Grades and Kinds of EOs (Kind'a Long)

[Guest guest]

from my buddy butch and the original posts this was a response to

is at the bottom. ya learn something every day don't ya

*smile*

chris

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Hi y'all,

 

I'm gonna take the experienced folks to the school house in order to

talk to the new folks ... sorry 'bout that - but not too sorry ... ;-)

 

There are three KINDS of essential oils - Good, Mediocre and Bad.

 

There are two GRADES of essential oils - Commercial and AT. Some

folks

like to say there is also a Pharmaceutical Grade but that's just a

type

of Commerical Grade.

 

There is no such thing as an " Therapeutic " Grade of essential oil and

if

you want to advertise that you're selling such a thing you are

engaging

in marketing hype and sticking your neck out on the chopping block for

dealing in pharmaceuticals or worse, doing what some gummit folks call

practicing medicine without a license!

 

Another more practical reason why there is no such thing as

Therapeutic

Grade is because the wisest folks in the world have yet to determine

exactly what makes an oil work and what doesn't .. it's a holistic

kind

of thing involving chemicals reacting with the psychological,

emotional

and physiological levels of human critters. Everybody will not react

to

every oil every time in the same manner.

 

Some folks have tried to extrapolate based on known effects of

extracted

single chemical constituents, like linalool, carvacrol, camphor and

geranoil, etc., and they are generally fooling themselves or worse,

trying to fool others because you CANNOT disregard the effects of

those

minor trace chemicals that might be in a 1/1000th of a percent range.

There is only one real synergy - that's the one the Great Everywhere

Spirit determined needed to be in that plant - blends that AT folks

throw together and try to call synergies are really blends - that's

all!

 

Some will jump in and say that due to the water soluable aspects, we

don't really get the natural synergy of the plant through distillation

and they are right and they shouldn't be trying to confuse the issues

with their knowledge. We are working with essential oils and what we

have is what we have and our base of knowledge is based on what we

have!

 

But messing with adulteration of the natural synergy we do get through

distillation ain't nice as the difference in the natural product and

the

synthetic/adulterated one is that the natural product has a perfect

synergy of chemical components - all chemicals to include the trace

chemicals are balanced according to Mama Nature's plan - all of this

is

upset when someone adds or takes something out of an oil. We CANNOT

improve on nature - period!

 

Plants, animals, birds and other critters, have evolved over millions

of

years. Natural selection allowed some to survive and others,

especially

those that couldn't defend themselves or procreate, fell along the

wayside. During that process of evolution, plants and other critters

became almost perfect organisms - there was nothing in that natural

life

synergy that was useless. Every chemical, including the trace

chemicals

in parts of 1 to 1,000,000 are in there for a purpose - they're not

just

bouncing around in there and bumping into each other to fill up a

void.

If we manipulate that natural synergy by adding, subtracting,

extending

or adulterating, we are guilty of spoiling one of the Great Everywhere

Spirit's perfect creations.

 

There's much to be learned about AT and safety in using EO as it's

not a

well-researched area - that's primarily due to the fact that it's an

unrecognized alternative that involves the use of natural products

that

can't be patented. The megabuck pharmaceutical companies won't spend

millions of bucks and years researching something they can't patent -

but there are a few private institutions conducting research. One of

them is the Medicinal and Aromatic Plant and Drug Research Center in

Eskisehir, Turkey. The director is a world renowned scientist and

friend of mine, Dr. Professor K. Husnu Can Baser. Professor Baser is

also Dean of the Pharmacy Faculty of Anadolu University. To print his

distinguished resume would take enough space on your hard drive for

you

to get upset with me - if this long explanation has not already done

that ... ;-) He is a scientist so he's not affected by the holistic

beliefs of aromatherapy - or the marketing hype of EO sellers. I use

a

lot of his research and he has some amazing stuff. I presented some

of

it in my lecture in Toronto last September and will present new data

in

a lecture in Milan in March 2001.

 

Back to the point I left a while ago .. ;-)

 

Good means it will serve the purpose for which it's intended to be

used.

 

Mediocre means it might do the job but not as well as if it were Good.

 

Bad means you oughta run away from it - real fast. It's bad because

it

is not going to serve the purpose for which anyone wants to use it. In

AT, it's bad because it's not Pure or it might be Pure but Mediocre.

 

In the future, when you see this explained as it is now, remember

where

you first saw it ... these are words that I hereby copyright!

 

A perfumer might want a 40/42 Lavender .. this is not a natural

lavender

that is unadulterated - it has been manipulated by man in a laboratory

and it is exactly what the customer wants - so it's a GOOD OIL!

 

A spaghetti sauce maker might want an Oregano that is 80% + in

carvacrol

and he doesn't care a dang about the rest of the chemical constituents

in that oil - it's what he wants and it is a GOOD OIL.

 

Neither of the above fellers wants less than he ordered - that

perfumer

doesn't want 39/40 Lavender and the spaghetti sauce maker doesn't want

75% carvacrol - but if they can't get anything else and have to use it

then they probably will - and they would be a MEDIOCRE OILS.

 

If the Lavender was 35/37 and the Organo was 70% they might decide

those

oils were BAD OILS.

 

Along comes the Aromatherapist ... who generally knows a helluva lot

less about what s/he is doing than the above two fellers but thinks

s/he

has all the answers because they read a couple of novels on AT. The

rookie will want an oil that smells good regardless of the range of

chemical constituents and the knowledgeable one will want an oil that

smells as it should and that has a range of chemical components that

fits within that fairly narrow range/footprint/profile determined to

be

acceptable and expected for oils produced from aromatic plants in the

area of origin. The rookie might not be able to tell the difference

twixt the Good, Mediocre and Bad ... the knowledgeable one will likely

be able to tell the difference twixt the Good and the Bad but probably

will not be able to identify the Mediocre oil.

 

What is Pure in Aromatherapy? Well - it's what we want to call an EO

that's straight from the still, unadulterated, and extracted from a

single plant species. But - you gotta be careful and read the fine

print all the time.

 

Is Rose Otto at a 10% dilution in jojoba pure? Depends on how you

look

at it. If the Rose Otto is pure and the joboba is pure ... well ...

 

Is a bottle of Italian Olive Oil that says " Pure Olive Oil " on the

front

label - but " " 10% Olive Oil in Other Vegetable Oils " on the back

label a

pure oil? Legally it is ... caveat emptor!

 

But we don't allow such crap in AT - when folks don't make it

perfectly

clear what is in the bottle, we talk about them and call them dirty

names and try to make folks aware that they are untrustworthy!

 

Are all Pure EOs good for Aromatherapy? NO! NO! There are many pure

oils that are mediocre oils. Quality and Purity are too different

animals and those that try to tell you otherwise are worried about one

or the other of these classifications not being present in their oils.

 

I reject MANY pure, mediocre oils every month. Examples lately

are: a

nice Myrtus communis (Myrtle); the myrtenol and myrtenyl acetate was

too

low, Thymus serpyllum (Wild/Creeping/Mother of Thyme), gamma-terpinene

was too high, Juniperus communis (Juniper Berry) as the alpha-pinene

was

too high and Carum carvi (Caraway Seed) as dihydrocarvones and

carveols

were too low. They were all Pure oils - but they were Mediocre oils

as

the chemical constituents were out of range of the expected norm - and

maybe out of range of that area folks like to call therapeutic. But

someone will sell these oils somewhere - they won't be dumped out onto

the ground. We hope they will make their way into the Commerical

market

instead of the AT market - but who knows?

 

Like Graham said ... there's no Grades A, B or C - even in Olive Oil

there's no such thing but folks try to call then that sometimes. I

have

told you the Kinds and Grades of essential oils. What you oughta be

looking for is a tested oil ... it is NOT a perfect system - GCs are

sorta like EKGs and Polygraph Tests, but it's a helluva lot better

than

not testing.

 

Y'all keep smilin'....... Butch

 

 

> > We are speaking here of 100 PURE GRADE A Essential Oils.

> > There is a difference in oils. Many Essential Oils sold in the

U.S.

> > are synthetic oils or adulterated oils. In other words they have

> been

> > cut with chemicals, therefore they are not 100% Pure Grade A Oils.

> > The FDA allows companies who sell products to label their product

as

> Natural

> > even if only 10% of the Main ingredient is present. Just because

a

> product

> > says 100% Natural doesn't mean that product is safe to use on the

> skin.

> > Some of these oils are sold even in Health Food Stores. Be sure

the

> > Essential Oils you're using are 100% Pure Grade A Therapeutic

Oils.

>

> Hi GIGI.

>

> There is no such thing as " grade A oils " except in some companies

> marketing hype.

>

> There is no " standard " that grades oils as " A " " B " " C " etc. All

> Marketing hype. Actually I am more concerned that those companies

who

> spout such marketing hype as obviously they do not know much about

the

> world EO market at all and therefore are pretty much suspect in

their

> motives. Graham

[Guest guest]

We go that far??? Lol that man is an enciclopedia. Not that I'm too

worried about not buying GOOD oils as I know where to get them

now )) but I never thought that purity/adulteration or whatever

might not be the only reason for an oil to be BAD... wow! But it all

makes sense. I didn't know there weren't grades for EOs, but he's

right - it's a natural product, can't be patented... this makes us

think... keep cutting and pasting whatever butch is in the mood to

write, Chris - he writes like a waterfall LOL but that's great.

 

 

Lena

 

P.S. as a rookie, what I do really concern about is the smell...

well, maybe that medicinal properties in the case of some oils LOL.

Each time I learn something more about EOs I feel I'll never buy any

EO in a health food store anymore. They now seem like simple liquids,

other than true essential oils... like a plastic stone on a ring

comparing to a diamond.

 

Sorry for the post, but I had to comment!!!!

[Guest guest]

don't be sorry for the post at all! i love reading all this good info

i pick up and pass along and i love to discuss it too!

it is amamzing when you REALLY learn about the EO industry and where

it is at the moment. thats why i started this group cause it really

is hard to find the high quality oil you and i want, and not get

cheated!

and i will be sure to keep cutting and pasting good posts like that

one.

*smile*

chris

 

 

the_oil_co-op , " Lena " <black__cat@i...> wrote:

> We go that far??? Lol that man is an enciclopedia. Not that I'm too

> worried about not buying GOOD oils as I know where to get them

> now )) but I never thought that purity/adulteration or whatever

> might not be the only reason for an oil to be BAD... wow! But it

all

> makes sense. I didn't know there weren't grades for EOs, but he's

> right - it's a natural product, can't be patented... this makes us

> think... keep cutting and pasting whatever butch is in the mood to

> write, Chris - he writes like a waterfall LOL but that's great.

>

>

> Lena

>

> P.S. as a rookie, what I do really concern about is the smell...

> well, maybe that medicinal properties in the case of some oils LOL.

> Each time I learn something more about EOs I feel I'll never buy

any

> EO in a health food store anymore. They now seem like simple

liquids,

> other than true essential oils... like a plastic stone on a ring

> comparing to a diamond.

>

> Sorry for the post, but I had to comment!!!!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information, just in time too, I was looking at some

E/O's and F/0's on E-Bay, but, I guess you get what you pay for!

 

Misty

 

the_oil_co-op , " Ziggy " <chrisziggy@i...> wrote:

> from my buddy butch and the original posts this was a response

to

> is at the bottom. ya learn something every day don't ya

> *smile*

> chris

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> Hi y'all,

>

> I'm gonna take the experienced folks to the school house in order to

> talk to the new folks ... sorry 'bout that - but not too

sorry ... ;-)

>

> There are three KINDS of essential oils - Good, Mediocre and Bad.

>

> There are two GRADES of essential oils - Commercial and AT. Some

> folks

> like to say there is also a Pharmaceutical Grade but that's just a

> type

> of Commerical Grade.

>

> There is no such thing as an " Therapeutic " Grade of essential oil

and

> if

> you want to advertise that you're selling such a thing you are

> engaging

> in marketing hype and sticking your neck out on the chopping block

for

> dealing in pharmaceuticals or worse, doing what some gummit folks

call

> practicing medicine without a license!

>

> Another more practical reason why there is no such thing as

> Therapeutic

> Grade is because the wisest folks in the world have yet to determine

> exactly what makes an oil work and what doesn't .. it's a holistic

> kind

> of thing involving chemicals reacting with the psychological,

> emotional

> and physiological levels of human critters. Everybody will not

react

> to

> every oil every time in the same manner.

>

> Some folks have tried to extrapolate based on known effects of

> extracted

> single chemical constituents, like linalool, carvacrol, camphor and

> geranoil, etc., and they are generally fooling themselves or worse,

> trying to fool others because you CANNOT disregard the effects of

> those

> minor trace chemicals that might be in a 1/1000th of a percent

range.

> There is only one real synergy - that's the one the Great Everywhere

> Spirit determined needed to be in that plant - blends that AT folks

> throw together and try to call synergies are really blends - that's

> all!

>

> Some will jump in and say that due to the water soluable aspects, we

> don't really get the natural synergy of the plant through

distillation

> and they are right and they shouldn't be trying to confuse the

issues

> with their knowledge. We are working with essential oils and what

we

> have is what we have and our base of knowledge is based on what we

> have!

>

> But messing with adulteration of the natural synergy we do get

through

> distillation ain't nice as the difference in the natural product

and

> the

> synthetic/adulterated one is that the natural product has a perfect

> synergy of chemical components - all chemicals to include the trace

> chemicals are balanced according to Mama Nature's plan - all of

this

> is

> upset when someone adds or takes something out of an oil. We CANNOT

> improve on nature - period!

>

> Plants, animals, birds and other critters, have evolved over

millions

> of

> years. Natural selection allowed some to survive and others,

> especially

> those that couldn't defend themselves or procreate, fell along the

> wayside. During that process of evolution, plants and other

critters

> became almost perfect organisms - there was nothing in that natural

> life

> synergy that was useless. Every chemical, including the trace

> chemicals

> in parts of 1 to 1,000,000 are in there for a purpose - they're not

> just

> bouncing around in there and bumping into each other to fill up a

> void.

> If we manipulate that natural synergy by adding, subtracting,

> extending

> or adulterating, we are guilty of spoiling one of the Great

Everywhere

> Spirit's perfect creations.

>

> There's much to be learned about AT and safety in using EO as it's

> not a

> well-researched area - that's primarily due to the fact that it's an

> unrecognized alternative that involves the use of natural products

> that

> can't be patented. The megabuck pharmaceutical companies won't

spend

> millions of bucks and years researching something they can't

patent -

> but there are a few private institutions conducting research. One

of

> them is the Medicinal and Aromatic Plant and Drug Research Center in

> Eskisehir, Turkey. The director is a world renowned scientist and

> friend of mine, Dr. Professor K. Husnu Can Baser. Professor Baser

is

> also Dean of the Pharmacy Faculty of Anadolu University. To print

his

> distinguished resume would take enough space on your hard drive for

> you

> to get upset with me - if this long explanation has not already done

> that ... ;-) He is a scientist so he's not affected by the holistic

> beliefs of aromatherapy - or the marketing hype of EO sellers. I

use

> a

> lot of his research and he has some amazing stuff. I presented

some

> of

> it in my lecture in Toronto last September and will present new

data

> in

> a lecture in Milan in March 2001.

>

> Back to the point I left a while ago .. ;-)

>

> Good means it will serve the purpose for which it's intended to be

> used.

>

> Mediocre means it might do the job but not as well as if it were

Good.

>

> Bad means you oughta run away from it - real fast. It's bad

because

> it

> is not going to serve the purpose for which anyone wants to use it.

In

> AT, it's bad because it's not Pure or it might be Pure but Mediocre.

>

> In the future, when you see this explained as it is now, remember

> where

> you first saw it ... these are words that I hereby copyright!

>

> A perfumer might want a 40/42 Lavender .. this is not a natural

> lavender

> that is unadulterated - it has been manipulated by man in a

laboratory

> and it is exactly what the customer wants - so it's a GOOD OIL!

>

> A spaghetti sauce maker might want an Oregano that is 80% + in

> carvacrol

> and he doesn't care a dang about the rest of the chemical

constituents

> in that oil - it's what he wants and it is a GOOD OIL.

>

> Neither of the above fellers wants less than he ordered - that

> perfumer

> doesn't want 39/40 Lavender and the spaghetti sauce maker doesn't

want

> 75% carvacrol - but if they can't get anything else and have to use

it

> then they probably will - and they would be a MEDIOCRE OILS.

>

> If the Lavender was 35/37 and the Organo was 70% they might decide

> those

> oils were BAD OILS.

>

> Along comes the Aromatherapist ... who generally knows a helluva lot

> less about what s/he is doing than the above two fellers but thinks

> s/he

> has all the answers because they read a couple of novels on AT. The

> rookie will want an oil that smells good regardless of the range of

> chemical constituents and the knowledgeable one will want an oil

that

> smells as it should and that has a range of chemical components that

> fits within that fairly narrow range/footprint/profile determined

to

> be

> acceptable and expected for oils produced from aromatic plants in

the

> area of origin. The rookie might not be able to tell the difference

> twixt the Good, Mediocre and Bad ... the knowledgeable one will

likely

> be able to tell the difference twixt the Good and the Bad but

probably

> will not be able to identify the Mediocre oil.

>

> What is Pure in Aromatherapy? Well - it's what we want to call an

EO

> that's straight from the still, unadulterated, and extracted from a

> single plant species. But - you gotta be careful and read the fine

> print all the time.

>

> Is Rose Otto at a 10% dilution in jojoba pure? Depends on how you

> look

> at it. If the Rose Otto is pure and the joboba is pure ... well ...

>

> Is a bottle of Italian Olive Oil that says " Pure Olive Oil " on the

> front

> label - but " " 10% Olive Oil in Other Vegetable Oils " on the back

> label a

> pure oil? Legally it is ... caveat emptor!

>

> But we don't allow such crap in AT - when folks don't make it

> perfectly

> clear what is in the bottle, we talk about them and call them dirty

> names and try to make folks aware that they are untrustworthy!

>

> Are all Pure EOs good for Aromatherapy? NO! NO! There are many

pure

> oils that are mediocre oils. Quality and Purity are too different

> animals and those that try to tell you otherwise are worried about

one

> or the other of these classifications not being present in their

oils.

>

> I reject MANY pure, mediocre oils every month. Examples lately

> are: a

> nice Myrtus communis (Myrtle); the myrtenol and myrtenyl acetate

was

> too

> low, Thymus serpyllum (Wild/Creeping/Mother of Thyme), gamma-

terpinene

> was too high, Juniperus communis (Juniper Berry) as the alpha-

pinene

> was

> too high and Carum carvi (Caraway Seed) as dihydrocarvones and

> carveols

> were too low. They were all Pure oils - but they were Mediocre

oils

> as

> the chemical constituents were out of range of the expected norm -

and

> maybe out of range of that area folks like to call therapeutic. But

> someone will sell these oils somewhere - they won't be dumped out

onto

> the ground. We hope they will make their way into the Commerical

> market

> instead of the AT market - but who knows?

>

> Like Graham said ... there's no Grades A, B or C - even in Olive Oil

> there's no such thing but folks try to call then that sometimes. I

> have

> told you the Kinds and Grades of essential oils. What you oughta be

> looking for is a tested oil ... it is NOT a perfect system - GCs are

> sorta like EKGs and Polygraph Tests, but it's a helluva lot better

> than

> not testing.

>

> Y'all keep smilin'....... Butch

>

>

> > > We are speaking here of 100 PURE GRADE A Essential Oils.

> > > There is a difference in oils. Many Essential Oils sold in the

> U.S.

> > > are synthetic oils or adulterated oils. In other words they

have

> > been

> > > cut with chemicals, therefore they are not 100% Pure Grade A

Oils.

> > > The FDA allows companies who sell products to label their

product

> as

> > Natural

> > > even if only 10% of the Main ingredient is present. Just

because

> a

> > product

> > > says 100% Natural doesn't mean that product is safe to use on

the

> > skin.

> > > Some of these oils are sold even in Health Food Stores. Be

sure

> the

> > > Essential Oils you're using are 100% Pure Grade A Therapeutic

> Oils.

> >

> > Hi GIGI.

> >

> > There is no such thing as " grade A oils " except in some companies

> > marketing hype.

> >

> > There is no " standard " that grades oils as " A " " B " " C " etc. All

> > Marketing hype. Actually I am more concerned that those companies

> who

> > spout such marketing hype as obviously they do not know much

about

> the

> > world EO market at all and therefore are pretty much suspect in

> their

> > motives. Graham