Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Hey Butch, To add my two cents worth to this ( or three or four... ) 1. Having come from many years in a Management/Supervisory background - you're right. No need to even go to the military for examples - go to the business world! Who are the Managers? They are the people whose backgrounds have proven track records of: a. Getting things done through setting reasonable goals and then following through on those goals. Any business, anywhere - business training does provide this training. AT is no different. b. Being available (sometimes 24/7; if needed), in the sense that this is what they are being " paid " to be - things come up; need to be dealt with... etc..etc - and of course the person should be paid and paid well. c. Does a manager need to be an aromatherapist? Rephrase and restart.........(bear with me a moment) Does a Manager of say.....(let's OVER simplify) of even a Doctor's office or any other office also need to be a Doctor, Nurse or Medical Assistant? Nope! And normally they aren't. And all the better for it since they see a picture totally differently from the Doctor's, Nurses or Medical assistants.......they see it from the bigger picture - the good of all, not each individual. Going to each individual creates favorites, which cannot be done while running any effective company/cooperation.. etc. No exeptions. d. Define the Managers' Goal - From my experience and training; it's - putting it simply, the ability to work FOR and TOWARDS the good of the industry they're managing - keeping in mind that not all will agree.......setting down rules and keeping to them, keeping all members informed of events taking place well ahead of when the event is going to happen and then sending out reminders to all again and again, if need be. (this can be assigned to someone else in the Organization, but " checked " before they're sent by said Manager). e. Being a good speaker and leader is essential (no pun intended here) as in " any " Management position - I see this one to be no different in basic theory than any other. Period. The Manager would be one who could 'see the big picture' - assume responsibility and in no way can/could this be done part-time and unpaid. f. A Manger's job; or one of them is 'getting others within the organization, company, coorporation, etc's to work under the guidelines set' - if they can't or won't - steps should be already in place for getting them OUT of there, as they're doing more harm than good. If the current guidelines are non-definitive, redefine the guidelines. And stick to them. Positive reinforcement works as well - those who choose to 'go by the rules' as it were, will be most likely to be assets; those who don't will not and are only wasting time/space. Ummm.. I think I'll just stop here.. lol, nuf said? Marilyn Butch Owen wrote: > Hi y'all, > > Since many of you are not members of the Aromatherapy List - you would > not have seen this post. But if you are interested in aromatherapy or > use of essential oils for therapeutic purposes, you need to be aware of > what's going down with the ONLY organization in the USA that is supposed > to be representing aromatherapy practitioners - basically, it is flat on > it's ass and not likely to get up anytime soon unless they change the > overall mentality - and the managment. This post was sent to the Idma > AT List this date. Y'all keep smiling, Butch > --------- > Hi Marge .. y'all, > > > wouldn't the NAHA safety committee be the appropriate ones to take an > > official stand on Raindrop Therapy, rather than one individual? > > > > Sylla? Tony???? > > > > Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy > > Accessories, Information, Books and more! > > Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> > > Seems to me that it is the boss who decides who does what - the monkey > is always on the boss's back - it cannot be fed or tended by anyone but > the boss. That's just the way it is when you are a manager or leader. > In this case, it appears that the boss should assign the duties to > whatever committee she feels is the appropriate point-of-contact and she > should follow up and monitor those activities. > > But it also seems to me that NAHA is just hanging on by it's > fingernails. I see no active movement in any direction except for the > periodic planning of conferences and quarterly publications. And even > the conferences are not well-publicized in advance, which results in > many folks not attending because they have made other plans. For > example, NAHA is planning one in May 2002 in Raleigh, North Carolina .. > seven months from now that is. I make plans far in advance of seven > months - but maybe I'm the only one who missed announcements on this .. > maybe the rest of you are aware of this. > > > Seems to me they would be the ones, not the chairman, to deal with > > this...it is, after all, an issue of safety. > > A chairperson, manager, leader must deal with and take responsibility > for ALL matters in their organization. The buck stops ONLY at their > desk! Committees, branches, and staff are there to support the > chairperson, manager or leader in their performance of duty - and the > primary duty of that chairperson, manager or leader is to ensure the job > gets done! > > I have always believed that NAHA needed to be managed/lead by a > full-time person who is paid to do the job .. it cannot be a part-time > job and the manager/leader DOES NOT (and in my opinion SHOULD NOT) have > to be an AT practitioner. 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Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 are they still fighting like cats over there AND is nicole gone? - " Butch Owen " <butchbsi > > Since many of you are not members of the Aromatherapy List Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Hi y'all, Since many of you are not members of the Aromatherapy List - you would not have seen this post. But if you are interested in aromatherapy or use of essential oils for therapeutic purposes, you need to be aware of what's going down with the ONLY organization in the USA that is supposed to be representing aromatherapy practitioners - basically, it is flat on it's ass and not likely to get up anytime soon unless they change the overall mentality - and the managment. This post was sent to the Idma AT List this date. Y'all keep smiling, Butch --------- Hi Marge .. y'all, > wouldn't the NAHA safety committee be the appropriate ones to take an > official stand on Raindrop Therapy, rather than one individual? > > Sylla? Tony???? > > Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy > Accessories, Information, Books and more! > Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Seems to me that it is the boss who decides who does what - the monkey is always on the boss's back - it cannot be fed or tended by anyone but the boss. That's just the way it is when you are a manager or leader. In this case, it appears that the boss should assign the duties to whatever committee she feels is the appropriate point-of-contact and she should follow up and monitor those activities. But it also seems to me that NAHA is just hanging on by it's fingernails. I see no active movement in any direction except for the periodic planning of conferences and quarterly publications. And even the conferences are not well-publicized in advance, which results in many folks not attending because they have made other plans. For example, NAHA is planning one in May 2002 in Raleigh, North Carolina .. seven months from now that is. I make plans far in advance of seven months - but maybe I'm the only one who missed announcements on this .. maybe the rest of you are aware of this. > Seems to me they would be the ones, not the chairman, to deal with > this...it is, after all, an issue of safety. A chairperson, manager, leader must deal with and take responsibility for ALL matters in their organization. The buck stops ONLY at their desk! Committees, branches, and staff are there to support the chairperson, manager or leader in their performance of duty - and the primary duty of that chairperson, manager or leader is to ensure the job gets done! I have always believed that NAHA needed to be managed/lead by a full-time person who is paid to do the job .. it cannot be a part-time job and the manager/leader DOES NOT (and in my opinion SHOULD NOT) have to be an AT practitioner. Being an AT practitioner is one thing - being a manager of assets and ideas and a leader of people is another. Managers can ensure sufficient assets are available to accomplish a mission - leaders have the mission of inspiring their own people and gaining support from those who are outside their organization. If one cannot be an effective manager and leader at the same time, they will surely fail. Almost without exception, those who are chosen to command Support Commands in the military services are not qualified in the specialities of those who they will command. I have held this position twice and I was in no way qualified as a doctor, preventive medicine specialist, cook or chef, logistician, engineer, accountant or finance specialist, transporter, vehicle maintenance and management, personnel management specialist and/or and of the other technical specialities that are required to do their own thing while being coordinated and supervised by a generalist - a combat arms or combat support officer and his/her operations/plans officer. We do this - I think - to have a fresh perspective of what is going down and not get wrapped up in the parochial attitudes of those specialists. It's not unusual for them to think they are THE ones who everyone depends on .. it takes someone who is not one of them to see that each are just a small part of the whole and to coordinate their activities with a broader view of the mission. And it is sometimes necessary to fire one of them who thinks they are indispensable just to show the others who might think the same that there are no indispensible people in a team effort. NAHA needs a professional, full-time, manager/leader who is paid enough to incentivize them to do a good job, and to want to keep that job. That manager/leader must understand that they'll be fired for non-performance. How do we get the funds to pay such a person? I can't tell you right now but I damn sure betcha that a buncha smart folks together could come up with some good ideas. We would have to know exactly how NAHA funds are managed now - what is the income and what are the expenses. I believe the number of paying NAHA members is small now compared to years past - there is one loss of income. Sometimes it takes an outside eye to clean up an organization .. those of you who have coveted emails in your files know what I mean - its hard to zap them when we want to reduce our files. ;-p One person's Sacred Cow will not be the next persons's Sacred Cow. I believe that a good manager/leader who would give constant attention to the mission would find ways to legitimately raise funds .. and to even get grants and other source funds for some of the things an organization like NAHA should be concerned with - like research or being a central point for collection of aromatherapy/EO information that can help to legitimize this cottage-industry. There are many such organizations out and about - we can easily review the charters of these organizations - there's no need to recreate the wheel. But a problem we will run into is the good ol' boys and good ol' gals network that has long held onto the management of NAHA - they will not want to relinquish their hold on the organization. Without fresh blood, we are destined to see a repeat of the same performance we have seen for MANY years. I believe that we would have to watch that manager/leader person carefully to ensure they did not get wrapped up in some of the vested interests that are floating around this cottage-industry .. some of the old hands in AT think that AT belongs to them and they know how to work the system. This should not come as a shock to anyone - it is the way of human critters. I won't say those who want to hold on are unethical ... I will say they have become accustomed to a certain way of doing things and they, like most other folks, will resist change .. but change is inevitable if one is to see progress .. again, I fall back on the military (and some corporations) in that we routinely move even the best commanders every two years - it is the best way to improve any organization. I believe that we need a viable, functional, rational and efficient NAHA - a NAHA that represents the best interests of the AT community. A NAHA that is managed/lead by a full-time person who is a good speaker, a good planner and one who can properly supervise the execution of plans. This person would not get wrapped up into the Namaste mentality because that would not be a part of their job description - it would not be a part of what they are paid to accomplish - they are to give the organization 40 hours a week (minimum) and not lose sight of the reason they are there - to manage and lead and improve the organization. That person would have to submit an operations plan that included all the things they intended to do - a basic timeline of when they intended to hit each milestone along the way - and a list of assets (financial/personnel) they would need to accomplish their plans. This too is similar to plans made in corporations and the military .. we determine our goals/missions and we submit an admin/logistics/funds plan that is necessary in order to achieve our mission. Often, we find that the admin/log/funds plan must be shaved a bit .. when that happens, we then shave the mission a bit too but we do not say we can't get there from here without proving it to someone who will ask real tough questions - who will that be? Not the old gang~! I'm gonna stop now .. if I said all I wanted to say this message would have to be in Parts 1 though forty-eleven .. you folks know what I am talking about. And don't get the idea that I am trying to set myself up to run NAHA because that is not in my Operations Plan - hell, if I do anything else besides what I am doing now, it will be going back to some the things I wish I were doing - like semi-pro bass fishing. And I don't think the person selected to be at the helm of NAHA should have a business related to aromatherapy - that would create too damn much opportunity for conflict of interest - this would happen even if one tried to avoid it. If we are satisfied with the way things are now - then lets leave it the hell alone and move on to other things. If we are not satisfied, then we gotta realize that the way things are done now is not the right way and we should not expect changes as long as things continue as they are now. The third option - I think - is to not give a damn one way or the other and I sorta think that is where many folks are right now. If we do care, we will not get where we want to be if we don't talk about it and I don't mean playing Who Shot John last year .. we must decide what we want NAHA to be and how it can get to where we want it to be. We must remember that NAHA does not belong to any one person or group of persons - it belongs to the members. Unfortunately, the members have relinquished control of their ownership and as a result, maybe most have NO RIGHT to criticise how it is run now. If folks do want to criticize, they can do it with recommendations (on this list) on how we can change NAHA and make it be what we want it to be. These recommendations must be well-thought out and we must avoid sarcasim and knee-jerk comments .. we must be prepared to accept criticism of some recommendations - hopefully criticism that is not bad-hearted. We must be prepared to DEMAND answers to our questions and to respect the person giving the answers when we disagree or make counter recommendations, even if we think they are the most flaky answers we have ever heard - remember, there will be levels of management/leadership experience that clash and that does not mean one person is better than the other .. just means they have experience in a different area. If none of this comes about - if NAHA continues to be run as it is now, it will either die on the vine or will hang on just enough that 3-4 years from now, folks will still be discussing the same crap we are now. If this post dies on the vine, then the above will be the case. If that is the case, I don't think I wanna be the only one who gives a damn so I will just shut the frig up and go about my work. Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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