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U.S. Engaging in Nuclear War

 

 

 

 

U.S. Engaging in Nuclear War

Monday 30th May 2005 (20h28):

www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news03.htm

 

 

 

Depleted Uranium: A Scientific Perspective

 

An Interview With LEUREN MORET, Geoscientist

Interview Conducted By W. Leon Smith and Nathan Diebenow

 

Leuren Moret is a geoscientist who works almost around the clock

educating citizens, the media, members of parliaments and Congress

and other officials on radiation issues. She became a whistleblower

in 1991 at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after witnessing fraud

on the Yucca Mountain Project. She is currently working as an

independent citizen scientist and radiation specialist in

communities around the world, and contributed to the U.N.

subcommission investigating depleted uranium. According to Wikipedia

online encyclopedia, Moret testified at the International Criminal

Tribunal for Afghanistan in Japan in 2003, presented at the World

Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference in Hamburg, Germany, and spoke

at the World Court of Women at the World Social Forum in Bombay,

India, in January 2004.

 

THE INTERVIEW

 

ICONOCLAST: What are the latest developments with reducing depleted

uranium exposures on U.S. troops?

 

MORET: A young veteran named Melissa Sterry of Connecticut has

introduced a bill into the Connecticut Legislature requiring

independent testing of returning Afghan and Gulf War veterans going

back to 2001. She said that she did it because she's sick, and her

friends are dead, and that's from serving in the 2003 conflict. I

have been following the bill and talking to her. Yesterday, she

testified twice at the United Nations. I said, " Why don't we get

this bill all over the U.S. in state legislatures because it informs

the public and get the local media to cover it. " The U.S. has

blocked any accountability at international and national levels.

There's a total cover-up just like with Agent Orange, the atomic

veterans, MKULTRA, the mind control experiments the CIA did. This is

more of the same, but the issue is much, much worse because the

genetic future of all those contaminated is effected. Now vast

regions around our world, as well as our atmosphere, are

contaminated with the depleted uranium. They've used so much. It's

the equivalent number of atoms, as the Japanese professor calculated

it, to over 400,000 Nagasaki bombs that has been released into the

atmosphere. That's really an underestimate.

 

I went to Louisiana in April. I was invited to speak at the

University of New Orleans for three days. One of the veterans asked

me to be in their April 19 protest and rally through the City of New

Orleans. He took the Connecticut bill straight to the Legislature,

and he got two legislators to sponsor it, and he said, " Just

whiteout the name `Connecticut' and write in `Louisiana' on the

bill. " You're not going to believe it. It passed 101 to 0 yesterday

in the Louisiana House.

 

I want you to write about it because we want it (the DU testing

bill) in Texas. Nevada is going to introduce it. Congressman Jim

McDermott is going to put it into the Washington legislature. We

want to get the governor of Montana to do it because he's the first

governor to demand his National Guard be returned. I think half of

them are back. He said, " I need them in the state. " The DU issue is

just really, really, really, really so awful. I don't think there's

any greater tragedy in the history of the world in what they've done.

 

ICONOCLAST: Is there a danger of depleted uranium, being used in

weaponry over there, spreading by air over here?

 

MORET: The atmosphere globally is contaminated with it. It's

completely mixed in one year. I'm an expert on atmospheric dust. I'm

a geoscientist, a geologist, and that's what I studied and did my

research on. It's really a fascinating subject. We have huge dust

storms that are a million square miles and transport millions of

tons of dust and sand every year around the world. The main centers

of these dust storms are the Gobi Desert in China, which is where

the Chinese did atmospheric testing, so that's all contaminated with

radiation, and it gets transported right over Japan, and it comes

straight across the Pacific and dumps all its sand and dust on the

U.S., North America. It's loaded with radioactive isotopes, soot,

pesticides, chemicals, pollution -- everything is in it -- fungi,

bacteria, viruses.

 

The Sahara Desert is another huge dust center, and it goes up all

over Europe and straight across the Atlantic, to the Caribbean, and

up the East Coast. Of course, you get it in Texas with those

hurricanes. They all originate in the Sahara Desert.

 

The third region is the Western United States, which is where the

Nevada test site is located. We did 1,200 nuclear weapons tests

there, so all this radiation that is already there, which is bad

enough, has caused a global cancer epidemic since 1945. All of that

radiation was the equivalent of 40,000 Nagasaki bombs. We're talking

about 10 times more.

 

In April of 2003, the World Health Organization said they expect

global cancer rates to increase 50 percent by the year 2020.

 

Infant mortality is going up again all over the world. This is an

indicator of the level of radioactive pollution.

 

When the U.S. and Russia signed the partial test ban treaty in 1963,

the infant mortality rate started dropping again, which is normal.

Now they are going up again. It's the global pollution with this

radiation.

 

ICONOCLAST: I had one of our correspondents send me a series of

photographs of the Al-Asad dust storm in Iraq on April 28.

 

MORET: That dust is what I'm talking about.

 

ICONOCLAST: In the picture you can see a gigantic wall of sand.

 

MORET: I have 16 pictures of that storm. They're posted with photos

from Iraqi doctors of the children of people with cancer and

leukemia. So what did you think of that dust storm?

 

ICONOCLAST: I thought it was really dramatic.

 

MORET: It remobilizes all the radiation, but those are the larger

chunks. The DU burns at such high temperatures. It's a pyroforic

metal which means it burns. The bullets and big caliber shells are

actually on fire when they come out of the gun barrel because they

are ignited by the friction in the gun barrel. Seventy percent of

the DU metal becomes a metal vapor. It's actually a radioactive gas

weapon and a terrain contaminant.

 

I'll email you the URL of the 1943 memo to General Leslie Grove

under the Manhattan Project. It's the blueprint for depleted

uranium. They dropped the atomic bombs, but they did not use the DU

weapons because they thought they were too horrific.

 

I've toured and gone all over Japan with a pediatrician in Basra and

an oncologist, a cancer specialist. These poor doctors -- their

whole families are dying of cancer. He has 10 members of his family

with cancer now that he's treating, and this is just from Gulf War

I. They've used much, much, much more in 2003. All over the whole

country.

 

ICONOCLAST: What can soldiers expect when they come home?

 

MORET: If they were in Bradley Fighting Vehicles, they're coming

home with rectal cancer from sitting on ammunition boxes. The young

women are reporting terrible problems with endometriosis. That's the

lining of the uterus malfunctioning, and they just bleed and bleed

and bleed. Some of them have uterine cancer -- 18 and 19 and 20 year

olds. The Army will not even diagnose it. They send them back to the

battlefields. They won't treat them or diagnose them. A group of 20

soldiers pushed from Kuwait to Baghdad in 2003 in all the fighting.

Eight of those 20 soldiers have malignancies.

 

ICONOCLAST: Does exposure to depleted uranium effect their

psychological background when they come home?

 

MORET: Depleted uranium are these particles that form at very high

temperatures. They are uranium oxides that are insoluble. They are

at least 100 times smaller than a white blood cell, so when the

soldiers breathe, they inhale them. The particles go through the

nose, go through the olfactory and into the brain, and it messes up

their cognitive abilities, thought processes. It damages their mood-

control mechanism in the brain. Four soldiers at Fort Bragg came

back from Afghanistan, and within two months, those four had

murdered their wives. This is part of the damage to the brain from

the radiation and the particles.

 

The soldiers from Gulf War I in a group of 67 soldiers who came

back, they had DU in their equipment, in their clothes, in their

bodies, in their semen, and they had normal babies before they went

over there to war. They came back, and the VA did a study. Of 251

Gulf War I veterans in Mississippi, in 67 percent of them, thier

babies born after the war were deemed to have severe birth defects.

They had brains missing, arms and legs missing, organs missing. They

were born without eyes. They had horrible blood diseases. It's

horrific. If you want to look at something, Life magazine did a

photo essay which is still on the Internet. It's called " The Tiny

Victims of Desert Storm. " You should look at that -- oh, my God, the

post-Gulf War babies playing with their brothers and sisters who are

normal. Basically, it's like smoking crack, only you're smoking

radioactive crack. It goes straight into the blood stream. It's

carried all throughout the body into the bones, the bone marrow, the

brain. It goes into the fetus. It's a systemic poison and a

radiological poison.

 

ICONOCLAST: What about the people in the United States that are

here? You say that DU is being mixed and spread globally?

 

MORET: Yes, it's being mixed globally. We're getting secondary

smoke. It's the secondary smoke effect. You know the people who

inhabit a room with smokers? They are getting that secondary smoke,

and so are we.

 

ICONOCLAST: Is that secondary smoke getting thicker as we speak?

 

MORET: Yeah, the concentration of the depleted uranium particles in

the atmosphere all around the globe is increasing. There are

indications that the U.S. will go in June and bomb the heck out of

Iran. We're monitoring the U.S. Army ammunition factories. They have

very large orders for those huge bunker buster bombs that have 5,000

lbs. of DU in the warhead.

 

ICONOCLAST: So the prognosis for America isn't really good?

 

MORET: No, it's really bad.

 

ICONOCLAST: And if this continues then?

 

MORET: It's going to kill off the world's population. It already is,

and it doesn't just effect people. It effects all living systems.

The plants, the animals, the bacteria. It effects everything.

 

ICONOCLAST: So the things that we eat for instance, if they have DU

in them, then we'll just get it in our systems, and so we're

polluting the oceans, so that could effect all marine life?

 

MORET: Yes, it's in the air, water, and soil. The half- life of DU,

Uranium 238, is 4.5 billion years the age of the Earth.

 

ICONOCLAST: With the damage that's been done to this point, can we

turn back? We can't clean it up?

 

MORET: There's no way to clean it up. What happens is these tiny

particles float around the Earth. There are still plutonium and

uranium floating around the Earth from bomb testing. These particles

are so tiny that molecules bumping into them keep them lofted in the

air, and so the only way for them to get out of the atmosphere is

rain, snow, fog, pollution, which will clear them out of the air and

deposit them in the environment. What happens is the surface of

these particles gets wetted by the moisture in the air. They come

down and land on stuff and stick to it like a glue. You can't ever

get the particles off whatever they're sticking to because have you

ever put a drop of water on a microscope slide and then put another

one on top of it? Can you pull those apart?

 

ICONOCLAST: No.

 

MORET: Okay, that's the same effect that happens to radioactive

particles. Once they are removed from the atmosphere, they stick to

any surfaces they land on. In a way they are removed from

circulation from the atmosphere. You can't wash them off. If it

keeps raining or they're in a creek, you know, if they're on rocks

or stones or something in a creek, they won't even wash off. You

didn't know it was this bad, did you?

 

ICONOCLAST: No, I knew it was bad, but I thought it was fairly

isolated.

 

MORET: No. What is over there (in Iraq) is over here in about four

days. I don't know if you followed Chernobyl. That big bubble of

radiation went around and around the world, but this is dust. It

becomes a part of atmospheric dust. Like the dust storm you saw in

that photo, it goes everywhere.

 

ICONOCLAST: Is it in the upper levels of the atmosphere or the lower

levels?

 

MORET: It's in lower orbital space. They brought the Mir spacecraft

back down to Earth when they got done using it, and there was

something called a space midge which covered the electronics on the

outside of the spacecraft and protected it from radiation that comes

from the sun because electronics are real vulnerable to radiation.

They analyzed the surface of that space net and found uranium and

uranium decayed products which they said came from atmospheric

testing or burned up spacecraft with nuclear materials or nuclear

reactors on board. Uranium can also come from supernovas, but they

thought that the most likely sources were atmospheric testing and

the nuclear materials we put in space.

 

ICONOCLAST: Essentially then, you're saying that we're conducting a

nuclear war.

 

MORET: Yes, and that's exactly what it is. We've conducted four

nuclear wars since 1991. Yeah, these are nuclear wars. DU is a

nuclear weapon.

 

ICONOCLAST: From the point of view of a scientist, what needs to

happen to correct this?

 

MORET: Well, we need to stop the use of it. We've built an

international movement to stop the use, the manufacture, the

storage, the sales, and the deployment of depleted uranium weapons.

 

ICONOCLAST: Are the munitions we sell to other countries contained

with depleted uranium?

 

MORET: We have. In 1968 the first depleted uranium weapons systems

that we found a patent for suddenly appeared in the U.S. patent

office. It was for the Navy. It was sort of a Gatling gun style

weapon system that you mounted on ships. It rapidly fires like 2,500

bullets a minute. It's over 3,000 now. They've improved the design.

Then in 1973, we gave depleted uranium weapons systems to the

Israelis and supervised their use. They used them in the Arab-

Israeli war and completely wiped out the Arabs in five days. Then

the show was on the road. That was the first actual battlefield

demonstration of this new weapon system. Hughes Aircraft developed

the full-length system which is for the Navy. That's the Gatling gun

system. They still use it. That was produced in 1974 and tested.

Within six months the U.S. government had sold the DU weapons system

to 12 entities which included many branches of the U.S. military and

other counties. We've sold DU weapons systems to about -- we don't

know exactly for sure -- it's been about 12 or 17 countries. The

good news is that normally such a weapons system that effective

would have been sold to 80, 100, or 120 countries by now. But

because of the radiological, biological, and environmental hazard,

countries were not only afraid to buy it, the ones who did buy it

are afraid to use it. The only countries we know that have used DU

are Britain, the U.S., and Israel. The United Nations in 1996 passed

a resolution that depleted uranium weapons are weapons of mass

destruction, and they are illegal under all international laws and

treaties.

 

In 2001, the European Parliament passed a resolution on DU. What

happened is that the NATO forces went into Yugoslavia in 1998

and '99 and flew 39,000 bombing runs and completely bombed

Yugoslavia into radioactive rubble. Germany and the U.S. made the

most money on the destruction of Yugoslavia, and they made sure that

countries that didn't know about the DU, that the peacekeepers from

those countries like from Italy and Portugal, were sent to the most

contaminated regions in Yugoslavia. Germans and Americans didn't

send their own troops into those areas. They were in the least

contaminated areas. These poor soldiers from other countries came

back and died within weeks or in a couple of days or months. The

parents in Portugal and Italy are furious and went to the Parliament

and media, and there was just a huge media storm of articles about

DU.

 

The cat was out of the bag because of the 1998 NATO invasion of

Yugoslavia. The cat was out of the bag, but Japanese troops have

been sent into Somawa. They're self-defense forces. It was the most

contaminated area where the heaviest fighting happened in Iraq. We

can expect those soldiers to be really, really sick.

 

ICONOCLAST: What about Iraq itself? What's been done thus far?

 

MORET: It's uninhabitable. The whole country. Yugoslavia, Iraq, and

Afghanistan are completely uninhabitable.

 

ICONOCLAST: But people live there, so they're going to live there

suffering?

 

MORET: Well, you can see from the birth defects and the illnesses

that it is pretty severe. Each year the number of birth defects and

illnesses will rise because of the total contamination levels in all

living things will increase because they are breathing that air and

drinking water and eating the food from contaminated soils. It's

just a slow death sentence. The same with Yugoslavia and Afghanistan.

 

Depleted uranium is a very, very, very effective biological weapon.

This is the primary purpose for using it. Marion Falk (a retired

chemical physicist who built nuclear bombs for more than 20 years at

Lawrence Livermore lab), who is the Manhattan Project scientist I

work with, taught me pretty much everything about radiation and

particles and DU. He said the purpose of weapons used by the

military is not only to injure and kill the enemy soldiers, but the

purpose is to kill, maim, and disease the civilian population

because it reduces the productivity of a country and pretty soon a

lot of their resources are going to be used for taking care of sick

people. They will have fewer and fewer healthy workers.

 

Of course, once you cause mutation in the DNA, that damage is passed

on to future generations of that affected person or animal or plant.

DNA does not repair itself.

 

ICONOCLAST: So the mutations would be probably destructive moreso

than constructive.

 

MORET: Oh, the mutations are causing those birth defects.

 

ICONOCLAST: They're not evolutionary diseases?

 

MORET: No, they are evolutionary. They are inherited by all future

generations and passed on. It's like if you have red hair and all of

your future generations will have that gene.

 

ICONOCLAST: So if I had a precondition to heart disease because of

the radiation, then the generation that would come after me would

have the same problem?

 

MORET: Well, if you damage the cell or parts of the cell or

functioning of cells, that doesn't necessarily damage the DNA. There

are two kinds of damage: one damages the cells of the living

organism, and that may not be passed on, but if you damage the DNA

in the egg or the sperm, that is passed on to all future generations.

 

ICONOCLAST: So the guys coming back from the war, their sperm is

probably going to be --

 

MORET: Damaged. Yes. They also have depleted uranium in their semen.

When they're intimate with their partners, they internally

contaminate them with depleted uranium. The women become sick

themselves. They have depleted uranium in their bodies, and there is

something called burning syndrome. Just absolutely horrible. You can

read about it in an article by David Rose in the December Vanity

Fair. It's on the Internet. A friend of mine is the widow of a

Canadian Gulf War veteran. David Rose interviewed her, and she

griped about the burning semen. She said, " I had 20 condoms full of

frozen peas in my freezer at all times, and after we were intimate,

I would insert one into my vagina, and that is the only way I could

bear the pain from the burning semen. " And it goes through condoms,

too.

 

ICONOCLAST: Gosh, durn!

 

MORET: Yeah, you should see the high school classes when I talk

about the burning semen and the internal contamination. The girls'

mouths go into little round Os, and the boys start panicking because

they're like, " I'll never get sick! " (laughs) The name of this

article is " Weapons of Self-Destruction. "

 

ICONOCLAST: How much DU will it take to kill off all known life on

this planet?

 

MORET: The amount of radiation released is certainly going to have a

very, very profound global impact, and we're already seeing infant

mortality increasing globally. The fetus is the most susceptible to

radiation damage because all the cells are rapidly dividing, the

limbs and the bodies developing, so when you start introducing toxic

chemicals and radiation, it really damages the natural process of

fetal development.

 

The reason they were able to convince the Senate to sign the partial

test ban treaty in 1963 was because of the increase in infant

mortality. It had been dropping and declining two or three percent

for quite a long time each year because of better prenatal care and

educating mothers. Infant mortality started going up after the bombs

were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, especially in the `50s when

the big bomb testing started. By 1963, it was really obvious that

the bomb testing globally was having a real impact on the unborn.

They signed the partial test ban treaty. Russia and the U.S. stopped

atmospheric testing, and the infant mortality rate started going

down right away. They're going up again now. This is global

radioactive pollution, and how long it would take to eliminate all

life is something nobody knows, but the depleted uranium is a very,

very effective biological weapon.

 

There are two purposes for the military use of weapons. One is to

destroy the enemy soldiers, and the other, which is just as

important, is to destroy the enemy civilian population. By causing

illnesses and disease, long lingering illnesses really impact the

productivity and the economy of a country. It was Chernobyl and

other nuclear disasters that actually destroyed the Soviet Union

because the former Soviet Union is very, very sick from all the

radiation that was released. They were much more sloppier than we

were. I have a World Health Organization world health survey which

they published in the Journal of American Medical Association last

June. The impact of atmospheric testing is very, very apparent by

the percentage of population in each country they investigated for

some form of mental illness. For instance, Japan is 8.8 percent.

Nigeria is very low -- 4.7 percent. They have almost no radiation in

Nigeria. In the Ukraine where they had the Chernobyl accident, it is

20.4 percent. Spain is at 9.2 percent. Italy is 8.2 percent. It's

pretty low because they don't have nuke plants. France is 75 percent

reliant on nuclear power, so you have mental illness in 18.4 percent

of the population. Mexico is at 12.2 percent, and the United States

is at 26.3 percent -- the highest rate of mental illness in the

world.

 

And George Bush and his siblings were all exposed in utero to bomb

testing fallout in the United States. He had a toddler sister who

died of leukemia when she was about three. I worked with a group

called the Radiation And Public Health Project. Their website is .

We are all radiation specialists, well-known scientists, and

independent scientists. We've collected 6,000 baby teeth around

nuclear power plants and measured the radiation in them, and one of

our members is the neighbor of the women who worked with all of the

Bush children, including President Bush himself, because they had

severe learning disabilities.

 

ICONOCLAST: How do we know that the Bush children were exposed?

 

MORET: By the year of their birth. The year they were carried by

their mother. You have to look at how much bomb testing material was

released into the atmosphere, and there's a direct correlation to

the decline in SAT scores for all teenagers in the U.S. to the

amount of radiation that was released into the atmosphere the year

their mother was carrying them. These are delayed effects of

radiation exposure in utero.

 

ICONOCLAST: So they were living in Connecticut, but they were still

feeling the effects of the radiation in Nevada?

 

MORET: Two years ago the U.S. government admitted that every single

person living in the United States between 1957 and 1963 was

internally exposed to radiation. So for any pregnant woman during

those years, her fetus was exposed.

 

ICONOCLAST: What type of radiation levels are we talking about?

 

MORET: It's low levels, and the main pathways are drinking water and

dairy products. It even killed the baby fish in the Atlantic.

Strontium-90 is a man-made isotope that comes out of nuclear bombs

and nuclear reactors. They measured the levels of strontium-90 in

milk in Norway from the 1950s up until the 1970s, and they measured

the decline in the fishing catch in that same period, and as the

strontium-90 increased in the milk in Norway, fishing catches

declined. By 1963, when the U.S. tested a nuclear bomb almost every

day (they did 250 tests in one year because the treaty was going to

be signed), the fishing catch declined by 50 percent. In the

Pacific, it declined 60 percent because there was Russian, Chinese,

French, and U.S. testing in the Pacific.

 

ICONOCLAST: So we're still eating those contaminated fish today. Has

the genetic code been changed?

 

MORET: The oceans are getting whatever is getting rained down,

snowed down, or fogged down from the atmosphere. It's getting into

the oceans. This big frog die-off, which is global, is certainly

related to the radiation in the rainwater. It's a global nuclear

holocaust. It effects all living things. That's why they call

it " omnicide, " which means it kills all living things -- the plants,

the animals, the bacteria. Everything.

 

ICONOCLAST: You think we ought to have the Weather Channel report on

the current sand storm conditions in Iraq so we can prepare four

days in advance for the radiation?

 

MORET: I'll tell you what I did when 9/11 happened. I called all the

doctors with Radiation And Public Health Project, and I said, " Get

out of town, and don't come back until it has rained three times. "

One lived 12 miles downwind from the Pentagon. She went out on her

balcony with her geiger counter. I said, " Get that geiger counter

out of your purse. " We had just done a press conference in San

Francisco, and I knew she had it in her purse. Well, the radiation

levels were 8-10 times higher than background. We called the EPA,

HAZMAT, FBI, and said, " Get all those emergency response workers

suited up. They need to be protected. " Two days after 9/11, the EPA

radiation expert for that region called back and said, " Yup, the

Pentagon crash rubble was radioactive, and we believe it's depleted

uranium, but we're not worried about that. It's only harmful if it's

inhaled. " He said, " We're worried about the lead solder in the

plane. " Well, you know what's in Tomahawk missiles? They have

depleted uranium warheads. The radioactive crash rubble contaminated

with DU is evidence of a DU warhead.

 

ICONOCLAST: I did not think about that, but going back to my

original question: Should the Weather Channel report for us on the

toxic dust storms in Iraq?

 

MORET: But how could people get away from them? These dust storms

are a million square miles. They're huge, and they come right across

the Atlantic, the Caribbean, and Texas coast line, and right up the

East Coast. There are people who are going to leave the state every

time there's a hurricane It's in the food, drinking water, dairy

products, and then the problem with Uranium 238, which is 99.39

percent DU, is that it decays in over 20 steps into other

radioactive isotopes. That's why I call it the " Trojan Horse. " It's

the weapon that keeps giving. It keeps killing. This is like smoking

radioactive crack. It goes right in your nose. It crosses the

olfactory bulb into your brain. It's a systemic poison. It goes

everywhere. These particles that form at very high temperatures --

5,000-10,000 degrees C -- are nanoparticles. They are a 10th of a

micron or smaller. A 10th of a micron is 100 times smaller than a

white blood cell. They get picked up in the lipids and probably the

cholesterol and go right through the cell membranes of the cell.

They screw up the cell processes. They screw up the signaling

between the cells because the cells all talk to each other and

coordinate what they're doing. It messes up brain function.

 

ICONOCLAST: Do you know what Iraq was like before the first Gulf War?

 

MORET: Iraq prior to the 1991 Gulf War was the most advanced in the

entire Middle East. They had scrupulous databases of the health

problems and disease rates, which is why the U.S. bombed all of the

offices in the Ministry of Health. We destroyed all those records so

that a pre-Gulf War health base could not be established to show how

much these diseases have increased. This would concern the U.S. in

terms of compensation for war crimes. In these horrible U.N.

sanctions, they (the Iraqis) could never get all of the protocol

medicine for the treatment of leukemia. They (the U.N.) would

say, " These steps of the leukemia treatment were components in

weapons, so you can't have that. " They never gave the people the

full proper protocols in the areas of treatment they needed to get

rid of the leukemia. It hid the effects of the depleted uranium

because the children were starving. They had malnutrition. They had

the healthiest population in the Middle East (prior to Gulf War I).

 

ICONOCLAST: Let's talk about the children of Iraq.

 

MORET: After the Gulf War, they had maybe one baby a week born with

birth defects in the hospitals in Basra. Now they are having 10-12 a

day. The levels of uranium are increasing in the population every

year. Every day, people are eating and drinking while the whole

environment is contaminated. Just what you'd expect. There are more

babies born with birth defects, and the birth defects are getting

more and more severe. An Iraqi doctor told me that babies are being

born now that are lumps of flesh. She said that they don't have

heads or legs or arms. It's just a lump of flesh. This also happened

to populations that were not removed from islands in the Pacific

when the bomb tests occurred. Basically, governments were using them

as guinea pigs.

 

ICONOCLAST: So all the countries that were equipped with nuclear

weapons are guilty of those atrocities.

 

MORET: They were all doing it. France, Russia. China, and the U.S.

And I'm not sure if Britain did bomb testing. They were real low key

about it.

 

ICONOCLAST: Where are the radiation hot spots in the United States?

 

MORET: In the United States, it would be within a 100 miles of

nuclear power plants. We have 110 nuclear power plants in the U.S.

We have the most of any country in the world, but only a 103 are

operating. Almost all of the entire East Coast. What we did was we

took government data from the Centers of Disease Control on breast

cancer deaths between 1985 and 1989. Anywhere from within a 100

miles of a nuclear power plant is where two-thirds of all breast

cancer deaths occurred in the U.S. between 1985 and 1989.

 

It's also around the nuclear weapons laboratories. That would be Los

Alamos in New Mexico, the Idaho Nuclear Engineering Lab in Idaho,

and Hanford in Washington State, which is where they got the

plutonium for all the bombs. They contaminated the entire Columbia

River watershed and almost the whole state of Washington. It gets

into the water and into the plants and into the vegetation. If you

eat clams or mussels or crabs or things like that, even certain

kinds of fish that eat off of the mud at the bottom of the river,

you have much higher levels of radiation in your tissues. It depends

on each person and on how healthy they are, but this man from

Washington State died suddenly. He was in his late 40s. They did an

autopsy, and he was full of radioactive zinc. They went, " Where in

the world did he get this? It only comes from nuclear bombs and

nuclear reactors. " They studied his diet and discovered he loved to

eat oysters. They found out where he bought his oysters and found

the oyster beds. They were 200 miles off shore, from Washington

State. The radiation was being carried off out to sea from the

coastline. It was passing over this oyster bed. The oysters were

just gobbling them up.

 

ICONOCLAST: What are the symptoms of DU poisoning?

 

MORET: Soldiers on the battlefield have reported a metallic taste in

their mouth. That's the actual taste of the uranium metal. Then

within 24-48 hours, soldiers on the battlefield have reported that

they felt sick. They start getting muscle aches, and they lose

energy. Some of them came back incontinent. In other words, in adult

diapers.

 

One woman reported that the first night home, she wanted to be

intimate with her husband, but she had absolutely no feeling. She

couldn't feel anything from the waist down. This particulate matter

damages the neuromuscular system, the nerves; it just goes

everywhere. And there's no treatment for it. These particles are

very, very insoluble, so they can't even dissolve in body fluids, so

they can be excreted from the body. Then they keep releasing. Even

when uranium decays, it turns into another radioactive isotope. So

it's a particle that just sits there shooting bullets until you die.

 

Another problem is that soldiers have crumbling teeth. Teeth just

start falling apart. The uranium replaces calcium in the calcium-

phosphate structure of the teeth. Some have complained about grand

mal seizures, cerebral palsy. Some diseases reported at very high

rates in Air Force and Army soldiers are Parkinson's disease, Lou

Gehrig's disease, and Hodgkin's disease. This is damage to the

mitochondria in the cells and the nerves. The mitochondria make all

the energy for the body, so when you damage mitochondria, another

symptom is chronic fatigue syndrome. There's just not enough energy

produced by the body to function normally. I found a study in the

SanDia Nuclear Weapons Laboratory employee newsletter in September

2003. They are doing major studies in mitochondrial disfunction

related to Lou Gehrig's, Hodgkin's, and Parkinson's diseases for

veterans. Since it's at a nuclear weapon's lab, they are fully aware

of the health damage.

 

ICONOCLAST: Tell me about the tests that detect for DU in the body.

 

MORET: The chromosome test in the best indicator. It's $5,000. The

urine test is a $1,000. If you test positive with the urine test,

you know you're contaminated. If you test negative, it does not mean

that you're not contaminated. It just means that you may or may not

be contaminated but enough hasn't dissolved in your blood stream to

go through your kidneys to be excreted in your urine. Anyone who

goes now cannot avoid being contaminated. Anyone. Anyone. Anyone.

Everyone who goes to the Middle East and Afghanistan will be

contaminated. The DU issue affects every single living thing on this

planet. What else has that impact? They have altered the genome for

the entire planet forever with this DU. The Pentagon people

say, " You're exaggerating or you use the uranium word to scare

people. " I don't care if people believe me or not. All I can say is

that over time what I am saying will actually be an underestimation

of the long term effects.

 

http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news03.htm

by: Leon Smith

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