is highly and > vigorously contested by many students of 'this event. What passes for the > official story is that somehow this airplane hit the building, went into > this tiny hole, which forced the wings back, and so they folded up and > slipped inside the building. > > The fire chief in charge of putting out the fire was asked if he saw any > plane parts inside. He said no big pieces, no fuselage, no engine, nothing > like that. So the people who try to defend this story respond by saying > the fire was so hot it vaporized the plane. It not only melted the steel > and the aluminum, but it vaporized them; and that's why they disappeared. > > We've since learned that a lot of the bodies in the WTC were so destroyed > that they were not able to identify them using any modern techniques. Yet > this fire in the Pentagon that was hot enough to vaporize steel and > aluminum left the bodies so they could be identified. > > If the government did allow or enable the 9/11 attacks, what is the > motivation? > > The September 11 attacks are being used as the excuse for virtually > everything the Bush/Cheney Administration is doing. Although Iraq had > nothing to do with it-everybody agrees on that now-9/11 was used as the > basis for this war. These guys had been champing at the bit to attack Iraq > since 1992. > > In 1997 some of them formed The Project for the New American Century, a > think tank that claims to promote American global leadership. This > organization involved Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and many others who > became central members and ideologues of the Bush Administration. In 2000 > the group produced a report titled " Rebuilding America's Defenses " that > outlines transforming the military and points out that this will be very > expensive. > > Since the Cold War is over, the report said, we don't have that excuse to > keep military spending up. Many were talking about cutbacks on defense, > i.e. military spending. Americans won't be willing to pony up money for > defense unless there's an event that makes them feel insecure and > threatened by external forces. Therefore, according to the report, any > transformation of military affairs will go rather slowly, " absent some > catastrophic and catalyzing event-like a new Pearl Harbor. " > > You've suggested that we will know what happened on 9/11 when those in > power are arrested or forced to give sworn testimony. Who should that be? > > Cumulative evidence would seem to suggest that it was people such as Dick > Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and General Richard Meyers who probably would have > led the activities. Somebody had to give stand-down orders. Standard FAA > operating procedures involve contacting the military if there's any sign a > plane may have been hijacked, if a plane goes radically off course and > they can't call it back, or if it loses radio contact or the transponder's > turned off. > > The FAA calls the military, which calls the nearest Air Force base, which > sends out jet fighters. They typically scramble a couple of fighters; and > they have a regular routine where they tell the pilots you've been > intercepted, follow me. If they won't comply, then the military pilot > requests permission to take more drastic action. None of that happened on > September 11. Not a single plane was intercepted. Normally, this occurs > within about 15 minutes after signs of problems. In the case of Flight 77, > after almost 40 minutes, there's no jet fighter on the scene. > > But it gets more problematic. In the-first few days we got three different > stories about why there were no interceptions. The first story Meyers and > NORAD [North American Aerospace Defense Command] told was that we didn't > send planes up until after the Pentagon was hit. In other words, an hour > and a half went by before any planes were scrambled. That story created > lots of questions, and so they immediately changed it. On September 18, > NORAD came out and said we did send up fighters, but the FAA was slow in > contacting us, and we tried to get there in time, but didn't make it. > > Then researchers examined the timelines. Those jets can go from scramble > order to 29,000 feet in 2.5 minutes and fly 1,850 miles an hour, which > means they should have arrived in time, even if the FAA was late. > > With the 9/11 Commission, we get a third story from the military, which is > the FAA didn't notify us late; they didn't notify us at all. More > precisely, they had only nine minutes notice with Flight 11, the first > flight, and no notice about the other three flights until after they had > crashed. Of course, this ignores the fact that the military has a radar > system by their own account that is far superior to that of the FAA. But > for now this is the official story. > > Are there also inconsistencies regarding Flight 93, the airliner that > crashed in Pennsylvania? > > With the first three flights the question is, why weren't they intercepted > or possibly shot down? With Flight 93 the question is, why does it seem > the government shot this plane down after it appeared the passengers were > about to wrest control of it? There was a certified pilot aboard as a > passenger who would have been able to bring the plane down safely. You > would have had live people, presumably live hijackers, to interrogate. > > There's an enormous amount of evidence that Flight 93 was shot down. The > government denied it. It's strange that they did, because they could have > said, " This plane was heading toward the Pentagon or the White House, and > we were protecting Washington, doing our job. " For some reason they chose > to deny that they had shot it down; and that became the official story. In > the 9/11 Commission Report they do big-time damage control and remove the > possibility that it could have been shot down by changing the timelines > rather drastically. > > Everybody knows and agrees that Cheney gave the shoot-down order. Prior to > the 9/11 Commission Report, we were led to believe that permission was > given at about 9:45. Many news reports suggest that the shoot-down order > was given before 10 a.m. By his own testimony, Cheney was in charge, down > in the underground bunker-the emergency operation center. > > Norman Mineta, Secretary of Transportation, testified that when he got > down to the underground bunker at about 9:20, Cheney was already there and > had been there for some time. That supports the view that he got down > there at least by 9:15. The 9/11 Commission ignores that evidence and says > Cheney didn't get there until almost 10 a.m. and issued the order after > 10:lO a.m. They conclude the military couldn't possibly have shot down > Flight 93 because it went down at 10:03 or 10:06. > > Standard operating procedures don't require a call from the President; the > Pentagon chain of command can do it. So Rumsfeld, Meyers or a subordinate > could have done it. In any case, they created the idea that only the > President or the Vice President could order it. This is one of the biggest > lies in the 9/11 Commission Report. > > Do you think the truth will ever come out? > > It is extremely difficult to get the truth to come out in America because > the mainstream media are not only co-opted, but accomplices in these > matters. This is understandable because we have a corporate-owned media. > > Take NBC, for example, which is owned by General Electric, one of the > major producers of military equipment in the world. It's very unlikely > you're going to get some reporter on NBC to expose this stuff. Thus far > we've seen nothing about this in any mainstream magazine, newspaper or > television show in this country. > > An international commission with prestigious people would be able to > command attention-so much so that even the American press would be unable > to ignore it. > > ******************************************* > > 2. Outrageous Conspiracy Theories: Report on a Conversation with Philip > Zelikow > > by Thomas Hansen, Ph.D., Charlottesville, Virginia, thansen103 > On the web: > http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-06-07-outrageous.php > > It is nearly a year since the 9/11 Commission report was finished and the > investigation of the events of 9/11 officially came to a close. But > unofficially, many Americans have unanswered questions, and at least some > of this hesitancy to close the book on 9/11 is because of the > long-standing connection between the Bush Administration and the man who > was the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, Dr. Philip Zelikow. > > In a new book by Professor Emeritus David Ray Griffin of the Claremont > School of Theology (The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, > Olive Branch Press, 2005), the case is made that the staff of the 9/11 > Commission acted as gatekeepers who followed the official explanation of > events of 9/11, rather than acting as true independent investigators. > Griffin gives detailed and abundant evidence that he feels shows Philip > Zelikow and his staff did not thoroughly investigate information that was > contrary to what the Bush Administration had already accepted as the facts > of 9/11. > > Last fall I had a conversation with Zelikow, which I feel supports the > ideas and evidence of Professor Griffin’s book. But before I go into what > Dr. Zelikow told me in person, let us look at the facts of Zelikow’s > association with members of the Bush Administration over the past 15 > years. The reason I present this “bio” of Dr. Zelikow is that, while we > expect any person might receive a job offer based on whom they have worked > with and have known in the past, this was not an ordinary job. This job > was to oversee the official investigation of a most serious and > consequential crime, and it occurred under the watch of President Bush’s > Administration. Dr. Philip Zelikow, despite his fine record of integrity > and scholarship, was clearly not independent from the Bush Administration. > And since Bush, Cheney and Rice were three of the witnesses who testified > before the Commission, their relationship with Zelikow is relevant. > > Dr. Zelikow was on the National Security Council of President George H.W. > Bush in the 1980s, working as an aide to National Security Advisor Brent > Scowcroft. Condoleeza Rice was also an aide, working with Zelikow. In > 1997, Zelikow and Rice co-authored a book. Also in the 1990s, Zelikow > directed the Aspen Strategy Group, which included Rice, Scowcroft, Dick > Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and others. Then after President George W. Bush was > elected in 2000, Zelikow was appointed to the National Security Council > transition team to provide recommendations to Rice as she accepted the > position of National Security Advisor to Bush. Shortly after 9/11, Zelikow > was appointed to President Bush’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. In > 2003, he was appointed Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, and took > a leave from his position as Director of the Miller Center of Public > Affairs at the University of Virginia. > > After the 9/11 Commission Report was finished in July 2004, and the > Commission was dissolved, Zelikow returned to his previous Miller Center > position for a few months. Recently he left the Miller Center job > completely and became Counselor of the Department of State, as announced > by new Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on February 25, 2005. To quote > Rice in the U.S. State Department press release of that day, “Philip and I > have worked together for years, and I value his counsel and expertise. I > appreciate his willingness to take on this assignment.” To quote the State > Department press release, “Though the position has been vacant since 2001, > the office of the Counselor is not new, having been part of the > Department’s organization since 1909. The Counselor is a principal officer > of the Department. As Counselor, Dr. Zelikow will serve as a senior policy > advisor on a wide range of issues and will undertake special assignments > as directed by the Secretary.” > > So we see from these facts that Philip Zelikow’s work with members of the > Bush Administration preceded his 9/11 Commission work for 15 years, and it > has now resumed again, fulltime. Apparently, we are supposed to assume > that during 2003-2004, when he was Executive Director of the 9/11 > Commission, he was NOT “associated with” members of the Bush > Administration as he had been before, and is again now. He was somehow > able to distance himself from his past relationship with them, oversee the > interviews of many witnesses, thoroughly investigate all of the evidence, > and supervise the writing of the final 9/11 Commission Report without > being influenced by his past association with them. And now he has been > able to re-associate with them in good stead and be re-hired by the Bush > Administration fulltime in an important position. > > Dr. Zelikow gave a lecture at the Miller Center at UVA on September 10, > 2004, titled, “The Road to 9/11,” and another on October 14, titled, “The > Road From 9/11.” I attended the second of the two lectures and had an > opportunity afterwards to have a conversation with him for several > minutes. Among other things, I asked him why the Commission did not report > more evidence that would answer the specific conspiracy concerns and > questions that have been circulating regarding 9/11. I asked him why the > Commission would let these concerns go unanswered and cause unnecessary > doubt and dissent in the country. > > I pointed out to Dr. Zelikow that one of many reasons this conspiracy talk > about 9/11 continues is that there have been no photos released of the > Boeing 757 wreckage inside the Pentagon, or outside either, as we normally > see after a civilian plane crash. I asked if he has seen photos that show > the wreckage of the 757. He said, yes, they have photos, and that he has > seen them, and he also said that there are eyewitness reports from a dozen > or so rescue workers at the Pentagon who confirm seeing those airplane > parts in the wreckage. Well, I asked, can I or some other ordinary person > see these photos? He said no. I asked if I could see the rescue worker’s > statements, and he said no. I told him I had seen photos of the exterior > Pentagon wall before it collapsed, and the hole where the plane entered > appeared to be only about 20 feet in diameter, with unbroken window frames > on either side of it where the wings and engines would have hit. This hole > was much too small for a 757 to enter, and no wreckage of the plane is > shown on the ground outside. He said those photos might have been > “adjusted” in scale by someone to give the wrong impression. I asked if I > or anyone else could see the National Transportation Safety Board report > about the crash, or even about the 757 being picked up by radar as it > approached Washington, and he said no. He said that the air traffic > controllers at Dulles saw on their radar that a plane was approaching, > without its transponder turned on, but they could not identify it just by > radar. It was not one scheduled to come into Dulles, so they assumed it > was landing at Reagan National, and when it dropped off their radar at the > Pentagon they knew something was wrong. This was 35 minutes after the > second World Trade Center Tower had been hit. I told him this explanation > defied reason, but he said it is proven in the NTSB Report, which I can’t > see. > > I told Dr. Zelikow that this secrecy of the 9/11 Commission is still > fueling conspiracy theories and distrust throughout the country and around > the world. Then I asked him why he and the Commission and the staff don’t > simply release photos and other information to the public so that we can > rest assured that the Commission has fully investigated and answered these > and other persistent questions. His answer was that the staff, including > himself of course as Executive Director, made a conscious decision not to > dignify these “outrageous conspiracy theories” by investigating them or > reporting on them. In my opinion, this statement by Dr. Zelikow lends > credence to Professor Griffin’s charge that Zelikow’s staff acted as a > filter of what would be investigated and reported. Dr. Zelikow then told > me he could see my point about the public wanting to know more, and he > said he would go back to the Commission staff and re-visit the question of > what to release. We’re still waiting. > > Americans are concerned about the unanswered questions of 9/11. The > reputable polling firm, Zogby International, conducted a poll of State of > New York citizens in August 2004. Results showed that 49.3% of New York > City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall said that some of our > leaders “Knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September > 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act.” Nearly 30% of > registered Republicans agreed with this statement, despite the serious > legal and political implications. Only 36% of the total respondents > believed that the 9/11 Commission had “answered all the important > questions about what actually happened on September 11th,” and 66% want > another full investigation of the “still unanswered questions.” > > CSPAN2 recently broadcast, and rebroadcast, the speech Professor Griffin > gave about his book to a standing-room-only crowd at the University of > Wisconsin. People are paying attention and learning and speaking up. As > the 9/11 Commission Report approaches its 1-year anniversary, many > Americans are not celebrating, nor are they letting it all just fade away. > We pay the salaries of those who have made conscious decisions to > investigate and report only what fits their own version of 9/11 events, > and their own vision of what the world should be like for them. It seems > that “we the people” are considered by some officials to be just > bystanders, without the right to see the evidence that our leaders have > seen, and to decide for ourselves what is true. The Bush Administration > has demonstrated a pervasive pattern of secrecy, deception, and arrogance, > not just related to the 9/11 investigation. They have left the rest of us > in the dark, but we can see well enough to fear that the Emperor has no > clothes. > > ******************************************* > > 3. A Personal Decision, by 9/11 Whistleblower Kevin Ryan > > On the web: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0506/S00144.htm > > Have you ever found yourself caught between several hundred million people > and their most cherished lies? After writing a letter to a government > scientist, pleading with him to clarify a report of his work, I found > myself in just that situation. The letter was circulated on the internet > and for a brief time I became a reluctant celebrity. Of course I stand > behind what I wrote, although it was originally intended as a personal > message, not an open letter. Since many have asked for clarification, here > is my message to all. > > To me, the report in question represents a decision point, not just for > the US, but for humanity as a whole. We're at a point where we must decide > if we will live consciously, or literally give up our entire reality for a > thin veneer of lies. In the US these lies include cheap propaganda that > passes for journalism, police-state measures that promise security, and > mountains of debt that paint a picture of wealth. Additionally we've > adopted many implicit self-deceptions, like the idea that we'll always > enjoy a limitless share of the world's resources, no matter where these > are located or who might disagree. > > All people lie to themselves. It's one of the most important things we > have yet to accept about our own nature. We lie to ourselves to justify > our past actions, to protect our self-image, and to promote ourselves > relative to others. This lying is at the root of many of our problems > (e.g. nationalism and racism). Until we see this, and strive to > understand if not control it, the resulting problems will continue > unchecked and the outcome will be certain. Any organism or society that > makes self-deception its modus operandi will make many bad, and ultimately > fatal, decisions. The day will come when we are collectively fooling > ourselves in such a way that we essentially trade everything we have for > what's behind our fantasy curtain. It appears that day is near. > > The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a key part of our current > self-deception. More importantly, this story may be our last chance to see > just how critical our situation is so that we can all stop, and begin > working together to solve the real problems we face. These problems, for > the US and the world as a whole, amount to a growing storm of factors > including environmental changes, resource depletion, and growth in > resource usage.[1,2] Undoubtedly the secret Energy Taskforce report of > May 2001 would verify this, and help us to understand that our government > is responding to some of these threats with a carefully laid out plan. > This plan assumes that people cannot rise above their own natural, > ego-based self-deception, and therefore few of us will survive the coming > storm. In essence, they're betting against us. > > Anyone who honestly looks at the evidence has difficulty finding anything > in the official story of 9/11 that is believable. It's not just one or two > strange twists or holes in the story, the whole thing is bogus from start > to end.[3] In my previous job I was in a position to question one part, > the collapse of three tall buildings due to fire. But this isn't really a > chemistry or engineering problem, and may be best approached initially > through statistics. > > The three WTC buildings in question weren't all designed the same way and > weren't all hit by airplanes. The only thing they seemed to have in common > were relatively small and manageable fires, as indicated by the work of > firefighters right up to the moment of collapse. From the government's > report we know that only a small percentage of the supporting columns in > each of the first two buildings were severed, and that the jet fuel burned > off in just a few minutes. > > To follow the latest 'leading hypothesis', what are the odds that all the > fireproofing fell off in just the right places, even far from the point of > impact? Without much test data, let's say it's one in a thousand. And what > are the odds that the office furnishings converged to supply highly > directed and (somehow) forced-oxygen fires at very precise points on the > remaining columns? Is it another one in a thousand? What is the chance > that those points would then all soften in unison, and give way perfectly, > so that the highly dubious 'progressive global collapse' theory could be > born? I wouldn't even care to guess. But finally, with well over a hundred > fires in tall buildings through history, what are the chances that the > first, second and third incidents of fire-induced collapse would all occur > on the same day? Let's say it's one in a million. Considering just these > few points we're looking at a one in a trillion chance, using generous > estimates and not really considering the third building (no plane, no jet > fuel, different construction). > > How convenient that our miraculous result, combined with several other > trains of similarly unlikely events, gives us reason to invade the few > most strategically important lands for the production of oil and natural > gas. As I said, this is not about chemistry or engineering. Our continued > dependence on this highly improbable story means that we have a desperate > need to believe it. It is, in fact, a psychology problem. > > Solving the problem is a personal challenge, and involves at least > three-steps. First, we have to admit we were wrong, and that we were > fooled. This is not easy for most people, but congratulations to the > neo-cons for noticing that their political opponents seem to be least able > to admit they were wrong on any significant issue. Secondly, we have to > see that terrorism is actually much worse than we feared because the > terrorists are in charge. Such a pause on a national scale would be > dramatic to say the least. If we get to the third step we begin to > realize the scope of change necessary to move forward in a conscious > manner. Obviously the US government must be substantially changed and/or > forgiven. New cooperative, multinational agreements would need to be > implemented immediately.[4] > > If you make it through step one and care enough about people to work for > step three, you may face ridicule and isolation. You may lose your income > and some friends, but if we continue down the same path there's a real > chance you're going to lose those anyway. On the upside you may be able to > hold on to some sense of integrity. The only thing you can be certain of > is that we're all in this together. No matter how you voted, what > credentials or positions you hold, or what faith you have in people, you > will face the consequences of our collective self-deceptions. Now is the > time for each of us to decide between a stormy reality and what's behind > the fantasy curtain. > > ******************************************* > > 4. Narco Dollars for Beginners, with Catherine Austin Fitts > > A message from Emanuel Sferios, Webmaster, 9/11 Visibility Project > > I am sure many rs to the 9/11 Visibility Project mailing list are > familiar with Catherine Austin Fitts of Solari.com. We have forwarded a > number of her articles in previous announcements and newsletters. For > those who aren't aware, Catherine produces regular, 75-minute audio > seminars on various topics. Last Thursday I had the privilege of hosting > her most recent seminar called " Narco Dollars for Beginners, " based on her > most popular and widely published article by the same name. As part of a > series designed specifically for activists to better understand the real > deal in economic warfare, Catherine is offering the seminar to 9/11 > Visibility Project rs for half off the regular, $20 price. So for > $10 you can download and listen to the mp3 file from the solari store > website. Use the following link, and after adding " Narco Dollars for > Beginners " to your shopping cart, simply type " 911vis " in the coupon code > box at the bottom of the page (without the quotation marks) and then click > checkout button. The 9/11 Visibility Project supports Catherine and the > work she is doing, and we strongly encourage you to check out this audio > seminar. Here's the link: > > https://www.rnserve.net/solari/product.php?productid=20 & partner=911vis > > ******************************************* > > 5. 9/11 Truth in Higher Education: A call to students & faculty > > Institutions of higher education have, for the most part, failed to > carefully examine the official explanation of the events of 9/11. After a > brief period of introspection, university faculty and students have gone > back to business as usual. And yet, we now all live in a post 9/11 world. > Institutions of higher education have a special responsibility to pursue > the truth wherever it leads. In this spirit, a number of colleges, > universities, and seminaries have already committed themselves to taking a > closer, more critical, look at the events of 9/11 and the official > explanation of these events. If you are a student or faculty member at a > college, university, or seminary and would like to become involved in this > project, please contact Dr. Marcus Ford, Professor of Humanities at > Northern Arizona University, at mpf1950 for more information. > We need individuals who can secure an on campus location, facilitate > discussion, distribute information, and so on. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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