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as people think I am!

 

Hi all, as you know, I'm dooooooomed to impending indignity and pain with

the birth of AL...Okay.

 

What you may NOT know, is that I'm going for a VBAC (vaginal birth after

Ceaserian).

 

Well, this has nothing to do with aromatherapy, but it DOES illustrate to

take nothing for granted, and if you think you are being lied to, keep

asking questions until you find someone willing to tell you the truth.

 

Note 1 is a letter I wrote and Note 2 is the answer I received!

 

Note 1:Hey Peggy[Plumbo, Midwife], Thank you for your answers about my

question on uterine Rupture. Although it must be said, it has brought up

quite a few questions, and I'm a bit worried I'm not getting the WHOLE

truth.

 

So. My questions are all interconnected. I'm going in for a VBAC. Now I've

been told that the minute I stick my head in the door during labor, I'll get

either a heplock or IV. However that wont prevent me from having the labor I

want...

 

Or so the fairy tale goes. I can walk the halls, I can spend my whole labor

in the shower, I can take any postition I want etc...

 

However, I think I smell a rat. Even YOU said they will want to monitor the

baby, as the baby will show the first signs of a rupture (distress etc).

 

Okay, moniter the baby, means an internal moniter, clipped to the head,

right? Which means I'm connected to some machine so they can monitor heart

rate. Which means, end of laboring in the shower, end of walking the halls,

end of being able to go to the bathroom I want, which means a catheter,

which means, basically being confined to a bed, which means increased risk

of them managing the speed of my labor (which also means an increased risk

of rupture), which also means an increased risk of another c-section..., at

the very least on my back...etc.

 

How far off the mark am I? Have I made this scenario out of the stuff

Nightmares are made of, OR...am I pretty near the mark?

 

I thank you for taking the time to read this, I know it's a bit long and

convuluted!

 

Cheers! Kathleen

 

Note 2:Well, you are not far off the mark but much depends upon how

progressive your labor is and also how aggressive your doctor is.

Monitoring does not necessarily mean internal monitors but one cannot get

external monitors into the shower either. We are very hospitable (I hope)

with our VBAC mothers. They are off the monitor for a period of time each

hour and may shower and walk but we really encourage sitting in the rocker

or using the birthing ball. Currently, our VBAC mothers may not use the

birthing tub.

 

I believe that there has been too much literature lately about the dangers

of prostagladins and uterine rupture so that will quell their desire to use

induction agents.

 

My advice would be to try to stay home as long as possible if all is well

with you and the baby. When you walk in the door at 6 or 8 cm, there is not

much time to bother you.

 

It would be wonderful if you could have a midwife or some sort of advocate

(?doula) with you but it may not be possible in your circumstances.

 

So, no you're not very far off in most centers unfortunately.

 

I wish you the best; let us know how you're doing.

 

Peg

********************************************************

 

So, if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions and poking

around in dusty corners...the more information you have in your arsenal, the

better equiped you are to defend and attack!

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories

http://www.101aromas.com

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Get a Doula, woman .. its not too late at all! She'll make sure nobody

does anything unnecessary and that you don't want (and she'll rub your

back with tennis balls and feet with massage oil too if you need ;) )

 

Find A Doula Near You!

http://www.birthconnections.com/nvcn/ResourcePages/birth.htm#Find%20a%20Doula%20\

or%20Birth%20Assistant

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

Kathleen Petrides wrote:

 

>as people think I am!

>

>Hi all, as you know, I'm dooooooomed to impending indignity and pain with

>the birth of AL...Okay.

>

>What you may NOT know, is that I'm going for a VBAC (vaginal birth after

>Ceaserian).

>

>Well, this has nothing to do with aromatherapy, but it DOES illustrate to

>take nothing for granted, and if you think you are being lied to, keep

>asking questions until you find someone willing to tell you the truth.

>

>Note 1 is a letter I wrote and Note 2 is the answer I received!

>

>Note 1:Hey Peggy[Plumbo, Midwife], Thank you for your answers about my

>question on uterine Rupture. Although it must be said, it has brought up

>quite a few questions, and I'm a bit worried I'm not getting the WHOLE

>truth.

>

>So. My questions are all interconnected. I'm going in for a VBAC. Now I've

>been told that the minute I stick my head in the door during labor, I'll get

>either a heplock or IV. However that wont prevent me from having the labor I

>want...

>

>Or so the fairy tale goes. I can walk the halls, I can spend my whole labor

>in the shower, I can take any postition I want etc...

>

>However, I think I smell a rat. Even YOU said they will want to monitor the

>baby, as the baby will show the first signs of a rupture (distress etc).

>

>Okay, moniter the baby, means an internal moniter, clipped to the head,

>right? Which means I'm connected to some machine so they can monitor heart

>rate. Which means, end of laboring in the shower, end of walking the halls,

>end of being able to go to the bathroom I want, which means a catheter,

>which means, basically being confined to a bed, which means increased risk

>of them managing the speed of my labor (which also means an increased risk

>of rupture), which also means an increased risk of another c-section..., at

>the very least on my back...etc.

>

>How far off the mark am I? Have I made this scenario out of the stuff

>Nightmares are made of, OR...am I pretty near the mark?

>

>I thank you for taking the time to read this, I know it's a bit long and

>convuluted!

>

>Cheers! Kathleen

>

>Note 2:Well, you are not far off the mark but much depends upon how

>progressive your labor is and also how aggressive your doctor is.

>Monitoring does not necessarily mean internal monitors but one cannot get

>external monitors into the shower either. We are very hospitable (I hope)

>with our VBAC mothers. They are off the monitor for a period of time each

>hour and may shower and walk but we really encourage sitting in the rocker

>or using the birthing ball. Currently, our VBAC mothers may not use the

>birthing tub.

>

>I believe that there has been too much literature lately about the dangers

>of prostagladins and uterine rupture so that will quell their desire to use

>induction agents.

>

>My advice would be to try to stay home as long as possible if all is well

>with you and the baby. When you walk in the door at 6 or 8 cm, there is not

>much time to bother you.

>

>It would be wonderful if you could have a midwife or some sort of advocate

>(?doula) with you but it may not be possible in your circumstances.

>

>So, no you're not very far off in most centers unfortunately.

>

>I wish you the best; let us know how you're doing.

>

>Peg

>********************************************************

>

>So, if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions and poking

>around in dusty corners...the more information you have in your arsenal, the

>better equiped you are to defend and attack!

>Cheers!

>Kathleen Petrides

>SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories

>http://www.101aromas.com

>

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OOh Kathleen I feel for you-

I second that emotion to get a doula.

You need someone who will stand up for you and is used to it.

It is amazing, that as far as natural birth goes we are slipping back into

the " fear mode " in the hospitals- when it seemed that there was movement

toward some willingness to give a woman rights. Fear is just what inhibits

the birth process and women are fed gallons and gallons of " worst case

scenario " crap. VBACs are safe and there are MANY hospitals who wont even

allow them anymore! I am a childbirth educator and i could not do it anymore

through the hospital because i am too biased in the other

direction(homebirth, natural birth)

I was fortunate to have had my babies 1- in a freestanding birth

center(which isnt even that great- it pretends it is but is still ruled by

litigation poop) and 2 - at home- sooo amazing. I know many women who have

been able to stand up to the hospital beauracracy- and they had strong birth

plans(like your pictures!!)

and doulas or midwives or both.

many blessings to you- keep up the good work

michelle

-

Kathleen Petrides <petrides5

 

Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:37 PM

I smelled a rat and it looks like I'm not as

stupid/RANT, not AT

 

 

> as people think I am!

>

> Hi all, as you know, I'm dooooooomed to impending indignity and pain with

> the birth of AL...Okay.

>

> What you may NOT know, is that I'm going for a VBAC (vaginal birth after

> Ceaserian).

>

> Well, this has nothing to do with aromatherapy, but it DOES illustrate to

> take nothing for granted, and if you think you are being lied to, keep

> asking questions until you find someone willing to tell you the truth.

>

> Note 1 is a letter I wrote and Note 2 is the answer I received!

>

> Note 1:Hey Peggy[Plumbo, Midwife], Thank you for your answers about my

> question on uterine Rupture. Although it must be said, it has brought up

> quite a few questions, and I'm a bit worried I'm not getting the WHOLE

> truth.

>

> So. My questions are all interconnected. I'm going in for a VBAC. Now I've

> been told that the minute I stick my head in the door during labor, I'll

get

> either a heplock or IV. However that wont prevent me from having the labor

I

> want...

>

> Or so the fairy tale goes. I can walk the halls, I can spend my whole

labor

> in the shower, I can take any postition I want etc...

>

> However, I think I smell a rat. Even YOU said they will want to monitor

the

> baby, as the baby will show the first signs of a rupture (distress etc).

>

> Okay, moniter the baby, means an internal moniter, clipped to the head,

> right? Which means I'm connected to some machine so they can monitor heart

> rate. Which means, end of laboring in the shower, end of walking the

halls,

> end of being able to go to the bathroom I want, which means a catheter,

> which means, basically being confined to a bed, which means increased risk

> of them managing the speed of my labor (which also means an increased risk

> of rupture), which also means an increased risk of another c-section...,

at

> the very least on my back...etc.

>

> How far off the mark am I? Have I made this scenario out of the stuff

> Nightmares are made of, OR...am I pretty near the mark?

>

> I thank you for taking the time to read this, I know it's a bit long and

> convuluted!

>

> Cheers! Kathleen

>

> Note 2:Well, you are not far off the mark but much depends upon how

> progressive your labor is and also how aggressive your doctor is.

> Monitoring does not necessarily mean internal monitors but one cannot get

> external monitors into the shower either. We are very hospitable (I hope)

> with our VBAC mothers. They are off the monitor for a period of time each

> hour and may shower and walk but we really encourage sitting in the rocker

> or using the birthing ball. Currently, our VBAC mothers may not use the

> birthing tub.

>

> I believe that there has been too much literature lately about the dangers

> of prostagladins and uterine rupture so that will quell their desire to

use

> induction agents.

>

> My advice would be to try to stay home as long as possible if all is well

> with you and the baby. When you walk in the door at 6 or 8 cm, there is

not

> much time to bother you.

>

> It would be wonderful if you could have a midwife or some sort of advocate

> (?doula) with you but it may not be possible in your circumstances.

>

> So, no you're not very far off in most centers unfortunately.

>

> I wish you the best; let us know how you're doing.

>

> Peg

> ********************************************************

>

> So, if you think you are being lied to, keep asking questions and poking

> around in dusty corners...the more information you have in your arsenal,

the

> better equiped you are to defend and attack!

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories

> http://www.101aromas.com

>

>

>

> My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey

> http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html

>

>

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