Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:20:08 +0200 " Cal Crilly " <escapevirus " Sepp Hasslberger " <sepp Re: Bitching about u in public CC: backtalk Great message Cal, couldn't agree more with your sentiments. And you, Motherjones People - please get with it. There is lots of information on AIDS that should be disseminated to a larger public. The tragedy is not AIDS but the death sentence that is given by a false test, the mass executions by toxic AZT or " cocktail " and the complete lack of concern for the real problems of Africa, which are economic problems, malnutrition and less than optimal sanitary conditions. If you wonder why I say these things with conviction, look at my site and search " HIV " or " AIDS " . You'll find some food for thought. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/ Kind regards Sepp At 15:09 +1000 24-05-2005, Cal Crilly wrote: >Dear Mother Jones People, > I'm >one of those thousands of people who have >followed the HIV/AIDS technology farce for >several years and thought I should let you know >I've been bitching about your awful article at a >newspaper forum in South Africa. >Foo Fighters, HIV Deniers >February 25, 2000 >http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/02/foo.html >Lumping these people in with nazis and holocaust >deniers is gutter journalism and the only thing >I see them doing is following a story you >obviously know next to nothing about, don't >shoot the messengers. >I know your story is five years old but it's >still there so you've missed a lot in between >and I'll have to tell you a little bit. >Over the last decade 18,000 kids were pumped >full of toxic chemicals in NIH AIDS drug trials >and we have no idea how many of those kids were >without guardians as many had been removed from >parents, this is now going to Congress. >Orphans on Trial >http://www.altheal.org/toxicity/orphans.htm >A National Scandal: AIDS Drug Experiments on Foster Care Children >http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/05/05/04.php >The thing is that while you scribbled your story >back in 2000, Nevirapine, the drug that Bush has >shipped into Africa, was already showing >shocking side effects. >These photos are shocking and yet the FDA has >let this all go through, even more shocking is >that with mandatory pregnancy testing for HIV, >many more women will get conned into taking it. >Nevirapine Flesh-eater Halted SA Aids Trials >http://www.aidsmyth.addr.com/viramune.htm >This has been all coming out in mainstream media too. >New York's HIV experiment >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/4038375.stm > " NIH officials acknowledge that experimental >drugs, most likely nevirapine, caused her death, >and that keeping the family in the dark was >inappropriate. But NIH usually leaves >disclosures like that to the doctors who treated >her, officials said. > " Ouch! Not much wwe (we) can do about dumd >(dumb) docs, " Dr. Edmund Tramont, NIH's AIDS >Division chief, responded in an e-mail after his >staff reported that doctors continued to >administer the drugs Nevirapine and Combivir to >Hafford despite signs of liver failure. " >Fatal Drug Error Kept From Family >Dec. 16, 2004 >http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/16/health/main661482.shtml >Credibility Crisis:Survey FDA Scientists - Death in NIH-AIDS Trial >Thu, 16 Dec 2004 >http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/04/12/16.php > " Nevirapine: Also known as Viramune®, nevirapine >is used for the treatment of HIV infections. >Nevirapine can cause severe liver damage that >could be potentially fatal. Symptoms of liver >damage include fatigue, upset stomach, loss of >appetite, pale stools, dark urine, and jaundice. >Nevirapine can also cause serious skin reactions >that could be life threatening. Patients >experiencing a rash in conjunction with lack of >energy, fever, fatigue, blisters, blisters in >the mouth, muscle or joint pain, or pink eye >should contact their physician as soon as >possible. Those that experience an adverse >reaction due to nevirapine use can choose from >our list of medical malpractice lawyers to find >an attorney in your area of residence. " >http://www.medicalmalpracticefyi.com/pharmaceutical_litigation_dangerous_drugs.\ html#nevirapine > " Women at the National Institutes of Health >faced sexual intimidation and repeated disregard >of their concerns for the welfare of patients in >AIDS experiments, according to testimony by two >senior female officers and documents gathered by >investigators. " >NIH Women Describe Sex Harassment >Sunday 10 April 2005 >http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/041105WB.shtml > " Weeks before President Bush announced a plan to >protect African babies from AIDS, top U.S. >health officials were warned that research on >the key drug was flawed and may have >underreported thousands of severe reactions, >including deaths, government documents show. " >Research Flawed on Key AIDS Medicine >Bush Had Planned Its Use in Africa >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62360-2004Dec13.html >Uganda AIDS Study Under Fire >Story aired: Monday, January 10, 2005 >http://www.here-now.org/shows/2005/01/20050110_2.asp >So now there are regular protests outside the >Incarnation Centre, one of many testing grounds. >Rally for Black & Latino Children! >No More " Tuskegee Experiments " on our Children. February 17, 2005 >http://www.millionsforreparations.com/icc.html >Mothers are going on the run with their kids to save them from AIDS drugs. >Children, Pediatric AIDS (PAIDS), AZT Fugitives >http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/kids.htm >The HIV test is up for litigation. >Kim Marie Bannon just submitted this civil >lawsuit against AIDS testing facilities and >manufacturerers. >http://www.think-fitness.de/html/bannon_lawsuit.html > >This is just the tip of the iceberg of what you >missed with AZT and it is still a star drug, >it's a very sad joke they can sell this for >consumption and have done for years. >Remember they gave this to Freddie Mercury and look what happened. >This study was 1994. > " An Asian study details the birth defects-extra >fingers, misplaced ears, misshapen faces, >abnormal pigmentation, neurological problems, >heart defects, and more-found in babies born to >pregnant women who take AZT. " > " I first learned in 1992 that babies born to >women given AZT while pregnant had various types >of deformities. " >Nightmare on AZT Street >http://www.chronicillnet.org/online/AZT.html >Read the scoop story told to Adv. Brink by the >scientist who first synthesized AZT in 1961 – as >an experimental cell-poison to kill human cells. >http://www.tig.org.za/pdf-files/inventing_azt.pdf >http://www.tig.org.za/ >New York Times (02/14/95) P. C13; Altman, >Lawrence K. Federal health officials have halted >a large study on AZT in children with AIDS >because the drug appeared to be ineffective in >slowing the disease's progression. In addition, >AZT was associated with a higher-than-expected >incidence of adverse effects, such as bleeding >and biochemical abnormalities. Dr. Anthony S. >Fauci of the National Institute of Allergy and >Infectious Diseases (NIAID) said that experts >should meet soon to decide whether HIV-infected >children should receive ddI alone or in >conjunction with AZT. The study was sponsored by >NIAID and the National Institute of Child Health >and Human Development. >http://www.aidsinfobbs.org/library/cdcsums/1995/518 >AZT RECOMMENDED FOR HIV-POSITIVE >PREGNANT WOMEN AND THEIR BABIES: >Sense or Insanity? >http://heal_portland.tripod.com/aztpreg.htm >An AZT researcher blows the whistle. > " But the way that I look at this is that it's >never too late to report this to the NIH, AGAIN. >And the important thing is that I still have ALL >of my original documents (an entire box full of >material) which I tried to share with them in >1990. I have precise names, patient numbers, >dates, lab values, memos, etc. I KNOW that my >information is accurate, because I was so >thorough and meticulous (not to mention HONEST) >in my record-keeping. That's why they hired me – >I'm an extremely detail-oriented, " numbers " >person. Thus, all of my information could, in >theory, be verified by referring to the original >research forms and NIH documents from that time >period, which must still exist and >(theoretically) could be obtained through the >Freedom of Information Act. Ideally, my second >attempts to report this could lead to a >Congressional Investigation. That is certainly >what I will be calling for. The seriousness of >my allegations certainly warrants such an >investigation. For the NIH to knowingly ignore >serious and credible DOCUMENTED reports of gross >scientific misconduct coming from someone >working on the INSIDE of these trials – if that >doesn't constitute scientific " fraud, " I don't >know what does. Especially when we look at the >real-life gruesome outcome of this deliberate >refusal to even INVESTIGATE my allegations to >see if there was any merit to them (along with >all of the other glaringly obvious, telltale >signs and warnings coming from around the globe, >which were also ignored at that time) – all of >this intentional " blindness " on the part of the >NIH, the FDA, Burroughs Wellcome, etc., led to >the unnecessary and unimaginable suffering of >countless individuals (of both " HIV+ " people and >their loved ones), and the unnecessary deaths of >(in my view) tens of thousands of people. This >dreadful holocaust continues to this day. Parks >Mankahlana, couldn't have summed it up better >when he said " ...the profit takers who are >benefiting from the scourge of HIV/AIDS will >disappear to the affluent beaches of the world >to enjoy wealth accumulated from humankind >ravaged by a dreaded disease. " " >An Eyewitness Account of Gross Irregularities >and Medical Incompetence in the Early Clinical >Trials of AZT >by Lynn Gannett >http://www.rethinking.org/aids/AZT.html >The argument about access to generic drugs is >utterly meaningless, the same drug companies own >the generic manufacturers. > >Now this is what I said when I bitched about >you, I don't think I was too harsh and if you >want to harass me for it you can leave a message >in public on the forum. >You might have to read what I've said though and >that requires work and thinking. > > " Sticking up for Dr. Rath " at the Mail and Guardian Forum in South Africa >http://forum.mg.co.za/showflat.php?Cat= & Number=235914 & page=0 & view=collapsed & sb=\ 5 & o= & fpart=1#235914 > > " There has been terrible abuse of Nobel winners, >doctors, scientists, presidents, simply because >they've added two and two together and realized >maybe these drugs are not good for our mothers >and kids. >Or that maybe that other things are killing people? >Here is an instance, this is from a magazine >that writes and criticizes the Iraq war but on >the AIDS issue simply jumped on the fashion >bandwagon and parroted what the drug companies >would love to hear. >Bush and the large pharmaceutical companies are >all mates, this is why he gives billions to ship >Nevirapine into Africa, and they give the >Republican party a hefty donation in return. >So why would this magazine support the drug >cartel money that supports Bush while >criticizing Bush for Iraq? >You either support the AIDS drug agenda and the >war in Iraq or you don't, otherwise it's >hypocrisy. >I just think they need to get their stories straight. > > " Some rock stars want to free Tibet. Others want >to save Mumia. The Foo Fighters, on the other >hand, want their fans to ignore accepted medical >wisdom about AIDS. The >multimillion-album-selling alternative rock >outfit has thrown its weight behind Alive and >Well, an " alternative AIDS information group " >that denies any link between HIV and AIDS. In >January, Foo Fighters bassist Nate Mendel helped >organize a sold-out concert in Hollywood to >benefit the group. Foo fans were treated to a >speech by Alive and Well founder Christine >Maggiore, who believes AIDS may be caused by >HIV-related medications, anal sex, stress, and >drug use, and implies that people should not get >tested for HIV nor take medications to counter >the virus. " >Alive and Well is one of several fringe groups >that deny a link between HIV and AIDS. Similar >theories have been put forth over the years by >various far-right groups and anti-Semitic >conspiracy theorists, and other so-called > " HIV-refuseniks. " >Foo Fighters, HIV Deniers >February 25, 2000 >http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/02/foo.html >I don't think they know anything about this do >they? Bet they never really asked the >Foofighters anything or looked at what `Alive >and Well' had to say. Bet they never apologised >for basically calling Alive and Well Nazis. >Alive & Well AIDS Alternatives >http://www.aliveandwell.org/ >Now this is Christine's story, I think someone >who gets positive and negative in the HIV test >should be allowed to complain at having been >stuffed around so much by the incompetence of >the medical profession. >SURVIVOR'S STORY >The Trials and Tribulations of Christine Maggiore >http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cmstory.htm >I think the propaganda is out of control, people >are talking about HIV/AIDS as a weapon and the >paranoia is unbelievable. >This story for instance, these are real Nazis >and they believe in the HIV myth. >I'll post the link to Africa Speaks so you can >see the comments and how people talk of HIV as a >weapon, having sex with the enemy to kill them, >oh dear. " > > " Recently, at the University of Cincinnati, a >group of white students referred to as the >National Alliance posted flyers on campus that >target African-American students. >The flyers read " Don't Have Sex With Blacks - >Avoid AIDS " . The flyer was seen all over campus, >and was even featured in the school newspaper as >an advertisement. >Erika Guice, a Black student at the University, >comments, " I saw the flyer and not only were we >embarrassed, but we were devastated at why would >our school would allow this to be posted in the >newspaper. " >Don't Have Sex With Blacks - Avoid AIDS >http://www.blacknews.com/pr/ucinn101.html >http://africaspeaks.com/reasoning/?board=general;action=display;num=1114666095 > >You have to admit that your piece was a classic >example of the vicious propaganda that we have >to wade through just to let people know they are >being poisoned to death. The most constructive >thing you could do is tell people these stories >so I can go back to a normal life without the >awful horrifying truth eating into my head. This >was never my job to tell you, I only know about >this because I was lent " The AIDS War " in 1998 >from Queensland University, a book from 1994 >that tells the AZT story and the HIV test >contradictions. John Lauritsen, the writer, is a >statistical analyst from Harvard and is not an >anti-Semitic nazi. >http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data2/jlbio.htm >http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/jlauritsen.htm >John is a gay activist and was accusing you and >the HIV pushers of genocide in 1994. > >Unlike the Foofighters we're not worried about >any reputation and since no one's going to >notice we are quite happy to sing songs about >this because it's an evil empire and it will go >down. > >HIV/AIDS Inc. >What a scam, what a farce >You prize morons are a laugh >We've been waiting for two decades >But peer review it came too late >Now the mothers that you're testing >Just think they're going to die >The new drugs are dead investment >The human virus was a lie > >HIV/AIDS Inc. is going down >They're taking kids away >Forcing down the toxic drugs >HIV/AIDS Inc. is going down >They want to come and tag you >Like neo-nazi thugs > >Now the lawyers see a cake >And they're going to get a portion >While countries bring in quarantine >Forced medications and abortions >The same paranoid laws >Are passing across the USA >Got a new human strain >To segregate the gays > >HIV/AIDS Inc. is going down… > >All this media brainwashing >Has failed to get to me >The Africans are dying >From starvation and TB >And I'm sick of pessimism >When we already have solutions >Food, water and clean air >Clean up sewage and pollution > >HIV/AIDS Inc. is going down >They're taking kids away >Forcing down the toxic drugs >HIV/AIDS Inc. is going down >They want to come and tag you >Like neo-nazi thugs > >Alien Virus >http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=17045 > >I think a website called African Rainbow Circle >where they use their best ideas to fix AIDS >without patronising western poisons sum it all >up for you. > " THE AIDS INDUSTRY AND MEDIA WANT YOU TO THINK THERE ARE ONLY > " a small band of scientists who claim that HIV does not cause AIDS " >And the list goes on and on…. >There you have it. No " handful of wild-eyed >conspiracy theorists. " No " right-wing racists, " >as the Aids industry's spinmeisters would have >you believe. Just 2,183 very serious, concerned, >highly educated people from every corner of the >globe who sense that an enormous tragedy is >unfolding due to the medical establishment's >unwillingness to face the evidence that the >Hiv-Aids theory is a mistake. >The people on this page were intellectually >curious enough to have sought out and studied >the arguments that discredit the Hiv-Aids >theory. Since the mass media and professional >journals censor these arguments, the vast >majority of doctors and scientists, although >decent people who want to do the right thing, >have never been exposed to them, and so accept >the biased conclusions of politicized >bureaucracies like the CDC and WHO, whose >coziness with the drug industry is legendary and >whose recommendations always seems to dovetail >perfectly with drug industry marketing plans. >Were it not for the massive media blackout of >information that contradicts the Hiv theory, >this list, long as it is, would be many times >longer. " >http://www.arc.org.za/2000_Dr_Dissidents.htm >Why HIV tests & mandatory vaccination should be banned >http://www.arc.org.za/AIDS_Tests.htm >These enterprising people are fixing up AIDS >patients and they do a roadshow where victims of >Antiretroviral drugs even tell their stories. > " Ex-patients present themselves AIDS/AIDS ARV's >/ HIV/AIDS / DIABETES/ SKIN DISEASE / ARTHRITIS >/ HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE .... " >http://www.arc.org.za/Road_show.htm > >The best thing you could do, is remember that >the war in Iraq is not the only news and there >is a whole chapter in history that you are >missing and could pass on. >It shouldn't be a factory worker from Australia >that is telling you this and it's really your >job to tell people about what is going down. >Can we also have some less gloom and doom please, this can be a good story. >You can pass this email to anyone you wish to, >I'll send it to everyone I know. >All the best with your magazine and have a good week. Yours Sincerely. Cal > > > " Everything about Tine van der Maas is larger >than life. A few moments in her towering 6ft 2in >no-nonsense straight-talking presence is a tonic >- proof that she practises what she preaches: >laughter is the best medicine. How she can still >be laughing given what she is being subjected to >is a triumph of the human spirit. >She is a trained nurse, but no longer >registered, and a qualified midwife with 22 >years of experience working with the poorest of >poor South Africans. Tine and her " best friend, " >her mother, Nelly, and associates of Health >Education Services (HES), have travelled across >the country and neighbouring states spreading >the message - no one need die of immune >deficiency. That's her heresy. >Using time-honoured ingredients from nature's >abundance and applying fundamentals of good >nutrition, Tine & Nelly have evidence from the >about 40,000 patients whose lives they have >touched that their treatment and maintenance >programme works. Even the extremely ill >invariably have been pulled back from death, >provided the programme in all its deceptively >simple components is applied with due diligence. " >AIDS does not mean death - 45 hours on film proves it >http://www.redflagsdaily.com/allen/2005_may10.html > > " David Patient is no ordinary man. Diagnosed >HIV-positive 21 years ago, the tanned South >African has the confidence of a man who knows >that every day he defies medical odds just by >being alive. He doesn't take anti-retroviral >drugs, and puts his longevity down to a tough >dietary regime and an unbending will to live. " >South African defies AIDS through diet, will to live, 27 June 2004 >http://www.journ-aids.org/reports/20040627a.htm > " Hi there. David Patient here from SA. >John, send me your mailing address and I'll get a copy of our book, >Positive Health, 4th edition, out to you. There are currently 12 million >copies of the book in circulation in 16 languages, including Arabic. >In the book, which is purely based in African realities and part of >what we do is explore are all the foods a person needs to maintain a >healthy immune system. It is based on our extensive research and years >of field work in places like SA, Kenya, Eritrea, Mozambique, Swaziland, >Lesotho and Tanzania and we look at local foods and how to prepare them >and even grow them more effectively. " >http://www.pronutrition.org/archive/200410/msg00027.php >First Person An article by David Patient, South Africa >http://www.altheal.org/testimonies/dpatient1.htm -- The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition. 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