Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 T Fri, 6 May 2005 23:48:54 -0700 (PDT) AB_Progressives NonPartisan EVIDENCE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN-22 STATES MACHINE FRAUD,etc Tuesday 3rd May 2005 (17h48) : NonPartisan EVIDENCE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN-22 STATES MACHINE FRAUD,etc http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5955 Tuesday 3rd May 2005 (17h48) : NonPartisan EVIDENCE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN-22 STATES MACHINE FRAUD,etc 8 comment(s). INTRO-Posting is an overview of the massive evidence/data/studies (and links to studies & websites)from numerous sources--Election Day Voter Exit Polls show Kerry Won Electoral & Popular Votes,60 NonPartisan Groups found 22+ States of systematic machine fraud with a preset default from Kerry to Bush or All Dem Ballot to All Rep Ballot plus other types fraud,precinct workers & voters in states report " machine problems " & " dirty tricks " , Pollster changes Voter Exit Polls to match the vote count on 11/3 with no data to corroborate, a dozen Professors in Statistics shocked at discrepancy between Election Day Voter Exit Polls & Vote Count analyzed the Pollster's data & urge an investigation, election officials in Florida commit vote fraud, computer fraud experts, US Rep of Congressional Judiciary Comm submits Report on Ohio,etc,etc. Most public officials don't know the extent of fraud, but millions of Americans do, and nonpartisan grps & citizens from 30 states met to share their fraud data. POSTING INCLUDES--1)Overview 2)List of Topics 3)Topics #1-#7 of summarized data, original documents,links to studies, websites. *OVERVIEW--1)Election Day Voter Exit Polls,2)Sixty Non-Partisan Grps,3)Events beginning Election Day ***ELECTION DAY VOTER EXIT POLLS The expert & originator of Election Day Voter Exit Polls, Mitofsky, was hired by the Media Consortium-Assoc Press, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNNto do the Voter Exit Polls. Mitofsky's Election Day Voter Exit Polls-of all states,4 regional zones, nationwide totals-(Weighted & Created at noon,3:59pm,7:33pm)-show Kerry won the Electoral Votes 316 (states) & Popular Vote 51%(individuals)-National Totals Kerry 51% Bush 48%. Expert pollster Zogby International did phone polls 11/1 & 11/2-Zogby's Prediction Polls-Electoral Votes-Kerry 311 Bush 213. Popular Vote with Margin of Error +/-3.2--Kerry 49.1% Bush 49.4% ***NON-PARTISAN INVESTIGATIONS Sixty non-partisan groups around the nation interested in fair elections formed a consortium to focus on the Presidential Election of 2004-(due to election 2000).They created the Election Incident Reporting System,EIRS. They collected data from 22 states, their investigations revealed widespread & systematic--machine fraud & voter disenfranchisement. Nationwide 90% of the " machine errors " favored Bush. The precincts/voters most targeted in each state were groups with a history of high majority votes for the Democratic Party. The Florida League of Conservation Voters is a member of the EIRS.The FLCV has posted data on 22 states--incl. machine fraud, " dirty tricks " , disenfranchisement--web address flcv.com/ussumall.html The EIRS main websites are votersunite.org and voteprotect.org Other non-partisan groups investigated " election day incidents " , esp.in the battleground states--incl Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, New Mexico. Kerry won the Electoral & Popular Votes in Ohio, Florida, New Mexico and other states, based on Mitofsky's Election Day Voter Exit Polls & fraud data--yet he only needed Ohio OR Florida to " officially win " . Fraud was found in Pennsylvania and other states that Kerry " officially " won,or in Bush stronghold precincts-this strategy was used to decrease Kerry's popular vote. US Rep Conyers (Dem)of the Congressional Judicial Committee was asked by US Rep Tubbs (Dem) of Ohio to hold public hearings on the election. He heard testimonies from shocked & angry voters, collected election day data,then compiled a massive report of " election incidents " & vote machine " problems " . Conyers asked the(GAO)General Accounting Office of Congress to investigate, and later to investigate all 50 states. Conyers requested Pollster Mitofsky's raw Exit Poll data-who said they belong to the media consortium. Conyers asked the media--they said they wanted to analyze them first. As of this posting they have not turned over the raw exit poll data. But someone leaked the Exit Polls to a respected news site on the internet,for the public. These Exit Polls accuracy is confirmed by Mitofsky's Post-Election Report Jan 2005. ***EVENTS BEGINNING ELECTION DAY Mitofsky's Election Day Exit Polls showed that Kerry won both the electoral & popular vote with a Nationwide Total Kerry 51% to Bush 48%. Early morning of 11/3 the mass media continued to show Kerry's national win--incl in many battleground states,like Ohio & Florida. CNN's website 11/3 at 12:21AM showed Kerry's win in Ohio State--male vote percentage Kerry 51% to Bush 49%,female vote percentage Kerry 53% to Bush 47%. Soon in the early morning of 11/3 the mass media began mixing actual vote counts into the exit poll data. Yet Exit polls are used in democracies around the world to detect fraud, so they can't be mixed with other data. 11/3 in the afternoon at 1:24PM--Mitofsky (explained later)he presumed he made a mistake since his polls didn't match the vote count,so he created a new " recalibrated poll " to match the vote count,reversing the Kerry/Bush percentages. He claimed a " weighting problem " but kept changing what the weighting problem was-too many women,then too many Democrats. Yet he'd already " recalibrated his weighting " during his election day polls--by decreasing the percentages for Democrats,women,white women, black people, and increasing the percentages for Republicans,men,white men. As you'll read soon--after the Congressional Electoral College--he submitted a Post-Election Report that said his 2004 Presidential Poll was the worst poll he's done in 20 years, but his " weighting " wasn't the problem, then he introduced a new hypothesis with no data. In response--shocked expert statisticians & mathematicians did analysis which revealed that Mitofsky had no data to corroborate changing his original poll results, and they were alarmed at the 5.5% discrepancy between his exit polls and the vote count,which was outside his " margin of error " . They said- " Officially, President Bush won November's election by 2.5%, yet exit polls showed Kerry winning by 3%. In the report released March 31st by a group of university statisticians, the odds of a discrepancy this large between the national exit poll and election results happening by accident are close to 1 in a million. " They said there was no statistical explanation to account for the discrepancy, it was near impossible in statistical terms for the discrepancy to be so large without the election vote count being suspect. After Mitofsky's Post-Election Report,they said his new hypothesis had no data to validate it,plus the data showed actually refutes his hypothesis. They again said an investigation of the election vote count was needed. The Ohio Recount was requested by the Green & Libertarian Parties.Kerry joined them to make sure all votes had been counted. The recount was undermined & blocked by Sec Of State Blackwell whose orders to local election officials broke state & federal election laws,so the areas most suspected of vote fraud, were never counted. Plus provisional ballots that were added by the NAACP & other groups to ensure fair elections were never counted in some areas of Ohio & other states. The Ohio Recount is now under investigation. January 6,2005 was the historic Congressional Electoral College debate--brought about by the heartcourage pleas of 23 Reps(Dem) & 1 Senator(Dem)trying to block the Ohio electoral votes. But there was no investigation by Congress--so once again We The People were denied our choice of President. Jan 19,2005 Mitofsky's Post-Election Report of his exit polls--confirmed that his Election Day Voter Exit Polls showed Kerry won Electoral & Popular Votes--National Total Kerry 51% Bush 48%. He said Kerry's vote was " overrepresented in 26 states by 1% or more and overepresented by 3% nationally " . He said his Pres Election 2004 was the worst poll he's done in 20 years,but his polling for federal & state races was good. He said his weighting wasn't the problem, the problem related to the " Within Precinct Error " , a new hypothesis with no new data--that Democrat voters answered the exit poll interviewers in higher numbers than the Republican voters. He also states that his exit polls aren't intended to be actual exit polls,and so he doesn't use them alone--he adjusts them with the vote count. (this means the US public has no way to verify elections.) Expert statisticians again responded, refuting his new hypothesis citing no statistical basis,and revealing that his data may prove the opposite, that Republicans voters responded to interviewers in higher numbers. So once again they asked for an investigation of the vote count. ******LIST OF TOPICS**************************************************** *1)ELECTION DAY for VOTERS--Citizens calls reveal machine problems, disenfranchisement,harrassment. Several methods of fraud revealed that repeated in all states-a few examples. *2)ZOGBY EXPERT POLLSTER-Phone Polls 11/1,11/2 Election Day-(states,nation) Electoral-KERRY 311 BUSH 213 Popular-Kerry 49.1% Bush 49.4%,MOE +/-3.2% BATTLEGROUND STATES LISTED--FOR KERRY/BUSH OR TOO CLOSE TO CALL *3)MITOFSKY/EDISON ELECTION DAY EXIT POLLS for MEDIA-(states,4zones,national) *11/2--National Voter Exit Polls-KERRY WON-Electoral 316 Popular Votes 51% *11/2--Natl Exit Polls 3:59PM KERRY 51% BUSH 48% *11/2--Natl Exit Polls 7:33PM KERRY 51% BUSH 48% *11/3 1:24PM Mitofsky says later he believed his exit polls must be wrong,so he created another " poll " to match the vote counts,which reversed Kerry/Bush percentages.Mitofsky keeps changing his mind what the problem is to justify changing his 11/2 Voter Exit Polls,2 months later he introduces a new hypothesis with no data to justify. *4)ANALYSIS/STUDIES by STATISTICIANS--LINKS TO FREEMAN STUDY,and USCOUNTVOTES STUDIES-plus an overview letter by Statisticians. Non-Partisan Studies by expert Statisticians/Mathematicians shocked by Mitofsky changes in Exit Poll with no data to verify,because the 5.5%difference is unexplainable and almost impossible in statistical terms so they recommend investigation of vote count. *5)INTERNATIONAL ELECTION MONITORS REPORT of US Primary Election 2004,says US Election System is distressed & recommendations to bring up to International Standards-cites partisanship of Election Officials & makers of Vote Machines. Say if fraud ever occured would never know because no paper trails & thus no ability to recount. *6)NEW ELECTRONIC VOTE and SCAN MACHINES w/NO PAPER TRAIL--Machine Fraud Examples.Conflict of Interest-all machines created & owned by Republicans who donate heavily to Bush Campaign.Note-one company makes Bank ATMS with paper trails. Note-prior to Election 2004 these machines were widely-proven to be easily hacked to change Vote Counts & Totals. Calif tried to outlaw most. *7)Before Election 2004-Legislation Created to Outlaw New Machines with no paper trails or to demand paper trails-BUT Republican Legislators kill Bill. CURRENT EVENTS-Investigation of Ohio Recount just begun. US Rep Conyers & other(D)legislators creating election reform bills--yet many®legislators are likely to block,despite International Election Monitors recommendations. US needs election reform in many areas so US Elections are trustworthy and meet International Standards for democracies. **********TOPICS #1-#7 DISCUSSED BELOW*********************************** FOR OWN RESEARCH USE SOLARBUS.ORG for links to studies/data/info/websites *1)ELECTION DAY for CITIZENS reveals Machine Fraud & Disenfranchisement State & local elected officials in charge of elections in all the battleground states knew there would be a larger than ever voter turnout, due to the Get Out The Vote efforts by non-partisan groups & the Democratic Party & Republican Party. So officials knew to be prepared and are required to be prepared. Republican Leaders had made it public that they would challenge new Democratic voters at the polls, so the Dem Party & civil rights activists & nonpartisan groups went into the states to prepare people with right to vote facts. The ACLU & NAACP had to bring lawsuits in some areas before election day to ensure citizens their rights to vote. Also many disenfranchisement " dirty tricks " were discovered,for example: Registration forms of new Democratic voters,in several states,were torn up by Republican-payed workers and the Republicans in charge of signing up new voters. Leaflets were found in several states saying that due to high voter turnout--Democrat voters should vote on 11/3 and Republican Voters should vote on 11/2(election day). ON ELECTION DAY in many states in predominately Democratic precincts voters and even local election officials felt frustrated and angry that they didn't have enough machines,or the machines were broken,or the lines were too long with not enough machines, or that the machines wouldn't cast their vote correctly,or that they weren't on the voter rolls,or that they were told to go to the wrong precinct. Through citizen complaints & investigations by non-partisan groups it was revealed that most of the battleground states especially Ohio & Florida & New Mexico had widespread & systematic voter disenfranchisement and machine fraud--there were several methods used,and the methods were the same in each state. One primary method for fraud was vote machines on a " default setting " --so despite voting for Kerry or an entire Democratic Ticket,the machine would flip to a Bush Vote. Some voters tried over & over to change this. Some voters reported the screen finally verified a Kerry vote,but when they got to the end page to reconfirm ballot,it showed Bush. 90% of the " machine errors " from all states favored Bush. Which statisticians say is not random,and thus highly suspect. There are many exit poll & election analysis reports done by professors in mathematics & statistics,and studies by computer experts on fraud & tampering,plus citizen testimonies & affadavits from Ohio & Florida. In Florida & Ohio-A few Florida local election officials were seen throwing away the official vote count tapes for election day,replacing them with new tapes with new vote count numbers. The Sec Of States in Ohio & Florida were hostile to freedom of information requests by groups trying to gather public data. The Sec of State in Ohio, Blackwell,in his elected position to administer the Ohio elections & the recount,gave orders that violated state & federal rules for fair elections. Both the Ohio & Florida Sec of States were Chairpersons for the Bush Campaign,which the International Election Monitors say is a US practice in conflict with International Standards for democracies. *2)EXPERT POLLSTER ZOGBY-Telephone Polls 11/1 & 11/2 Election Day Below-ELECTORAL VOTES,POPULAR VOTE,plus ELECTORAL IN BATTLEGROUND STATES Zogby International Washington,DC,USA Released:November 02,2004. Nationwide phone poll of 955 likely voters conducted November 1-2, 2004. Also online interactive polls 11/1 ZOGBY INTERNATIONAL 2004 PREDICTIONS,as of Nov. 2, 2004 5:00pm 2004 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ELECTORAL VOTES: Bush 213 Kerry 311 Too Close To Call Nevada (5) Too Close To Call Colorado (9) ZOGBY POPULAR VOTE PERCENTAGES with Margin of Error +/- 3.2% BUSH at 49.4%, KERRY at 49.1% ZOGBY 2004 BATTLEGROUND STATES: ELECTORAL VOTES FOR--KERRY OR BUSH Arizona-Bush , Arkansas-Bush , Colorado-Too Close To Call ,Florida-Trending Kerry , Iowa-Kerry , Michigan-Kerry, Minnesota-Kerry , Missouri-Bush, Nevada-Too Close To Call, New Hampshire-Kerry, New Mexico-Kerry , North Carolina-Bush Oregon-Kerry, Ohio-Trending Kerry , Pennsylvania-Trending Kerry ,Tennessee-Bush , Virginia-Bush , Washington-Kerry, West Virginia-Bush ,Wisconsin-Kerry *3)MITOFSKY/EDISON ELECTION DAY EXIT POLLS for Media Consortium(in pdf files) *Created 11/2--NOONTIME POLL I don't have *Created & Weighted 11/2 at 3:59PM--NATIONAL TOTAL KERRY 51%,BUSH 48% *Created & Weighted 11/2 at 7:33PM--NATIONAL TOTAL KERRY 51%,BUSH 48% *11/3 NEW " Poll " -Created & Weighted 11/3 at 1:24PM--NATIONAL TOTAL KERRY 48%,BUSH 51% IMPORTANT BACKGROUND INFO on EXIT POLLS Time of Exit Polls--Mitofsky's report says there were 3 exit polls done on election day--at noon, late afternoon, evening an hour before the polls close. I'm missing the noon poll-yet I've heard Mitofsky & others say it's common knowledge that Democrats or Dem women vote more in the morning,and Republicans or Rep men vote more in the evening. If this common knowledge is true,the noontime poll would be the same or a higher percentage for Kerry. Mitofsky's Election Day Exit Polls are done as voters leave the polls.Voters are asked by interviewers " Who did you just vote for in the Presidential Race? " They're also asked personal/social/political questions. Mitofsky developed and refined his exit poll system over the years to be a science,with much preparation work done beforehand to make sure he has the calibrations & weights correct for all demographics & variables and changes overtime. The interviewers in each state call Mitofsky with the exit poll data then he creates each poll. Exit polls are highly accurate and used around the world in democracies,to be a red flag for fraud. The Exit Polls for the US & other countries are done by Mitofsky. His work is usually very accurate and always within the stated " margin of error " . Mitofsky sold his exitpolls directly to the media consortium which hasn't seemed to be a problem before. Yet the International Election Monitors 2004 report for the US was very concerned about areas of conflict of interest & partisanship,so this may be a violation of International Standards too. For the exit polls rightly belong to the American people-so we need non-partisan expert pollsters working for the US Elections System. MITOFSKY EVENTS--ON ELECTION DAY & AFTER Mitofsky's Election Day Exit Polls showed Kerry won both the electoral & popular vote-Kerry 51% to Bush 48%. Then 11/3 at 1:24PM Mitofsky created a new poll,to match the vote counts, which shows Kerry & Bush percentages reversed. Mitofsky kept changing his reasons for why he presumed his election day polls wrong. First he focused on recalibrating the weighting,but he had already recalibrated the weight percentages in his election day polls, plus in his " methods statements " he says gender is always a low sampling error,whereas race can be a large sampling error.Plus his website says his new 2004 stategy was to ensure not to skew for Democrats. (? this may relate to a mainstream news article where the media blamed Mitofsky for predicting the Gore win in 2000.) Mitofsky's Post-Election report said weighting wasn't the problem then came up with a new hypothesis with no new data--the Within Precinct Error. Expert statisticians analyzed Mitofsky's data and said he didn't overweight for Democrats,in fact they saw evidence he may have overweighted for Republicans,so the data refutes his hypothesis. The experts were deeply concerned that the new Polls were outside his " margin of error " --for by switching the Kerry/Bush percentages there's now a 5.5% discrepancy between his exit polls and the vote count,which experts said was virtually impossible in statistical terms,no plausible excuse for the discrepancies between the exit polls & the actual vote count. Mitofsky's Post-Election Report said he overall stands by his work,the exit polls for federal & state elections, yet says his Pres. exit polls were the worst in 20 years. The statisticians say it's not probable that federal political party races were correctly polled while Presidential polls were not. Mitofsky said his exit polls are not always intended to stand alone-to be exit polls. Yet his polls use the heading-ex: " United States General Exit Poll " . He says his exit polls are often adjusted to match the actual vote count. Statisticians say this is okay if it's fine-tuning within the margin of error,but not with large discrepancies between the exit polls vs vote count. Mitofsky said he overrepresented the Kerry Vote in 26 states--translation-this probably means 26 states of fraud,not just the 22 already discovered by non-partisan groups. *4)NON-PARTISAN GROUPS--STATISTICIANS ANALYSIS **There are many non-partisan groups,professionals & experts in a variety of fields who collected & analyzed election data-including investigative journalists,computer fraud experts,and statisticans & mathematicians. **VOTERSUNITE,60 non-partisan groups in the US concerned with fair elections formed a consortium to provide a nationwide Election Incident Reporting System for Election 2004 to collect data & help voters report irregularities. They found systematic voter disenfranchisement & machine fraud in 22 states. Their website is votersunite.org **USCOUNTVOTES-A consortium of prominent statisticians & mathematicians who individually & collectively analyzed Mitofsky's Exit Polls & Post-Election Report. Below see a few studies. Newest report at- http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Mitofsky-Edison.pdf *Steven Freeman's study- " The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy " . First draft Nov 12,2004,revised Nov 21,2004 using conservative assumptions yet still concludes--focusing on the vote counts vs exit polls in 3 battleground states-- " As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible,it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error " . Last revision Dec 29, 2004,(minor changes)-in a pdf file at this web address- appliedresearch.us/sf/Documents/ExitPoll.pdf *Below-USCOUNTVOTES LETTER on STATISTICAL STUDY,A RESPONSE TO MITOFSKY USCountVotes,is a nonprofit, non-partisan Utah corporation,founded in December 2004. Its future mission is to create and analyze a database containing precinct-level election results for the entire United States beginning in Nov 2006; it's current project has been to do a thorough mathematical analysis of the 2004 election results and to fully investigate the 2004 Presidential election results. USCountVotes actively seeks volunteers and accepts donations to help make this unprecedented civic project a reality - visit www.uscountvotes.org for further information. LETTER-Prominent Statisticians Refute 'Explanation' of 2004 U.S. Exit Poll Discrepancies in New Edison/Mitofsky Report and Urge Investigation of U.S. Presidential Election Results by Bruce O'Dell January 31, 2005 " President Bush won November's election by 2.5% yet exit polls showed Kerry leading by 3%. Which was correct? " There are statistical indications that a systematic, nationwide shift of 5.5% of the vote may have occurred, and that we'll never get to the bottom of this, unless we gather the data we need for mathematical analysis and open, robust scientific debate. " , says Bruce O'Dell, USCountVotes' Vice President. The study, " Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report " , was co-authored by a diverse group of professors and academicians specializing in statistics and mathematics affiliated with University of Notre Dame, University of Pennsylvania, University of Utah, Cornell University, University of Wisconsin, Southern Methodist University, Case Western Reserve University and Temple University. Their study does not support claims made by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International that exit poll errors were to blame for the unprecedented 5.5% discrepancy between exit polls and official 2004 election results. According to this analysis by a group of senior statisticians, the new data just released by the exit-pollsters shows that the possibility that the overall vote count was substantially corrupted must be taken seriously. " Now we have statistical evidence that these reports were the tip of a national iceberg. The hypothesis that the discrepancy between the exit polls and election results is due to errors in the official election tally is a coherent theory that must be explored, " said statistician Josh Mitteldorf. Their paper titled " Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report " notes that the Edison/Mitofsky report offers no evidence to support their conclusion that Kerry voters " participated in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters " . In fact, the data provided in the Edison/Mitofsky report suggests that the opposite may have been true: Bush strongholds had slightly higher response rates than Kerry strongholds. The statisticians note that precincts with hand-counted paper ballots showed no statistical discrepancy between the exit polls and the official results, but for other voting technologies, the overall discrepancy was far larger than the polls' margin of error. The statisticians'latest study & revised April 11,2005 is available online at http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf *5)INTERNATIONAL ELECTION MONITORS travel the world to verify that democracies are maintaining International Standards for transparent & fair elections. They came to the US to monitor our 2004 Primaries because of Election 2000.The 2004 Primaries concerned them so they returned for the 2004 General Election to determine if the US was implementing reforms to match International Standards. In their report for the Primary they said the US Election System was in distress and recommended many changes.They said if fraud ever took place there would be no way of knowing because most of our new vote machines have no paper trail so recounts are impossible. Their major concerns were in the areas of partisanship & conflict of interest. For example,the US allows elected Secretary of States & Local Election Officials-responsible for monitoring elections-to also be in political campaigns. EX: OHIO Sec of State Kenneth Blackwell was also Chairman of Bush Campaign; Florida Sec Of State in 2004 & 2000 were fundraisers of Bush Campaign. The Intl Monitors were also concerned that our vote machine companies are partisan, all owned by Republicans who are major contributors to the Bush Campaign. *6)NEW ELECTRONIC VOTE MACHINES & SCANNERS: Manufactured mainly by two companies ESS & Diebold. One of these companies is the same company that makes the ATM Machines for banks,however their vote machines have no paper trails, plus it's widely known & proven by experts & laypeople that these new machines can be hacked into by anyone in just a few minutes. (The Rep Legislature killed a bill that would have outlawed these machines & required paper trails-story below.) There were 2 types of fraud on these new voting machines-1) disenfranchisement of voter/machine fraud--ex:already programmed to default for Bush 2)direct machine fraud. In Ohio,a worker for the machine manufacturer appeared unannounced in a precinct right before the recount,he worked on 2 vote machines(illegal to tamper with machines after election). The worker also told the local election official what the vote count should be,to avoid doing a recount. Election Officals in Florida were caught throwing away official computer vote tapes,and replacing them with new ones they created with new vote counts that they submitted to the State of Florida. It was discovered that the Assoc Press (part of the media consortium)had access to the central tabulator where all the votes are counted & stored. So other media groups may have also had access. These were regular-type computers that can be accessed remotely by a laptop. Also at least one machine company's workers had access. Shortly after the election, countless stories of problems with the machines began to surface. Many people tried to vote for Kerry and said that when the final confirmation screen came up it said they voted for Bush. In one precinct in Ohio, over 4,258 votes were given to Bush where there were only 638 registered voters. In addition to the touch screen machines that produce no paper trail, there is more & more evidence of problems with the " optical scanners " that were used to tabulate the results in many states. When voters fill out paper ballots these ballots were fed into the scanners to total the results. These scanners were manufactured by Diebold & ESS, and have been shown to be easily hacked. *7)Before Election LEGISLATIVE BILL-Introduced in the House & Senate to outlaw new electronic vote machines or require a paper printout of votes so they can be verified and recounted. But the bill was stalled by the Republican Party, led by House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, and it was not allowed to come to vote. by : Truthteller Tuesday 3rd May 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 We plod on, accumulating ever more damaging facts, exposes and revelations regarding the Bush administration. We must by now have amassed a mountain of Everest proportions, of this damning info. Yet, when it comes to our resources in communicating this information to the masses of Americans, we have nary a pebble. What matters is not what you uncover, but what you can publicize. Since no one spends any considerable time dealing with media, we continue hopelessly spinnng our wheels. We have the message a million times over, but there is a catastrophic absence of messenger. JP - califpacific AB_Progressives NonPartisan EVIDENCE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN-22 STATES MACHINE FRAUD,etc Tuesday 3rd May 2005 (17h48) : NonPartisan EVIDENCE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN-22 STATES MACHINE FRAUD,etc http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5955 Tuesday 3rd May 2005 (17h48) : NonPartisan EVIDENCE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN-22 STATES MACHINE FRAUD,etc 8 comment(s). INTRO-Posting is an overview of the massive evidence/data/studies (and links to studies & websites)from numerous sources--Election Day Voter Exit Polls show Kerry Won Electoral & Popular Votes,60 NonPartisan Groups found 22+ States of systematic machine fraud with a preset default from Kerry to Bush or All Dem Ballot to All Rep Ballot plus other types fraud,precinct workers & voters in states report " machine problems " & " dirty tricks " ...... (snip) ---------- Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release 5/6/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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