Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 as people think I am! Hi all, as you know, I'm dooooooomed to impending indignity and pain with the birth of AL...Okay. What you may NOT know, is that I'm going for a VBAC (vaginal birth after Ceaserian). Well, this has nothing to do with aromatherapy, but it DOES illustrate to take nothing for granted, and if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions until you find someone willing to tell you the truth. Note 1 is a letter I wrote and Note 2 is the answer I received! Note 1:Hey Peggy[Plumbo, Midwife], Thank you for your answers about my question on uterine Rupture. Although it must be said, it has brought up quite a few questions, and I'm a bit worried I'm not getting the WHOLE truth. So. My questions are all interconnected. I'm going in for a VBAC. Now I've been told that the minute I stick my head in the door during labor, I'll get either a heplock or IV. However that wont prevent me from having the labor I want... Or so the fairy tale goes. I can walk the halls, I can spend my whole labor in the shower, I can take any postition I want etc... However, I think I smell a rat. Even YOU said they will want to monitor the baby, as the baby will show the first signs of a rupture (distress etc). Okay, moniter the baby, means an internal moniter, clipped to the head, right? Which means I'm connected to some machine so they can monitor heart rate. Which means, end of laboring in the shower, end of walking the halls, end of being able to go to the bathroom I want, which means a catheter, which means, basically being confined to a bed, which means increased risk of them managing the speed of my labor (which also means an increased risk of rupture), which also means an increased risk of another c-section..., at the very least on my back...etc. How far off the mark am I? Have I made this scenario out of the stuff Nightmares are made of, OR...am I pretty near the mark? I thank you for taking the time to read this, I know it's a bit long and convuluted! Cheers! Kathleen Note 2:Well, you are not far off the mark but much depends upon how progressive your labor is and also how aggressive your doctor is. Monitoring does not necessarily mean internal monitors but one cannot get external monitors into the shower either. We are very hospitable (I hope) with our VBAC mothers. They are off the monitor for a period of time each hour and may shower and walk but we really encourage sitting in the rocker or using the birthing ball. Currently, our VBAC mothers may not use the birthing tub. I believe that there has been too much literature lately about the dangers of prostagladins and uterine rupture so that will quell their desire to use induction agents. My advice would be to try to stay home as long as possible if all is well with you and the baby. When you walk in the door at 6 or 8 cm, there is not much time to bother you. It would be wonderful if you could have a midwife or some sort of advocate (?doula) with you but it may not be possible in your circumstances. So, no you're not very far off in most centers unfortunately. I wish you the best; let us know how you're doing. Peg ******************************************************** So, if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions and poking around in dusty corners...the more information you have in your arsenal, the better equiped you are to defend and attack! Cheers! Kathleen Petrides SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories http://www.101aromas.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 Get a Doula, woman .. its not too late at all! She'll make sure nobody does anything unnecessary and that you don't want (and she'll rub your back with tennis balls and feet with massage oil too if you need ) Find A Doula Near You! http://www.birthconnections.com/nvcn/ResourcePages/birth.htm#Find%20a%20Doula%20\ or%20Birth%20Assistant *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Kathleen Petrides wrote: >as people think I am! > >Hi all, as you know, I'm dooooooomed to impending indignity and pain with >the birth of AL...Okay. > >What you may NOT know, is that I'm going for a VBAC (vaginal birth after >Ceaserian). > >Well, this has nothing to do with aromatherapy, but it DOES illustrate to >take nothing for granted, and if you think you are being lied to, keep >asking questions until you find someone willing to tell you the truth. > >Note 1 is a letter I wrote and Note 2 is the answer I received! > >Note 1:Hey Peggy[Plumbo, Midwife], Thank you for your answers about my >question on uterine Rupture. Although it must be said, it has brought up >quite a few questions, and I'm a bit worried I'm not getting the WHOLE >truth. > >So. My questions are all interconnected. I'm going in for a VBAC. Now I've >been told that the minute I stick my head in the door during labor, I'll get >either a heplock or IV. However that wont prevent me from having the labor I >want... > >Or so the fairy tale goes. I can walk the halls, I can spend my whole labor >in the shower, I can take any postition I want etc... > >However, I think I smell a rat. Even YOU said they will want to monitor the >baby, as the baby will show the first signs of a rupture (distress etc). > >Okay, moniter the baby, means an internal moniter, clipped to the head, >right? Which means I'm connected to some machine so they can monitor heart >rate. Which means, end of laboring in the shower, end of walking the halls, >end of being able to go to the bathroom I want, which means a catheter, >which means, basically being confined to a bed, which means increased risk >of them managing the speed of my labor (which also means an increased risk >of rupture), which also means an increased risk of another c-section..., at >the very least on my back...etc. > >How far off the mark am I? Have I made this scenario out of the stuff >Nightmares are made of, OR...am I pretty near the mark? > >I thank you for taking the time to read this, I know it's a bit long and >convuluted! > >Cheers! Kathleen > >Note 2:Well, you are not far off the mark but much depends upon how >progressive your labor is and also how aggressive your doctor is. >Monitoring does not necessarily mean internal monitors but one cannot get >external monitors into the shower either. We are very hospitable (I hope) >with our VBAC mothers. They are off the monitor for a period of time each >hour and may shower and walk but we really encourage sitting in the rocker >or using the birthing ball. Currently, our VBAC mothers may not use the >birthing tub. > >I believe that there has been too much literature lately about the dangers >of prostagladins and uterine rupture so that will quell their desire to use >induction agents. > >My advice would be to try to stay home as long as possible if all is well >with you and the baby. When you walk in the door at 6 or 8 cm, there is not >much time to bother you. > >It would be wonderful if you could have a midwife or some sort of advocate >(?doula) with you but it may not be possible in your circumstances. > >So, no you're not very far off in most centers unfortunately. > >I wish you the best; let us know how you're doing. > >Peg >******************************************************** > >So, if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions and poking >around in dusty corners...the more information you have in your arsenal, the >better equiped you are to defend and attack! >Cheers! >Kathleen Petrides >SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories >http://www.101aromas.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 OOh Kathleen I feel for you- I second that emotion to get a doula. You need someone who will stand up for you and is used to it. It is amazing, that as far as natural birth goes we are slipping back into the " fear mode " in the hospitals- when it seemed that there was movement toward some willingness to give a woman rights. Fear is just what inhibits the birth process and women are fed gallons and gallons of " worst case scenario " crap. VBACs are safe and there are MANY hospitals who wont even allow them anymore! I am a childbirth educator and i could not do it anymore through the hospital because i am too biased in the other direction(homebirth, natural birth) I was fortunate to have had my babies 1- in a freestanding birth center(which isnt even that great- it pretends it is but is still ruled by litigation poop) and 2 - at home- sooo amazing. I know many women who have been able to stand up to the hospital beauracracy- and they had strong birth plans(like your pictures!!) and doulas or midwives or both. many blessings to you- keep up the good work michelle - Kathleen Petrides <petrides5 Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:37 PM I smelled a rat and it looks like I'm not as stupid/RANT, not AT > as people think I am! > > Hi all, as you know, I'm dooooooomed to impending indignity and pain with > the birth of AL...Okay. > > What you may NOT know, is that I'm going for a VBAC (vaginal birth after > Ceaserian). > > Well, this has nothing to do with aromatherapy, but it DOES illustrate to > take nothing for granted, and if you think you are being lied to, keep > asking questions until you find someone willing to tell you the truth. > > Note 1 is a letter I wrote and Note 2 is the answer I received! > > Note 1:Hey Peggy[Plumbo, Midwife], Thank you for your answers about my > question on uterine Rupture. Although it must be said, it has brought up > quite a few questions, and I'm a bit worried I'm not getting the WHOLE > truth. > > So. My questions are all interconnected. I'm going in for a VBAC. Now I've > been told that the minute I stick my head in the door during labor, I'll get > either a heplock or IV. However that wont prevent me from having the labor I > want... > > Or so the fairy tale goes. I can walk the halls, I can spend my whole labor > in the shower, I can take any postition I want etc... > > However, I think I smell a rat. Even YOU said they will want to monitor the > baby, as the baby will show the first signs of a rupture (distress etc). > > Okay, moniter the baby, means an internal moniter, clipped to the head, > right? Which means I'm connected to some machine so they can monitor heart > rate. Which means, end of laboring in the shower, end of walking the halls, > end of being able to go to the bathroom I want, which means a catheter, > which means, basically being confined to a bed, which means increased risk > of them managing the speed of my labor (which also means an increased risk > of rupture), which also means an increased risk of another c-section..., at > the very least on my back...etc. > > How far off the mark am I? Have I made this scenario out of the stuff > Nightmares are made of, OR...am I pretty near the mark? > > I thank you for taking the time to read this, I know it's a bit long and > convuluted! > > Cheers! Kathleen > > Note 2:Well, you are not far off the mark but much depends upon how > progressive your labor is and also how aggressive your doctor is. > Monitoring does not necessarily mean internal monitors but one cannot get > external monitors into the shower either. We are very hospitable (I hope) > with our VBAC mothers. They are off the monitor for a period of time each > hour and may shower and walk but we really encourage sitting in the rocker > or using the birthing ball. Currently, our VBAC mothers may not use the > birthing tub. > > I believe that there has been too much literature lately about the dangers > of prostagladins and uterine rupture so that will quell their desire to use > induction agents. > > My advice would be to try to stay home as long as possible if all is well > with you and the baby. When you walk in the door at 6 or 8 cm, there is not > much time to bother you. > > It would be wonderful if you could have a midwife or some sort of advocate > (?doula) with you but it may not be possible in your circumstances. > > So, no you're not very far off in most centers unfortunately. > > I wish you the best; let us know how you're doing. > > Peg > ******************************************************** > > So, if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions and poking > around in dusty corners...the more information you have in your arsenal, the > better equiped you are to defend and attack! > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories > http://www.101aromas.com > > > > My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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