Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 My naturopath recommended that book, so I read it. I'm an O, also, but have been vegetarian for decades. Healthfully. That book would have light-weight me doing intense exercise, and my athletic husband doing just gentle stetches and walking. Just the opposite of what we actually need. My DH thrives on intense exercise, wheras it would do me in. I found a number of interesting points and ideas in the book, but to me they don't add up to the grand conclusions he draws. The world's oldest health care system still looks the best to me. Ayurveda. Looking through that lens, I am a Vata and so of course cannot bear intense exercise, but my Pitta husband definitely needs it. I have heard several people say that they feel better when they eat meat, but I don't think it is the meat per se that they need. I think it is the fat. I get that by eating lots of ghee. Anyway, it'd be interesting to know just WHAT people were eating and not eating when they were vegetarian, and experiment to see just what it is that was not doing them good, and just what it is that they need. Vegetarian/non-vegetarian just cover so much territory that it doesn't really mean much. Even the word " vegetarian " means a lot of different things to a lot of people. Some people think vegetarians eat everything except beef and pork. Others think it means not eating anything that came from an animal in any way, even butter or honey. And lots of people become vegetarian just by skipping what used to be the main course, but still eating the S.A.D. the very sad " standard American diet. " So making generalizations about all thils is sort of like the discussion soapers have about some folks having trouble with shampoo bars while others do not. What is IN the various shampoo bars, what kind of water do folks have, what kind of hair do they have, etc. A lot of variables would have to be looked at. This is really pretty much the same point that I was making (trying to, anyhow) the other day in the discussion about cholesterol. That it doesn't make a lot of sense to generalize based on just bits of information. Hope my intention is clear here. This IS a friendly, well-meant message! Shivani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Shivani- Sorry I missed the name of the book. Janet > My naturopath recommended that book, so I read it. I'm an O, also, but >have been vegetarian for decades. Healthfully. > That book would have light-weight me doing intense exercise, and my >athletic husband doing just gentle stetches and walking. Just the opposite >of what we actually need. My DH thrives on intense exercise, wheras it would >do me in. > I found a number of interesting points and ideas in the book, but to me >they don't add up to the grand conclusions he draws. > The world's oldest health care system still looks the best to me. >Ayurveda. Looking through that lens, I am a Vata and so of course cannot >bear intense exercise, but my Pitta husband definitely needs it. > I have heard several people say that they feel better when they eat > meat, >but I don't think it is the meat per se that they need. I think it is the >fat. I get that by eating lots of ghee. > Anyway, it'd be interesting to know just WHAT people were eating and not >eating when they were vegetarian, and experiment to see just what it is that >was not doing them good, and just what it is that they need. >Vegetarian/non-vegetarian just cover so much territory that it doesn't really >mean much. > Even the word " vegetarian " means a lot of different things to a lot of >people. Some people think vegetarians eat everything except beef and pork. >Others think it means not eating anything that came from an animal in any >way, even butter or honey. And lots of people become vegetarian just by >skipping what used to be the main course, but still eating the S.A.D. the >very sad " standard American diet. " > So making generalizations about all thils is sort of like the discussion >soapers have about some folks having trouble with shampoo bars while others >do not. What is IN the various shampoo bars, what kind of water do folks >have, what kind of hair do they have, etc. A lot of variables would have to >be looked at. > This is really pretty much the same point that I was making (trying to, >anyhow) the other day in the discussion about cholesterol. That it doesn't >make a lot of sense to generalize based on just bits of information. > Hope my intention is clear here. This IS a friendly, well-meant message! > Shivani > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hiyas Janet, The book was 'Nourishing Traditions' by Sally Fallon Hugs, Marilyn Janet Golden wrote: > Shivani- > Sorry I missed the name of the book. > Janet > > > My naturopath recommended that book, so I read it. I'm an O, also, but > >have been vegetarian for decades. Healthfully. > > That book would have light-weight me doing intense exercise, and my > >athletic husband doing just gentle stetches and walking. Just the opposite > >of what we actually need. My DH thrives on intense exercise, wheras it would > >do me in. > > I found a number of interesting points and ideas in the book, but to me > >they don't add up to the grand conclusions he draws. > > The world's oldest health care system still looks the best to me. > >Ayurveda. Looking through that lens, I am a Vata and so of course cannot > >bear intense exercise, but my Pitta husband definitely needs it. > > I have heard several people say that they feel better when they eat > > meat, > >but I don't think it is the meat per se that they need. I think it is the > >fat. I get that by eating lots of ghee. > > Anyway, it'd be interesting to know just WHAT people were eating and not > >eating when they were vegetarian, and experiment to see just what it is that > >was not doing them good, and just what it is that they need. > >Vegetarian/non-vegetarian just cover so much territory that it doesn't really > >mean much. > > Even the word " vegetarian " means a lot of different things to a lot of > >people. Some people think vegetarians eat everything except beef and pork. > >Others think it means not eating anything that came from an animal in any > >way, even butter or honey. And lots of people become vegetarian just by > >skipping what used to be the main course, but still eating the S.A.D. the > >very sad " standard American diet. " > > So making generalizations about all thils is sort of like the discussion > >soapers have about some folks having trouble with shampoo bars while others > >do not. What is IN the various shampoo bars, what kind of water do folks > >have, what kind of hair do they have, etc. A lot of variables would have to > >be looked at. > > This is really pretty much the same point that I was making (trying to, > >anyhow) the other day in the discussion about cholesterol. That it doesn't > >make a lot of sense to generalize based on just bits of information. > > Hope my intention is clear here. This IS a friendly, well-meant message! > > Shivani > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Thanks Big M, from the deep south. Ha! Just could not resist. Janet >Hiyas Janet, > >The book was 'Nourishing Traditions' by Sally Fallon > >Hugs, > >Marilyn > >Janet Golden wrote: > > > Shivani- > > Sorry I missed the name of the book. > > Janet > > > > > My naturopath recommended that book, so I read it. I'm an O, > also, but > > >have been vegetarian for decades. Healthfully. > > > That book would have light-weight me doing intense exercise, and my > > >athletic husband doing just gentle stetches and walking. Just the > opposite > > >of what we actually need. My DH thrives on intense exercise, wheras > it would > > >do me in. > > > I found a number of interesting points and ideas in the book, but > to me > > >they don't add up to the grand conclusions he draws. > > > The world's oldest health care system still looks the best to me. > > >Ayurveda. Looking through that lens, I am a Vata and so of course cannot > > >bear intense exercise, but my Pitta husband definitely needs it. > > > I have heard several people say that they feel better when they eat > > > meat, > > >but I don't think it is the meat per se that they need. I think it is the > > >fat. I get that by eating lots of ghee. > > > Anyway, it'd be interesting to know just WHAT people were eating > and not > > >eating when they were vegetarian, and experiment to see just what it > is that > > >was not doing them good, and just what it is that they need. > > >Vegetarian/non-vegetarian just cover so much territory that it doesn't > really > > >mean much. > > > Even the word " vegetarian " means a lot of different things to a > lot of > > >people. Some people think vegetarians eat everything except beef and > pork. > > >Others think it means not eating anything that came from an animal in any > > >way, even butter or honey. And lots of people become vegetarian just by > > >skipping what used to be the main course, but still eating the S.A.D. the > > >very sad " standard American diet. " > > > So making generalizations about all thils is sort of like the > discussion > > >soapers have about some folks having trouble with shampoo bars while > others > > >do not. What is IN the various shampoo bars, what kind of water do folks > > >have, what kind of hair do they have, etc. A lot of variables would > have to > > >be looked at. > > > This is really pretty much the same point that I was making > (trying to, > > >anyhow) the other day in the discussion about cholesterol. That it > doesn't > > >make a lot of sense to generalize based on just bits of information. > > > Hope my intention is clear here. This IS a friendly, well-meant > message! > > > Shivani > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Shivani... this book, as I see it, needs to also take on an individual perspective...I am always looking at all new " fad " diets, etc., through the lens of TCM and ayurveda... This book was Recommended reading in the East West school of Herbology, which is based in Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese medicine, which comes from Ayurveda. I was a vegetarian for years and still aim mostly for that, but find I need a lot more protein than I thought I did...and I eat ghee, lots of it, and dairy like whole milk yogurt. My main focus is high quality protein from beans like mung and adzuki, which are easier to digest, and soaking my grains overnight (yes even grains) to release the phytates and make the protein 80% more available. I dont think I generalize, but I do bring up a lot of tidbits to encourage conversation about them...I can get very specific in my discussions, as I do have a wide base of knowledge, but, I feel, am only " scratching the surface " ... Discussions like these engage me and teach me, by my having to research things further... Thanks Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 - Marilyn Nicholson <menicholson7 Monday, January 14, 2002 4:36 PM Re: Re: eating for your type > Hiyas Janet, > > The book was 'Nourishing Traditions' by Sally Fallon > > Hugs, > > Marilyn > > Janet Golden wrote: > > > Shivani- > > Sorry I missed the name of the book. > > Janet > > > > > My naturopath recommended that book, so I read it. I'm an O, also, but > > >have been vegetarian for decades. Healthfully. > > > That book would have light-weight me doing intense exercise, and my > > >athletic husband doing just gentle stetches and walking. Just the opposite > > >of what we actually need. My DH thrives on intense exercise, wheras it would > > >do me in. > > > I found a number of interesting points and ideas in the book, but to me > > >they don't add up to the grand conclusions he draws. > > > The world's oldest health care system still looks the best to me. > > >Ayurveda. Looking through that lens, I am a Vata and so of course cannot > > >bear intense exercise, but my Pitta husband definitely needs it. > > > I have heard several people say that they feel better when they eat > > > meat, > > >but I don't think it is the meat per se that they need. I think it is the > > >fat. I get that by eating lots of ghee. > > > Anyway, it'd be interesting to know just WHAT people were eating and not > > >eating when they were vegetarian, and experiment to see just what it is that > > >was not doing them good, and just what it is that they need. > > >Vegetarian/non-vegetarian just cover so much territory that it doesn't really > > >mean much. > > > Even the word " vegetarian " means a lot of different things to a lot of > > >people. Some people think vegetarians eat everything except beef and pork. > > >Others think it means not eating anything that came from an animal in any > > >way, even butter or honey. And lots of people become vegetarian just by > > >skipping what used to be the main course, but still eating the S.A.D. the > > >very sad " standard American diet. " > > > So making generalizations about all thils is sort of like the discussion > > >soapers have about some folks having trouble with shampoo bars while others > > >do not. What is IN the various shampoo bars, what kind of water do folks > > >have, what kind of hair do they have, etc. A lot of variables would have to > > >be looked at. > > > This is really pretty much the same point that I was making (trying to, > > >anyhow) the other day in the discussion about cholesterol. That it doesn't > > >make a lot of sense to generalize based on just bits of information. > > > Hope my intention is clear here. This IS a friendly, well-meant message! > > > Shivani > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 > Hiyas Janet, > > The book was 'Nourishing Traditions' by Sally Fallon > > Hugs, > > Marilyn > Janet Check out that book, too, but I was, in the post you were referring to, speaking of " eat right for your type " ... Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Ummmmmmm.. Whoopsyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!! (sorry, Michelle!!!!) Hugs, Marilyn Michelle Morton-niyama wrote: > > Hiyas Janet, > > > > The book was 'Nourishing Traditions' by Sally Fallon > > > > Hugs, > > > > Marilyn > > > Janet > Check out that book, too, but I was, in the post you were referring to, > speaking of " eat right for your type " ... > Michelle > > > My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 What is Ayurveda? Thanks, Josephene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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