Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Thank you Butch, My sentiments EXACTLY *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Butch Owen wrote: > Hey Jim, > > > problem is that even though we can control the Genetic make up in a lab > > we can not control cross pollination in nature. thus down the road a > > ways ALL FOODS will no longer be as they were they will all be to some > > degree.. changed , forever, not always for the better... jim > > But that is the process of evolution and natural selection and it is OK. > The same reasoning supports the facts that since man evolved with plants > and animals and natural chemicals that can be traced back to pre-history > - and we share all of these synergistic chemical properties and traits > with these other living things, and with most of the microbial, fungal > and other smaller celled critters that made it through these processes > .. we can deal with them better than we can deal with man-made > medications. > > There are many man-made antibiotics in the drug store, for example, but > are they probiotic? We find probiotics in nature and man deals with > them easily and without destroying the immune system. > > We can't fool Mother Nature and we can't force Her without suffering > some form of side effect .. the side-effects and contraindications of > isolated chemical produced products are well-known and I think we are > building a similar situation with GM foods. I don't think we can > improve on Mother Nature's work without creating some unacceptable > consequences. > > I accept that it might be better to feed the hungry of the world with GC > food rather than let them starve .. but alternatives to that for long > term planning are better transportation and distribution systems because > there is NOT a food shortage in the world .. the food is just not in the > right places. Food has become a political tool. I also wear a hat as > Director of International Operations for a NGO called the Black Sea > Economic Cooperation Agribusiness Group. I have intimate knowledge of > how pulses and sugar and cement are hoarded by multi-national > organizations and then traded to certain countries for mining rights and > other privileges - food is a tool and a weapon of power now. Butch > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 that is a sad commentary, isn't it? like a bad science fiction movie. - " James W. French " <somatics > problem is that even though we can control the Genetic make up in a lab > we can not control cross pollination in nature. Down the road a ways ALL > FOODS will no longer be as they were they will all be to some degree.. > changed , forever, not always for the better... jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 sorry, i just have to laugh! this sounds like a great children's book Chris! - " Chris Ziegler " <chrisziggy1 .. what I don't like is the idea of pig > genes in my string beans! > > *I just can't smile about this subject!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 Hey Jim, > problem is that even though we can control the Genetic make up in a lab > we can not control cross pollination in nature. thus down the road a > ways ALL FOODS will no longer be as they were they will all be to some > degree.. changed , forever, not always for the better... jim But that is the process of evolution and natural selection and it is OK. The same reasoning supports the facts that since man evolved with plants and animals and natural chemicals that can be traced back to pre-history - and we share all of these synergistic chemical properties and traits with these other living things, and with most of the microbial, fungal and other smaller celled critters that made it through these processes ... we can deal with them better than we can deal with man-made medications. There are many man-made antibiotics in the drug store, for example, but are they probiotic? We find probiotics in nature and man deals with them easily and without destroying the immune system. We can't fool Mother Nature and we can't force Her without suffering some form of side effect .. the side-effects and contraindications of isolated chemical produced products are well-known and I think we are building a similar situation with GM foods. I don't think we can improve on Mother Nature's work without creating some unacceptable consequences. I accept that it might be better to feed the hungry of the world with GC food rather than let them starve .. but alternatives to that for long term planning are better transportation and distribution systems because there is NOT a food shortage in the world .. the food is just not in the right places. Food has become a political tool. I also wear a hat as of International Operations for a NGO called the Black Sea Economic Cooperation Agribusiness Group. I have intimate knowledge of how pulses and sugar and cement are hoarded by multi-national organizations and then traded to certain countries for mining rights and other privileges - food is a tool and a weapon of power now. Butch > Chris Ziegler wrote: > > > > I personally think ALL GMO's should be labeled ... we have the RIGHT to > > choose to NOT be guiney pigs as far as our food chain is concerned ;( We > > ARE what we eat and every single day they prove that more and more! > > > > Chris (list mom) > > http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > > > Butch Owen wrote: > > > > > > > > A Dutch farmer left two piles of maize in a barn infested with mice, one > > > pile GM, the other non GM. The GM pile was untouched, while the non GM > > > pile was completely eaten up. Incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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