Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 he only has a few bottles left of each and i know that some of you may want some! let me know ASAP today!!!! as stated lower in the message " ...BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a note after using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe the producer feedback.... " *smile* chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CO2 5 ml .... Melissa ...............................$ 33.00 5 ml .... Rosa de Recht/Rosa damascena ..........$ 38.00 5 ml .... Princess of Nassau Musk Rose. .........$ 38.00 Recently, I was doing some consulting for a British ex-pat who has a farm in Zambia. This feller has been using a process to extract oils similar to that used by Dr. Peter Wilde, except Peter Wilde calls his products " Phytol, " which is sorta confusing as it has more than one meaning. The oils in the aromatic plant or flower are obtained by extraction with tetrafluroethane. This is a room temperature, elevated pressure extraction - no high temperatures. The temperature drops when you evaporate the solvent (which is a gas at room temp) from the oil. This gas is approved in the USA and Europe for use in foods so the advantages are (1) It's safer than Absolutes as there is no solvent used thus no solvent residue and (2) You can extract oils from almost anything as long as it has an aroma component with a chemical structure consisting of carbon chains from C1 - C8, - and from many plants and flowers from which distilling with steam/hydrosteam gets you nothing. It's similar to Supercritical Extractions (SCE) - low temperatures and relatively inert chemicals are involved (CO2); which is very efficient and virtually all extracted material can be isolated. Is it an essential oil? Not not in my book, but then, neither is an Absolute. Does it have therapeutic value? Nobody knows! We can guess that it has emotional and psychological value - as does the smell of a cup of coffee, but as for physiological value, we just don't know. So what's the advantage? Gaining olfactory pleasure from plants that can't be steam/hydrosteam distilled - and in perfumes, cosmetics or soaps. Anyway, I've got 250 grams each of Melissa; a Hybrid Rose that's a cross between a Rosa de Recht and Damask Rose on a Rosa Indico root stock; and a Princess of Nassau Musk Rose.. I offered to do a marketing survey for the Zambians by passing along 5 ml bottles of these oils for close to cost. The intent is to obtain feedback from users. I will not be selling this product in the future because I'm not dealing other than steam or hydro-steam essential oils and cold-pressed oils now. I have 45 bottles each of these oils and I'll offer them to the first 45 folks who ask - BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a note after using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe the producer feedback. I'll tell you that a large European essential oil dealer is selling this Melissa at a considerable price .. I know this because the producer sold them a kilo. I won't say who it is. The oils will be shipped from my US company, Priority Mail (at buyer's expense) will be used to send the oils ... First come will be first served and these will not be on my website - requests for purchase must come to me via e-mail .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 chris, i guess by the urgency of this it would need to be ordered, asap. my buget is tight although, i would really like these . . . and what a deal. so, the charge card get used (and then put away!) put me down for melissa and rosa damascena. are you getting any of these? would you possibly be interested in spliting a bottle? / andrea > ---------- > Ziggy > Reply the_oil_co-op > Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:52 AM > the_oil_co-op > [the_oil_co-op] !!! EVERYONE HAD TO COME OFF DIGEST FOR THIS > MESSAGE!!! > > he only has a few bottles left of each and i know that some of you > may want some! let me know ASAP today!!!! > as stated lower in the message " ...BUT, this is with a proviso that > you'll send me a note after using them which gives your honest > opinion of the oil - I owe the producer feedback.... " > *smile* > chris > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > CO2 > > 5 ml .... Melissa ...............................$ 33.00 > 5 ml .... Rosa de Recht/Rosa damascena ..........$ 38.00 > 5 ml .... Princess of Nassau Musk Rose. .........$ 38.00 > > Recently, I was doing some consulting for a British ex-pat who has a > farm in Zambia. This feller has been using a process to extract oils > similar to that used by Dr. Peter Wilde, except Peter Wilde calls his > products " Phytol, " which is sorta confusing as it has more than one > meaning. The oils in the aromatic plant or flower are obtained by > extraction with tetrafluroethane. This is a room temperature, > elevated > pressure extraction - no high temperatures. The temperature drops > when > you evaporate the solvent (which is a gas at room temp) from the > oil. > > This gas is approved in the USA and Europe for use in foods so the > advantages are (1) It's safer than Absolutes as there is no solvent > used thus no solvent residue and (2) You can extract oils from almost > anything as long as it has an aroma component with a chemical > structure > consisting of carbon chains from C1 - C8, - and from many plants and > flowers from which distilling with steam/hydrosteam gets you nothing. > > It's similar to Supercritical Extractions (SCE) - low temperatures and > relatively inert chemicals are involved (CO2); which is very efficient > and virtually all extracted material can be isolated. > > Is it an essential oil? Not not in my book, but then, neither is an > Absolute. Does it have therapeutic value? Nobody knows! We can > guess > that it has emotional and psychological value - as does the smell of a > cup of coffee, but as for physiological value, we just don't know. So > what's the advantage? Gaining olfactory pleasure from plants that > can't > be steam/hydrosteam distilled - and in perfumes, cosmetics or soaps. > > Anyway, I've got 250 grams each of Melissa; a Hybrid Rose that's a > cross > between a Rosa de Recht and Damask Rose on a Rosa Indico root stock; > and > a Princess of Nassau Musk Rose.. > > I offered to do a marketing survey for the Zambians by passing along 5 > ml bottles of these oils for close to cost. The intent is to obtain > feedback from users. I will not be selling this product in the future > because I'm not dealing other than steam or hydro-steam essential oils > and cold-pressed oils now. > > I have 45 bottles each of these oils and I'll offer them to the first > 45 > folks who ask - BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a note > after using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe > the > producer feedback. I'll tell you that a large European essential oil > dealer is selling this Melissa at a considerable price .. I know this > because the producer sold them a kilo. I won't say who it is. > > > The oils will be shipped from my US company, Priority Mail (at > buyer's expense) will be > used to send the oils ... > > First come will be first served and these will not be on my website - > requests for purchase must come to me via e-mail .......... > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 i have to get the order to him asap today because he only has like 15 bottles of each left (or less). he has agreed to give me 30 day terms YAY!!!! so i can get the co2's for anyone and hold them until the end of sept (so it would be for the oct. buy) and then everyone can pay me when i have to pay him. we just HAVE to give him written feedback on them. personally i want all 3 of them, in ounces *lol* but i think i may have to get them each in a full 5ml bottle and cherish them forever! *smile* chris p.s. and everyone will be put back to their mail preferance after this issue is covered. the_oil_co-op , " Sperle, Andrea " <andrea_sperle@m...> wrote: > chris, i guess by the urgency of this it would > need to be ordered, asap. my buget is tight > although, i would really like these . . . and what a deal. > so, the charge card get used (and then put away!) > > put me down for melissa and rosa damascena. > are you getting any of these? would you possibly be interested > in spliting a bottle? > > / andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Ok help a dunce LOL how much is 5 ml? I know i know i should know this but these kids are sucking the smarts outta me! ANd curious about this last one " Princess of Nassau Musk Rose " . THanks HUGS Sarah > [Original Message] > Ziggy <cl-chrisziggy > <the_oil_co-op > > 8/22/2000 11:52:12 AM > [the_oil_co-op] !!! EVERYONE HAD TO COME OFF DIGEST FOR THIS MESSAGE!!! > > he only has a few bottles left of each and i know that some of you > may want some! let me know ASAP today!!!! > as stated lower in the message " ...BUT, this is with a proviso that > you'll send me a note after using them which gives your honest > opinion of the oil - I owe the producer feedback.... " > *smile* > chris > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > CO2 > > 5 ml .... Melissa ...............................$ 33.00 > 5 ml .... Rosa de Recht/Rosa damascena ..........$ 38.00 > 5 ml .... Princess of Nassau Musk Rose. .........$ 38.00 > > Recently, I was doing some consulting for a British ex-pat who has > a > farm in Zambia. This feller has been using a process to extract > oils > similar to that used by Dr. Peter Wilde, except Peter Wilde calls > his > products " Phytol, " which is sorta confusing as it has more than one > meaning. The oils in the aromatic plant or flower are obtained by > extraction with tetrafluroethane. This is a room temperature, > elevated > pressure extraction - no high temperatures. The temperature drops > when > you evaporate the solvent (which is a gas at room temp) from the > oil. > > This gas is approved in the USA and Europe for use in foods so the > advantages are (1) It's safer than Absolutes as there is no solvent > used thus no solvent residue and (2) You can extract oils from > almost > anything as long as it has an aroma component with a chemical > structure > consisting of carbon chains from C1 - C8, - and from many plants and > flowers from which distilling with steam/hydrosteam gets you > nothing. > > It's similar to Supercritical Extractions (SCE) - low temperatures > and > relatively inert chemicals are involved (CO2); which is very > efficient > and virtually all extracted material can be isolated. > > Is it an essential oil? Not not in my book, but then, neither is an > Absolute. Does it have therapeutic value? Nobody knows! We can > guess > that it has emotional and psychological value - as does the smell of > a > cup of coffee, but as for physiological value, we just don't know. > So > what's the advantage? Gaining olfactory pleasure from plants that > can't > be steam/hydrosteam distilled - and in perfumes, cosmetics or soaps. > > Anyway, I've got 250 grams each of Melissa; a Hybrid Rose that's a > cross > between a Rosa de Recht and Damask Rose on a Rosa Indico root stock; > > and > a Princess of Nassau Musk Rose.. > > I offered to do a marketing survey for the Zambians by passing along > 5 > ml bottles of these oils for close to cost. The intent is to obtain > feedback from users. I will not be selling this product in the > future > because I'm not dealing other than steam or hydro-steam essential > oils > and cold-pressed oils now. > > I have 45 bottles each of these oils and I'll offer them to the > first > 45 > folks who ask - BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a > note > after using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe > the > producer feedback. I'll tell you that a large European essential > oil > dealer is selling this Melissa at a considerable price .. I know > this > because the producer sold them a kilo. I won't say who it is. > > > The oils will be shipped from my US company, Priority Mail (at > buyer's expense) will be > used to send the oils ... > > First come will be first served and these will not be on my website > - > requests for purchase must come to me via e-mail .......... > > > > > > --- Sarah Ihle --- ihle --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Chris, None of these are on my "got to have" list, so I'll pass. P.S. I passed my first test! Woohoo! The rosemary seems to be working, even though it's just the stuff from my kitchen. I can only image what the oil and the other would do! Kate - Ziggy the_oil_co-op Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:52 AM [the_oil_co-op] !!! EVERYONE HAD TO COME OFF DIGEST FOR THIS MESSAGE!!! he only has a few bottles left of each and i know that some of you may want some! let me know ASAP today!!!!as stated lower in the message "...BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a note after using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe the producer feedback...." *smile*chris~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~CO25 ml .... Melissa ...............................$ 33.005 ml .... Rosa de Recht/Rosa damascena ..........$ 38.00 5 ml .... Princess of Nassau Musk Rose. .........$ 38.00Recently, I was doing some consulting for a British ex-pat who has afarm in Zambia. This feller has been using a process to extract oilssimilar to that used by Dr. Peter Wilde, except Peter Wilde calls hisproducts "Phytol," which is sorta confusing as it has more than onemeaning. The oils in the aromatic plant or flower are obtained byextraction with tetrafluroethane. This is a room temperature, elevatedpressure extraction - no high temperatures. The temperature drops whenyou evaporate the solvent (which is a gas at room temp) from the oil. This gas is approved in the USA and Europe for use in foods so theadvantages are (1) It's safer than Absolutes as there is no solventused thus no solvent residue and (2) You can extract oils from almostanything as long as it has an aroma component with a chemical structureconsisting of carbon chains from C1 - C8, - and from many plants andflowers from which distilling with steam/hydrosteam gets you nothing.It's similar to Supercritical Extractions (SCE) - low temperatures andrelatively inert chemicals are involved (CO2); which is very efficientand virtually all extracted material can be isolated. Is it an essential oil? Not not in my book, but then, neither is anAbsolute. Does it have therapeutic value? Nobody knows! We can guessthat it has emotional and psychological value - as does the smell of acup of coffee, but as for physiological value, we just don't know. Sowhat's the advantage? Gaining olfactory pleasure from plants that can'tbe steam/hydrosteam distilled - and in perfumes, cosmetics or soaps.Anyway, I've got 250 grams each of Melissa; a Hybrid Rose that's a crossbetween a Rosa de Recht and Damask Rose on a Rosa Indico root stock; anda Princess of Nassau Musk Rose.. I offered to do a marketing survey for the Zambians by passing along 5ml bottles of these oils for close to cost. The intent is to obtainfeedback from users. I will not be selling this product in the futurebecause I'm not dealing other than steam or hydro-steam essential oilsand cold-pressed oils now.I have 45 bottles each of these oils and I'll offer them to the first 45folks who ask - BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a noteafter using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe theproducer feedback. I'll tell you that a large European essential oildealer is selling this Melissa at a considerable price .. I know thisbecause the producer sold them a kilo. I won't say who it is.The oils will be shipped from my US company, Priority Mail (at buyer's expense) will beused to send the oils ...First come will be first served and these will not be on my website -requests for purchase must come to me via e-mail .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 Sorry Chris, But I can't buy anything just before my trip (I just bought a cargo carrier for the top of the 'burban) Smiles! Michele ---------- > " Ziggy " <cl-chrisziggy >the_oil_co-op >[the_oil_co-op] !!! EVERYONE HAD TO COME OFF DIGEST FOR THIS MESSAGE!!! >Tue, Aug 22, 2000, 8:52 > >he only has a few bottles left of each and i know that some of you >may want some! let me know ASAP today!!!! >as stated lower in the message " ...BUT, this is with a proviso that >you'll send me a note after using them which gives your honest >opinion of the oil - I owe the producer feedback.... " >*smile* >chris >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >CO2 > >5 ml .... Melissa ...............................$ 33.00 >5 ml .... Rosa de Recht/Rosa damascena ..........$ 38.00 >5 ml .... Princess of Nassau Musk Rose. .........$ 38.00 > >Recently, I was doing some consulting for a British ex-pat who has a >farm in Zambia. This feller has been using a process to extract oils >similar to that used by Dr. Peter Wilde, except Peter Wilde calls his >products " Phytol, " which is sorta confusing as it has more than one >meaning. The oils in the aromatic plant or flower are obtained by >extraction with tetrafluroethane. This is a room temperature, >elevated >pressure extraction - no high temperatures. The temperature drops >when >you evaporate the solvent (which is a gas at room temp) from the >oil. > >This gas is approved in the USA and Europe for use in foods so the >advantages are (1) It's safer than Absolutes as there is no solvent >used thus no solvent residue and (2) You can extract oils from almost >anything as long as it has an aroma component with a chemical >structure >consisting of carbon chains from C1 - C8, - and from many plants and >flowers from which distilling with steam/hydrosteam gets you nothing. > >It's similar to Supercritical Extractions (SCE) - low temperatures and >relatively inert chemicals are involved (CO2); which is very efficient >and virtually all extracted material can be isolated. > >Is it an essential oil? Not not in my book, but then, neither is an >Absolute. Does it have therapeutic value? Nobody knows! We can >guess >that it has emotional and psychological value - as does the smell of a >cup of coffee, but as for physiological value, we just don't know. So >what's the advantage? Gaining olfactory pleasure from plants that >can't >be steam/hydrosteam distilled - and in perfumes, cosmetics or soaps. > >Anyway, I've got 250 grams each of Melissa; a Hybrid Rose that's a >cross >between a Rosa de Recht and Damask Rose on a Rosa Indico root stock; >and >a Princess of Nassau Musk Rose.. > >I offered to do a marketing survey for the Zambians by passing along 5 >ml bottles of these oils for close to cost. The intent is to obtain >feedback from users. I will not be selling this product in the future >because I'm not dealing other than steam or hydro-steam essential oils >and cold-pressed oils now. > >I have 45 bottles each of these oils and I'll offer them to the first >45 >folks who ask - BUT, this is with a proviso that you'll send me a note >after using them which gives your honest opinion of the oil - I owe >the >producer feedback. I'll tell you that a large European essential oil >dealer is selling this Melissa at a considerable price .. I know this >because the producer sold them a kilo. I won't say who it is. > > >The oils will be shipped from my US company, Priority Mail (at >buyer's expense) will be >used to send the oils ... > >First come will be first served and these will not be on my website - >requests for purchase must come to me via e-mail .......... > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 I'll take a Melissa and Rosa de Recht if still available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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