Banning Raindrop - YL Practioners going against it

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This is very long, and obviously from a one sided point of view (but,

hey most things are). The below letter is pro-raindrop and pro-YL. So if

you don't wanna read it, then don't. I thought it was rather interesting

to see the reaction.

 

Personally, I think YL is a really scary organization, and raindrop is a

rather bad practice. Having had raindrop actually done (yeah, gotta try

something before you knock it), and having gotten bad skin reactions to

the oils, I am 100% behind the idea of not using oils neat on anyone but

yourself. If you use it on yourself, it is your risk, and you hopefully

have had or will build the experience to know what works and what

doesn't. The oils used in my raindrop, I have never had reactions to

before, when used neat on my body. However, the practioner was using all

YL oils, so that may be the reason for the reactions and other problems.

 

Anyways, read if you want, or delete if you want.

 

 

 

Thank You,

Soseneda

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends

 

This is an urgent request and we need your response ASAP. If you or any

of

 

your friends, relatives or clients have benefited from raindrop

technique

 

and you would like to see the practice continue legally and unrestricted

as

 

it is now, then we need your input via the questionnaire at the end of

this

 

memo.

 

There is an organized effort on the part of a sizable group of

 

aromatherapists to abolish the practice of raindrop technique. And even

 

though the basis of their objections to raindrop is unscientific and

 

unfounded, to a person not familiar with raindrop or the quality of

Young

 

Living oils, their well articulated arguments against raindrop sound

very

 

convincing and even appear to be scientifically based.

 

On November 25, 2001, a committee of the National Association of

Holistic

 

Aromatherapists (NAHA) completed a draft of a proposed position for NAHA

 

that would make it a breach of the NAHA Code of Ethics for

Aromatherapists

 

(or anyone else) to practice Raindrop Technique. There is a lot of fear

 

expressed in this paper and if this was the only information you had on

 

raindrop, you would probably be frightened against ever doing raindrop

or

 

even trying it one time.

 

None of the committee members drafting this paper have ever received,

 

witnessed or done a Raindrop. As a member of NAHA, I asked to be on the

 

committee, but was rejected because, they said, " This is going to be a

paper

 

against raindrop and since you are associated with Young Living and

 

obviously believe in raindrop you would be prejudiced and your input

would

 

not be objective. " Their analysis and critique of Raindrop is based

entirely

 

upon the version of Raindrop described in the 2nd edition of the

Essential

 

Oils Desk Reference and as demonstrated in two YLEO videos with Dr. Gary

 

Young.

 

Their objection to the technique is based upon a popular misconception

among

 

many aromatherapists around the world (particularly those from Great

 

Britain) that any application of essential oils neat is intrinsically

 

hazardous and should never be done. They are especially concerned about

 

oregano, thyme, birch, wintergreen, peppermint and lemongrass (and even

 

valor) being applied directly to the skin.

 

They also do not believe that anyone with scoliosis or other spinal

 

curvature problems could possibly benefit from Raindrop and, therefore,

 

allege that Young Living and others claiming that scoliosis clients have

 

benefited from Raindrop are making false claims.

 

They also object to people doing raindrop who are not " certified

 

aromatherapists " with hundreds of hours of training in a NAHA approved

 

school or training program.

 

The position paper is being presented to the NAHA Governing Board in

 

December and, if given the go-ahead, the paper will be circulated to the

 

general membership for a vote approval, a process that takes several

months.

 

If it passes in its present form, NAHA the supporters of the paper will

do

 

everything they can do to educate the public, as well as health care

 

professionals, of the " potential dangers " of raindrop. They will try to

 

influence all of the massage therapy licensing boards in every state

against

 

permitting the practice of Raindrop within the scope of massage therapy.

In

 

other words, they want to see raindrop abolished from the face of the

earth.

 

I am a member of NAHA and a Raindrop Trainer, and have been asked by the

 

NAHA President to comment on the proposed paper and to write an

alternative

 

paper if I wish. However, in order to successfully respond to the

current

 

draft being presented to the NAHA board, I need data. A questionnaire

that

 

we have been circulating for several weeks is found at the end of this

 

message. Many of you have already completed it and we thank you all for

 

taking the time to respond. However we need many many more respondents

 

before we will have an adequate statistical sample. The fact that a

major

 

organization (NAHA) who seeks to set standards for the use of essential

oils

 

and the practice of aromatherapy throughout the U.S. is on the verge of

 

coming out against Raindrop makes the complilation of this data all the

more

 

important.

 

The proposed NAHA position paper does not cite a single case of anyone

being

 

harmed by raindrop as justification for their concern. It is devoid of

data.

 

Rather, the 15-page document starts from the premise that any essential

oil

 

applied neat to the skin is potentially dangerous and since raindrop

does

 

involve the neat application of oils it is, therefore, dangerous. The

 

studies they cite to support this are all of British origin where

research

 

has been done on adulterated, refined and synthetic oils used in the

 

fragrance and food industries and where the research has almost all done

on

 

animals, which does not validly extrapolate to humans.

 

This research has no relevance to pure, unadulterated, undiluted,

properly

 

grown and properly distilled oils such as those available from Young

Living.

 

Hence, the whole basis of the proposed NAHA paper is false, since it

 

provides no evidence of actual harm resulting from raindrop and since

its

 

theoretical basis relies on animal research and data from oils that are

not

 

therapeutic grade as are the oils of YL. Nevertheless, unless countered

with

 

other evidence and information, the membership of NAHA will have been

 

deceived into endorsing a position against raindrop and thousands of

people

 

will be discouraged from or deprived from receiving raindrop.

 

Those of use who have received and done raindrop are well aware of its

 

benefits. It would be a crime against humanity for a movement to ban the

 

practice of raindrop to succeed. However, the leadership of NAHA is

giving

 

us an opportunity to present another viewpoint. In the questionnaire

below,

 

we want not only the good outcomes, but the untoward outcomes as well.

If

 

you or any of your clients have suffered rashes, skin irritations,

 

sensitizations, allergenic reactions, or problems of any kind, please be

 

candid and complete in your answers. We want this to be an honest

survey.

 

There are tens of thousands of people in Young Living who have benefited

 

from raindrop. We all know this anecdotally. The time has come to put it

on

 

paper and have some documentation. The only way that can happen is with

the

 

participation of those of you whom have received and who do raindrop

 

technique. Thanks for your help. We need your response ASAP.

 

I will publish the results of this effort on this chat line, as well as

 

elsewhere. It is our hope that we may be able to publish the study based

on

 

this questionnaire in the NAHA Journal, thus providing the NAHA

membership

 

with another point of view on raindrop based on empirical and

experiential

 

data. With such input, it is hoped that the NAHA Membership will vote

 

against the negative position paper now before the Board. Perhaps they

can

 

be persuaded to adopt a positive statement acknowledging the benefits of

 

raindrop, while recognizing the limits of its safe practice, and

endorsing

 

its validity as an effective and desirable technique that

aromatherapists

 

everywhere could well incorporate into their practices.

 

Your right to practice and receive raindrop technique is being

threatened.

 

This is your opportunity to protect that right and educate the world as

to

 

its benefits. And let me also add that another potential benefit from

this

 

survey, and your participation in it, is that some insurance companies

are

 

actually looking into paying for raindrop therapy and have requested

data on

 

raindrop outcomes so they can make an informed judgement as to its

 

therapeutic value.

 

Thanks so much

 

David Stewart, Ph.D.

 

Executive Director, CARE, Inc.

 

 

 

RAINDROP TECHNIQUE OUTCOME RESEARCH QUESTIONNAIRE

 

Center for Aromatherapy Research and Education € CARE, Inc.

 

Rt. 4, Box 646, Marble Hill, MO 63764 € (573) 238-4273 €

<napsac

 

INSTRUCTIONS: The information to be compiled from these questionnaires

is

 

for statistical research purposes only. No names or addresses, whether

US

 

postal or email, will not be given out to anyone. The results of the

survey

 

will be published on the chat line from which you receive this

 

questionnaire.

 

Your cooperation and assistance in this project is greatly appreciated.

A

 

prompt response is necessary inasmuch as we want to complete this

tabulation

 

by December 1st, 2001. It may not be possible to include Questionnaires

 

received after that date in the tally.

 

YOU MAY BE BOTH A RAINDROP RECEIVER AND FACILITATOR. PLEASE COMPLETE ALL

 

QUESTIONS THAT PERTAIN TO YOU.

 

Please respond by email or, if you wish, mail to Care at the address

above.

 

RAINDROP RESEARCH QUESTIONNAIRE

 

1. State or Province_________________________ Gender: Male or Female

 

FOR RAINDROP RECEIVERS

 

2, In what year did you first receive a Raindrop?____________

 

3. Estimate how many times you have received Raindrop since (and

including)

 

your first__________

 

4. Evaluate your experience(s) following receipt of a Raindrop by

 

estimating the number of experiences for the following categories. Do

the

 

best you can in recalling. This is not a precision survey, but a general

 

determination survey. Check as many as is appropriate.

 

Positive______ Neutral______ Negative______

 

Pleasant______ Neutral______ Unpleasant______

 

Resulted in a healing______ No perceptible results______ Caused harm or

 

injury______

 

Felt better afterwards______ No change in feeling______ Felt worse

 

afterwards______

 

State of health improved_____ No change in health_____ General health

got

 

worse_____

 

Emotional state improved______ No change in emotions______ Emotional

State

 

worsened______

 

Would receive it again______ Maybe so, maybe not______ Would never

receive

 

it again______

 

5. Please explain your answers or give a testimonial of what Raindrop

did

 

for you, positive or negative. Write on the back of this sheet or use

 

additional sheets as needed. Your full and candid answers will be

greatly

 

appreciated. Remember everything is confidential. Your identity will

never

 

be revealed.

 

 

 

FOR RAINDROP FACILITATORS

 

6. In what year did you first perform a Raindrop on someone? _______

 

7. Estimate how many times have you performed Raindrop since (and

 

including) your first? __________

 

8. Evaluate your experiences with clients receiving Raindrop by

estimating

 

numbers of cases (or percents of your total) for the following

categories.

 

Do the best you can in recalling. This is not a precision survey, but a

 

general determination survey.

 

Positive______ Neutral______ Negative_____

 

Pleasant______ Neutral______ Unpleasant______

 

Resulted in a healing______ No perceptible results______ Caused harm or

 

injury______

 

Felt better afterwards______ No change in feeling______ Felt worse

 

afterwards______

 

State of health improved_____ No change in health______ General health

got

 

worse______

 

Emotional state improved______ No change in emotions______ Emotional

state

 

worsened______

 

Would receive it again______ Maybe so, maybe not______Would never

receive it

 

again______

 

9. Please elaborate on your answers or give selected accounts of what

 

Raindrop has done for your clients, in general, either positive or

negative.

 

Write on the back of this sheet or use additional sheets as needed. Your

 

full and candid answers will be greatly appreciated. Remember everything

is

 

confidential. Your identity will never be revealed.

 

10. How were you trained to do Raindrop Technique? (choose one or more)

 

Personally Trained one-on-one or in a small group by Dr. Gary

Young______

 

Trained at a Young Living Level I Program______

 

Trained b y someone who took the YL Level I Program______

 

Educational Institution other than YL____ Name of

 

Institution__Mindful Healing________________________

 

Learned from a book________ Title of

 

Book__YLO Desk Reference___

 

Learned from a video_______ Title of

 

Video__________________

 

Other_____________

 

11. What Brand of Oils did you use in doing Raindrop?

 

Exclusively Young Living Oils___________

 

Occasionally use other brands, but mostly use Young Living____________

 

Occasionally use Young Living, but mostly use other brands____________

 

Usually use brands other than Young Living____________

 

Other brands I

 

use______________

 

12. Are you a licensed professional? (yes or no)______

 

If yes, specify what type or types such as DC, ND, OD, RN, OMD, MD, LMT,

 

CMT, PT, etc. ___________________

 

 

 

Feel Free to add any comments you would like to include as additional

 

information.

 

END OF QUESTIONNAIRE

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sos, and all

 

BOY, do I recognize that name. Quite frankly, I don't think the real power

in YL are going to worry that much. Must say it pleases me to read the panic

in David's letter though. Give's me hope.

 

First of all, this paper has to pass through NAHA. Quite frankly, from

everything I've been reading on idma, I'd be VERY surprised to see it

passed.

 

My impression is that NAHA is probably going to waffle on the issue and sit

on the fence.

 

Mind you, this is just MY impression, derived by the " slings and arrows "

that fly every time that organizations name is brought up!

 

Secondly (again this is just MY opinion), while I HOPE that NAHA decides for

the paper, it, in reality, will mean very little until NAHA can clean up

it's act and present itself to all as a credible organization. Right now

it's floundering and no one seems to really pay any notice to them.

 

As for YL, I would LOVE to believe that they are running scared, but this

letter is from one person in the organization and not even from anyone of

any importance.

 

Now if the letter had been from GY I'd climb on my roof and CHEER! Or even,

run around the neighborhood naked (and believe me, right now in PARTICULAR,

that would be a VERY frightening sight! LOL) painted blue and cheering.

 

Anywho, that's my nickle on it!

 

Thanks for posting that Soseneda!

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories

http://www.101aromas.com

 

-

" Soseneda " <Soseneda

" "

Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:49 AM

Banning Raindrop - YL Practioners going against it

 

 

This is very long, and obviously from a one sided point of view (but,

hey most things are). The below letter is pro-raindrop and pro-YL. So if

you don't wanna read it, then don't. I thought it was rather interesting

to see the reaction.

 

Personally, I think YL is a really scary organization, and raindrop is a

rather bad practice. Having had raindrop actually done (yeah, gotta try

something before you knock it), and having gotten bad skin reactions to

the oils, I am 100% behind the idea of not using oils neat on anyone but

yourself. If you use it on yourself, it is your risk, and you hopefully

have had or will build the experience to know what works and what

doesn't. The oils used in my raindrop, I have never had reactions to

before, when used neat on my body. However, the practioner was using all

YL oils, so that may be the reason for the reactions and other problems.

 

Anyways, read if you want, or delete if you want.

 

 

 

Thank You,

Soseneda

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends

 

This is an urgent request and we need your response ASAP. If you or any

of

 

your friends, relatives or clients have benefited from raindrop

technique

 

and you would like to see the practice continue legally and unrestricted

as

 

it is now, then we need your input via the questionnaire at the end of

this

 

memo.

 

There is an organized effort on the part of a sizable group of

 

aromatherapists to abolish the practice of raindrop technique. And even

 

though the basis of their objections to raindrop is unscientific and

 

unfounded, to a person not familiar with raindrop or the quality of

Young

 

Living oils, their well articulated arguments against raindrop sound

very

 

convincing and even appear to be scientifically based.

 

On November 25, 2001, a committee of the National Association of

Holistic

 

Aromatherapists (NAHA) completed a draft of a proposed position for NAHA

 

that would make it a breach of the NAHA Code of Ethics for

Aromatherapists

 

(or anyone else) to practice Raindrop Technique. There is a lot of fear

 

expressed in this paper and if this was the only information you had on

 

raindrop, you would probably be frightened against ever doing raindrop

or

 

even trying it one time.

 

None of the committee members drafting this paper have ever received,

 

witnessed or done a Raindrop. As a member of NAHA, I asked to be on the

 

committee, but was rejected because, they said, " This is going to be a

paper

 

against raindrop and since you are associated with Young Living and

 

obviously believe in raindrop you would be prejudiced and your input

would

 

not be objective. " Their analysis and critique of Raindrop is based

entirely

 

upon the version of Raindrop described in the 2nd edition of the

Essential

 

Oils Desk Reference and as demonstrated in two YLEO videos with Dr. Gary

 

Young.

 

Their objection to the technique is based upon a popular misconception

among

 

many aromatherapists around the world (particularly those from Great

 

Britain) that any application of essential oils neat is intrinsically

 

hazardous and should never be done. They are especially concerned about

 

oregano, thyme, birch, wintergreen, peppermint and lemongrass (and even

 

valor) being applied directly to the skin.

 

They also do not believe that anyone with scoliosis or other spinal

 

curvature problems could possibly benefit from Raindrop and, therefore,

 

allege that Young Living and others claiming that scoliosis clients have

 

benefited from Raindrop are making false claims.

 

They also object to people doing raindrop who are not " certified

 

aromatherapists " with hundreds of hours of training in a NAHA approved

 

school or training program.

 

The position paper is being presented to the NAHA Governing Board in

 

December and, if given the go-ahead, the paper will be circulated to the

 

general membership for a vote approval, a process that takes several

months.

 

If it passes in its present form, NAHA the supporters of the paper will

do

 

everything they can do to educate the public, as well as health care

 

professionals, of the " potential dangers " of raindrop. They will try to

 

influence all of the massage therapy licensing boards in every state

against

 

permitting the practice of Raindrop within the scope of massage therapy.

In

 

other words, they want to see raindrop abolished from the face of the

earth.

 

I am a member of NAHA and a Raindrop Trainer, and have been asked by the

 

NAHA President to comment on the proposed paper and to write an

alternative

 

paper if I wish. However, in order to successfully respond to the

current

 

draft being presented to the NAHA board, I need data. A questionnaire

that

 

we have been circulating for several weeks is found at the end of this

 

message. Many of you have already completed it and we thank you all for

 

taking the time to respond. However we need many many more respondents

 

before we will have an adequate statistical sample. The fact that a

major

 

organization (NAHA) who seeks to set standards for the use of essential

oils

 

and the practice of aromatherapy throughout the U.S. is on the verge of

 

coming out against Raindrop makes the complilation of this data all the

more

 

important.

 

The proposed NAHA position paper does not cite a single case of anyone

being

 

harmed by raindrop as justification for their concern. It is devoid of

data.

 

Rather, the 15-page document starts from the premise that any essential

oil

 

applied neat to the skin is potentially dangerous and since raindrop

does

 

involve the neat application of oils it is, therefore, dangerous. The

 

studies they cite to support this are all of British origin where

research

 

has been done on adulterated, refined and synthetic oils used in the

 

fragrance and food industries and where the research has almost all done

on

 

animals, which does not validly extrapolate to humans.

 

This research has no relevance to pure, unadulterated, undiluted,

properly

 

grown and properly distilled oils such as those available from Young

Living.

 

Hence, the whole basis of the proposed NAHA paper is false, since it

 

provides no evidence of actual harm resulting from raindrop and since

its

 

theoretical basis relies on animal research and data from oils that are

not

 

therapeutic grade as are the oils of YL. Nevertheless, unless countered

with

 

other evidence and information, the membership of NAHA will have been

 

deceived into endorsing a position against raindrop and thousands of

people

 

will be discouraged from or deprived from receiving raindrop.

 

Those of use who have received and done raindrop are well aware of its

 

benefits. It would be a crime against humanity for a movement to ban the

 

practice of raindrop to succeed. However, the leadership of NAHA is

giving

 

us an opportunity to present another viewpoint. In the questionnaire

below,

 

we want not only the good outcomes, but the untoward outcomes as well.

If

 

you or any of your clients have suffered rashes, skin irritations,

 

sensitizations, allergenic reactions, or problems of any kind, please be

 

candid and complete in your answers. We want this to be an honest

survey.

 

There are tens of thousands of people in Young Living who have benefited

 

from raindrop. We all know this anecdotally. The time has come to put it

on

 

paper and have some documentation. The only way that can happen is with

the

 

participation of those of you whom have received and who do raindrop

 

technique. Thanks for your help. We need your response ASAP.

 

I will publish the results of this effort on this chat line, as well as

 

elsewhere. It is our hope that we may be able to publish the study based

on

 

this questionnaire in the NAHA Journal, thus providing the NAHA

membership

 

with another point of view on raindrop based on empirical and

experiential

 

data. With such input, it is hoped that the NAHA Membership will vote

 

against the negative position paper now before the Board. Perhaps they

can

 

be persuaded to adopt a positive statement acknowledging the benefits of

 

raindrop, while recognizing the limits of its safe practice, and

endorsing

 

its validity as an effective and desirable technique that

aromatherapists

 

everywhere could well incorporate into their practices.

 

Your right to practice and receive raindrop technique is being

threatened.

 

This is your opportunity to protect that right and educate the world as

to

 

its benefits. And let me also add that another potential benefit from

this

 

survey, and your participation in it, is that some insurance companies

are

 

actually looking into paying for raindrop therapy and have requested

data on

 

raindrop outcomes so they can make an informed judgement as to its

 

therapeutic value.

 

Thanks so much

 

David Stewart, Ph.D.

 

Executive Director, CARE, Inc.

 

 

 

RAINDROP TECHNIQUE OUTCOME RESEARCH QUESTIONNAIRE

 

Center for Aromatherapy Research and Education ? CARE, Inc.

 

Rt. 4, Box 646, Marble Hill, MO 63764 ? (573) 238-4273 ?

<napsac

 

INSTRUCTIONS: The information to be compiled from these questionnaires

is

 

for statistical research purposes only. No names or addresses, whether

US

 

postal or email, will not be given out to anyone. The results of the

survey

 

will be published on the chat line from which you receive this

 

questionnaire.

 

Your cooperation and assistance in this project is greatly appreciated.

A

 

prompt response is necessary inasmuch as we want to complete this

tabulation

 

by December 1st, 2001. It may not be possible to include Questionnaires

 

received after that date in the tally.

 

YOU MAY BE BOTH A RAINDROP RECEIVER AND FACILITATOR. PLEASE COMPLETE ALL

 

QUESTIONS THAT PERTAIN TO YOU.

 

Please respond by email or, if you wish, mail to Care at the address

above.

 

RAINDROP RESEARCH QUESTIONNAIRE

 

1. State or Province_________________________ Gender: Male or Female

 

FOR RAINDROP RECEIVERS

 

2, In what year did you first receive a Raindrop?____________

 

3. Estimate how many times you have received Raindrop since (and

including)

 

your first__________

 

4. Evaluate your experience(s) following receipt of a Raindrop by

 

estimating the number of experiences for the following categories. Do

the

 

best you can in recalling. This is not a precision survey, but a general

 

determination survey. Check as many as is appropriate.

 

Positive______ Neutral______ Negative______

 

Pleasant______ Neutral______ Unpleasant______

 

Resulted in a healing______ No perceptible results______ Caused harm or

 

injury______

 

Felt better afterwards______ No change in feeling______ Felt worse

 

afterwards______

 

State of health improved_____ No change in health_____ General health

got

 

worse_____

 

Emotional state improved______ No change in emotions______ Emotional

State

 

worsened______

 

Would receive it again______ Maybe so, maybe not______ Would never

receive

 

it again______

 

5. Please explain your answers or give a testimonial of what Raindrop

did

 

for you, positive or negative. Write on the back of this sheet or use

 

additional sheets as needed. Your full and candid answers will be

greatly

 

appreciated. Remember everything is confidential. Your identity will

never

 

be revealed.

 

 

 

FOR RAINDROP FACILITATORS

 

6. In what year did you first perform a Raindrop on someone? _______

 

7. Estimate how many times have you performed Raindrop since (and

 

including) your first? __________

 

8. Evaluate your experiences with clients receiving Raindrop by

estimating

 

numbers of cases (or percents of your total) for the following

categories.

 

Do the best you can in recalling. This is not a precision survey, but a

 

general determination survey.

 

Positive______ Neutral______ Negative_____

 

Pleasant______ Neutral______ Unpleasant______

 

Resulted in a healing______ No perceptible results______ Caused harm or

 

injury______

 

Felt better afterwards______ No change in feeling______ Felt worse

 

afterwards______

 

State of health improved_____ No change in health______ General health

got

 

worse______

 

Emotional state improved______ No change in emotions______ Emotional

state

 

worsened______

 

Would receive it again______ Maybe so, maybe not______Would never

receive it

 

again______

 

9. Please elaborate on your answers or give selected accounts of what

 

Raindrop has done for your clients, in general, either positive or

negative.

 

Write on the back of this sheet or use additional sheets as needed. Your

 

full and candid answers will be greatly appreciated. Remember everything

is

 

confidential. Your identity will never be revealed.

 

10. How were you trained to do Raindrop Technique? (choose one or more)

 

Personally Trained one-on-one or in a small group by Dr. Gary

Young______

 

Trained at a Young Living Level I Program______

 

Trained b y someone who took the YL Level I Program______

 

Educational Institution other than YL____ Name of

 

Institution__Mindful Healing________________________

 

Learned from a book________ Title of

 

Book__YLO Desk Reference___

 

Learned from a video_______ Title of

 

Video__________________

 

Other_____________

 

11. What Brand of Oils did you use in doing Raindrop?

 

Exclusively Young Living Oils___________

 

Occasionally use other brands, but mostly use Young Living____________

 

Occasionally use Young Living, but mostly use other brands____________

 

Usually use brands other than Young Living____________

 

Other brands I

 

use______________

 

12. Are you a licensed professional? (yes or no)______

 

If yes, specify what type or types such as DC, ND, OD, RN, OMD, MD, LMT,

 

CMT, PT, etc. ___________________

 

 

 

Feel Free to add any comments you would like to include as additional

 

information.

 

END OF QUESTIONNAIRE

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ha,

 

Ban it, isn't it interesting that the person conducting this " impartial "

survey is a member of YL himself? YL's training consists of a video at BEST.

Sure, fill it out and send all the results to me, I'm not a YL affiliate,

which in this person's even conducting this survey, invalidates it. I've seen

this passed out on the idma list as well, remember here, that Gary Young, of

Young Living, BOUGHT his " supposed " degree online. Meaning even he isn't

qualified to do this..............Also, keep in mind that YL personnel are

all independants (type of pyramid scheme) and IF someone gets hurt while

they're doing raindrop therapy on them, guess who gets sued? NOT Gary Young!

He's made sure of it. Add to that the lack of training these people have in

the first place - an aromatherapists first commitment to others is DO NO

HARM. Raindrop therapy, left especially in untreated so-called practioners,

has already done harm, do what you'd like on your own body but be a

professional when it comes to others.

Ok, enough from me <grinz)

 

Hugs,

 

Marilyn

 

Soseneda wrote:

 

> This is very long, and obviously from a one sided point of view (but,

> hey most things are). The below letter is pro-raindrop and pro-YL. So if

> you don't wanna read it, then don't. I thought it was rather interesting

> to see the reaction.

>

> Personally, I think YL is a really scary organization, and raindrop is a

> rather bad practice. Having had raindrop actually done (yeah, gotta try

> something before you knock it), and having gotten bad skin reactions to

> the oils, I am 100% behind the idea of not using oils neat on anyone but

> yourself. If you use it on yourself, it is your risk, and you hopefully

> have had or will build the experience to know what works and what

> doesn't. The oils used in my raindrop, I have never had reactions to

> before, when used neat on my body. However, the practioner was using all

> YL oils, so that may be the reason for the reactions and other problems.

>

> Anyways, read if you want, or delete if you want.

>

> Thank You,

> Soseneda

>

>

>

> Dear Friends

>

> This is an urgent request and we need your response ASAP. If you or any

> of

>

> your friends, relatives or clients have benefited from raindrop

> technique

>

> and you would like to see the practice continue legally and unrestricted

> as

>

> it is now, then we need your input via the questionnaire at the end of

> this

>

> memo.

>

> There is an organized effort on the part of a sizable group of

>

> aromatherapists to abolish the practice of raindrop technique. And even

>

> though the basis of their objections to raindrop is unscientific and

>

> unfounded, to a person not familiar with raindrop or the quality of

> Young

>

> Living oils, their well articulated arguments against raindrop sound

> very

>

> convincing and even appear to be scientifically based.

>

> On November 25, 2001, a committee of the National Association of

> Holistic

>

> Aromatherapists (NAHA) completed a draft of a proposed position for NAHA

>

> that would make it a breach of the NAHA Code of Ethics for

> Aromatherapists

>

> (or anyone else) to practice Raindrop Technique. There is a lot of fear

>

> expressed in this paper and if this was the only information you had on

>

> raindrop, you would probably be frightened against ever doing raindrop

> or

>

> even trying it one time.

>

> None of the committee members drafting this paper have ever received,

>

> witnessed or done a Raindrop. As a member of NAHA, I asked to be on the

>

> committee, but was rejected because, they said, " This is going to be a

> paper

>

> against raindrop and since you are associated with Young Living and

>

> obviously believe in raindrop you would be prejudiced and your input

> would

>

> not be objective. " Their analysis and critique of Raindrop is based

> entirely

>

> upon the version of Raindrop described in the 2nd edition of the

> Essential

>

> Oils Desk Reference and as demonstrated in two YLEO videos with Dr. Gary

>

> Young.

>

> Their objection to the technique is based upon a popular misconception

> among

>

> many aromatherapists around the world (particularly those from Great

>

> Britain) that any application of essential oils neat is intrinsically

>

> hazardous and should never be done. They are especially concerned about

>

> oregano, thyme, birch, wintergreen, peppermint and lemongrass (and even

>

> valor) being applied directly to the skin.

>

> They also do not believe that anyone with scoliosis or other spinal

>

> curvature problems could possibly benefit from Raindrop and, therefore,

>

> allege that Young Living and others claiming that scoliosis clients have

>

> benefited from Raindrop are making false claims.

>

> They also object to people doing raindrop who are not " certified

>

> aromatherapists " with hundreds of hours of training in a NAHA approved

>

> school or training program.

>

> The position paper is being presented to the NAHA Governing Board in

>

> December and, if given the go-ahead, the paper will be circulated to the

>

> general membership for a vote approval, a process that takes several

> months.

>

> If it passes in its present form, NAHA the supporters of the paper will

> do

>

> everything they can do to educate the public, as well as health care

>

> professionals, of the " potential dangers " of raindrop. They will try to

>

> influence all of the massage therapy licensing boards in every state

> against

>

> permitting the practice of Raindrop within the scope of massage therapy.

> In

>

> other words, they want to see raindrop abolished from the face of the

> earth.

>

> I am a member of NAHA and a Raindrop Trainer, and have been asked by the

>

> NAHA President to comment on the proposed paper and to write an

> alternative

>

> paper if I wish. However, in order to successfully respond to the

> current

>

> draft being presented to the NAHA board, I need data. A questionnaire

> that

>

> we have been circulating for several weeks is found at the end of this

>

> message. Many of you have already completed it and we thank you all for

>

> taking the time to respond. However we need many many more respondents

>

> before we will have an adequate statistical sample. The fact that a

> major

>

> organization (NAHA) who seeks to set standards for the use of essential

> oils

>

> and the practice of aromatherapy throughout the U.S. is on the verge of

>

> coming out against Raindrop makes the complilation of this data all the

> more

>

> important.

>

> The proposed NAHA position paper does not cite a single case of anyone

> being

>

> harmed by raindrop as justification for their concern. It is devoid of

> data.

>

> Rather, the 15-page document starts from the premise that any essential

> oil

>

> applied neat to the skin is potentially dangerous and since raindrop

> does

>

> involve the neat application of oils it is, therefore, dangerous. The

>

> studies they cite to support this are all of British origin where

> research

>

> has been done on adulterated, refined and synthetic oils used in the

>

> fragrance and food industries and where the research has almost all done

> on

>

> animals, which does not validly extrapolate to humans.

>

> This research has no relevance to pure, unadulterated, undiluted,

> properly

>

> grown and properly distilled oils such as those available from Young

> Living.

>

> Hence, the whole basis of the proposed NAHA paper is false, since it

>

> provides no evidence of actual harm resulting from raindrop and since

> its

>

> theoretical basis relies on animal research and data from oils that are

> not

>

> therapeutic grade as are the oils of YL. Nevertheless, unless countered

> with

>

> other evidence and information, the membership of NAHA will have been

>

> deceived into endorsing a position against raindrop and thousands of

> people

>

> will be discouraged from or deprived from receiving raindrop.

>

> Those of use who have received and done raindrop are well aware of its

>

> benefits. It would be a crime against humanity for a movement to ban the

>

> practice of raindrop to succeed. However, the leadership of NAHA is

> giving

>

> us an opportunity to present another viewpoint. In the questionnaire

> below,

>

> we want not only the good outcomes, but the untoward outcomes as well.

> If

>

> you or any of your clients have suffered rashes, skin irritations,

>

> sensitizations, allergenic reactions, or problems of any kind, please be

>

> candid and complete in your answers. We want this to be an honest

> survey.

>

> There are tens of thousands of people in Young Living who have benefited

>

> from raindrop. We all know this anecdotally. The time has come to put it

> on

>

> paper and have some documentation. The only way that can happen is with

> the

>

> participation of those of you whom have received and who do raindrop

>

> technique. Thanks for your help. We need your response ASAP.

>

> I will publish the results of this effort on this chat line, as well as

>

> elsewhere. It is our hope that we may be able to publish the study based

> on

>

> this questionnaire in the NAHA Journal, thus providing the NAHA

> membership

>

> with another point of view on raindrop based on empirical and

> experiential

>

> data. With such input, it is hoped that the NAHA Membership will vote

>

> against the negative position paper now before the Board. Perhaps they

> can

>

> be persuaded to adopt a positive statement acknowledging the benefits of

>

> raindrop, while recognizing the limits of its safe practice, and

> endorsing

>

> its validity as an effective and desirable technique that

> aromatherapists

>

> everywhere could well incorporate into their practices.

>

> Your right to practice and receive raindrop technique is being

> threatened.

>

> This is your opportunity to protect that right and educate the world as

> to

>

> its benefits. And let me also add that another potential benefit from

> this

>

> survey, and your participation in it, is that some insurance companies

> are

>

> actually looking into paying for raindrop therapy and have requested

> data on

>

> raindrop outcomes so they can make an informed judgement as to its

>

> therapeutic value.

>

> Thanks so much

>

> David Stewart, Ph.D.

>

> Executive Director, CARE, Inc.

>

>

>

> RAINDROP TECHNIQUE OUTCOME RESEARCH QUESTIONNAIRE

>

> Center for Aromatherapy Research and Education € CARE, Inc.

>

> Rt. 4, Box 646, Marble Hill, MO 63764 € (573) 238-4273 €

> <napsac

>

> INSTRUCTIONS: The information to be compiled from these questionnaires

> is

>

> for statistical research purposes only. No names or addresses, whether

> US

>

> postal or email, will not be given out to anyone. The results of the

> survey

>

> will be published on the chat line from which you receive this

>

> questionnaire.

>

> Your cooperation and assistance in this project is greatly appreciated.

> A

>

> prompt response is necessary inasmuch as we want to complete this

> tabulation

>

> by December 1st, 2001. It may not be possible to include Questionnaires

>

> received after that date in the tally.

>

> YOU MAY BE BOTH A RAINDROP RECEIVER AND FACILITATOR. PLEASE COMPLETE ALL

>

> QUESTIONS THAT PERTAIN TO YOU.

>

> Please respond by email or, if you wish, mail to Care at the address

> above.

>

> RAINDROP RESEARCH QUESTIONNAIRE

>

> 1. State or Province_________________________ Gender: Male or Female

>

> FOR RAINDROP RECEIVERS

>

> 2, In what year did you first receive a Raindrop?____________

>

> 3. Estimate how many times you have received Raindrop since (and

> including)

>

> your first__________

>

> 4. Evaluate your experience(s) following receipt of a Raindrop by

>

> estimating the number of experiences for the following categories. Do

> the

>

> best you can in recalling. This is not a precision survey, but a general

>

> determination survey. Check as many as is appropriate.

>

> Positive______ Neutral______ Negative______

>

> Pleasant______ Neutral______ Unpleasant______

>

> Resulted in a healing______ No perceptible results______ Caused harm or

>

> injury______

>

> Felt better afterwards______ No change in feeling______ Felt worse

>

> afterwards______

>

> State of health improved_____ No change in health_____ General health

> got

>

> worse_____

>

> Emotional state improved______ No change in emotions______ Emotional

> State

>

> worsened______

>

> Would receive it again______ Maybe so, maybe not______ Would never

> receive

>

> it again______

>

> 5. Please explain your answers or give a testimonial of what Raindrop

> did

>

> for you, positive or negative. Write on the back of this sheet or use

>

> additional sheets as needed. Your full and candid answers will be

> greatly

>

> appreciated. Remember everything is confidential. Your identity will

> never

>

> be revealed.

>

>

>

> FOR RAINDROP FACILITATORS

>

> 6. In what year did you first perform a Raindrop on someone? _______

>

> 7. Estimate how many times have you performed Raindrop since (and

>

> including) your first? __________

>

> 8. Evaluate your experiences with clients receiving Raindrop by

> estimating

>

> numbers of cases (or percents of your total) for the following

> categories.

>

> Do the best you can in recalling. This is not a precision survey, but a

>

> general determination survey.

>

> Positive______ Neutral______ Negative_____

>

> Pleasant______ Neutral______ Unpleasant______

>

> Resulted in a healing______ No perceptible results______ Caused harm or

>

> injury______

>

> Felt better afterwards______ No change in feeling______ Felt worse

>

> afterwards______

>

> State of health improved_____ No change in health______ General health

> got

>

> worse______

>

> Emotional state improved______ No change in emotions______ Emotional

> state

>

> worsened______

>

> Would receive it again______ Maybe so, maybe not______Would never

> receive it

>

> again______

>

> 9. Please elaborate on your answers or give selected accounts of what

>

> Raindrop has done for your clients, in general, either positive or

> negative.

>

> Write on the back of this sheet or use additional sheets as needed. Your

>

> full and candid answers will be greatly appreciated. Remember everything

> is

>

> confidential. Your identity will never be revealed.

>

> 10. How were you trained to do Raindrop Technique? (choose one or more)

>

> Personally Trained one-on-one or in a small group by Dr. Gary

> Young______

>

> Trained at a Young Living Level I Program______

>

> Trained b y someone who took the YL Level I Program______

>

> Educational Institution other than YL____ Name of

>

> Institution__Mindful Healing________________________

>

> Learned from a book________ Title of

>

> Book__YLO Desk Reference___

>

> Learned from a video_______ Title of

>

> Video__________________

>

> Other_____________

>

> 11. What Brand of Oils did you use in doing Raindrop?

>

> Exclusively Young Living Oils___________

>

> Occasionally use other brands, but mostly use Young Living____________

>

> Occasionally use Young Living, but mostly use other brands____________

>

> Usually use brands other than Young Living____________

>

> Other brands I

>

> use______________

>

> 12. Are you a licensed professional? (yes or no)______

>

> If yes, specify what type or types such as DC, ND, OD, RN, OMD, MD, LMT,

>

> CMT, PT, etc. ___________________

>

>

>

> Feel Free to add any comments you would like to include as additional

>

> information.

>

> END OF QUESTIONNAIRE

>

> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Jeeez,

 

YL'er David with the Ph.D. (Piled Higher and Deeper) strikes again, huh?

 

YL and NAHA are both 2 organizations that have done NOTHING at all to

make the AT community a better place. Each have, in their own unique

ways, added their own burdens to this little cottage industry. All that

has done is promote AT as a JOKE at best, and dangerous at worst! :-(

 

Chris (list mom - short fused and incredibly busy today)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

Kathleen Petrides wrote:

 

>Hi Sos, and all

>

>BOY, do I recognize that name. Quite frankly, I don't think the real power

>in YL are going to worry that much. Must say it pleases me to read the panic

>in David's letter though. Give's me hope.

>

>First of all, this paper has to pass through NAHA. Quite frankly, from

>everything I've been reading on idma, I'd be VERY surprised to see it

>passed.

>

>My impression is that NAHA is probably going to waffle on the issue and sit

>on the fence.

>

>Mind you, this is just MY impression, derived by the " slings and arrows "

>that fly every time that organizations name is brought up!

>

>Secondly (again this is just MY opinion), while I HOPE that NAHA decides for

>the paper, it, in reality, will mean very little until NAHA can clean up

>it's act and present itself to all as a credible organization. Right now

>it's floundering and no one seems to really pay any notice to them.

>

>As for YL, I would LOVE to believe that they are running scared, but this

>letter is from one person in the organization and not even from anyone of

>any importance.

>

>Now if the letter had been from GY I'd climb on my roof and CHEER! Or even,

>run around the neighborhood naked (and believe me, right now in PARTICULAR,

>that would be a VERY frightening sight! LOL) painted blue and cheering.

>

>Anywho, that's my nickle on it!

>

>Thanks for posting that Soseneda!

>

>Cheers!

>Kathleen

>