Depression DOB 6 - 21 - 54 (the other one)

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Hi Everybody!

 

Some confusion, sorry, there are two patients with depression. This one is

responding very well to my treatments. The following is the original post:

 

Today's patient is a 49 year old female suffering from depression. She has

a history of alcohol abuse but is not currently drinking, joined AA 18

years ago and has been sober since then. She had a hysterectomy at age 41

and malignant melanoma removed at about the same time. She separated her

shoulder at age 47, this healed normally. She is currently taking Celexa

but she would like to use TCM to control her depression instead. She was

hospitalized for suicidal thoughts in 1997.

 

The following is my report, your comments are invited.

 

Patient number: 219041810

 

Observe:

 

Small movement, continuous fidgeting especially of the legs. Yes.

(deficient heat in the kidneys)

Dry lifeless color indicates exhausted Stomach-Qi)

Green face color (indicates a Liver pattern, interior Cold, pain or

interior Wind) Yes.

Broad, square shoulders, slow and deliberate, strong build, triangular

face, " Metal Type " . Yes.

Fat body. Yes

crack at the front of the earlobe is heart.

Observe the lips. Dry.

Tongue color. Pink.

Tongue shape. Wide.

Tongue coating. Slight white.

Tongue moisture. Dry.

 

Inquire:

 

Gradual onset of headache. Yes.

Character of the headache pain: Dull.

Condition of the patient while having the headache. Annoyed.

Pain that is relieved by touch or pressure. Yes. (deficient)

Incomplete urination, dribbling or lack of force. Yes.

Undigested food in the stool. Yes. Especially corn.

Purple or blackish menstrual blood. Sometimes.

Congealed menses with clots. Yes.

Taking contraceptive pills. Yes. For two years age 19 and 20.

White leucorrhea. Yes. Years ago.

Change in sinews, such as weak or stiff. Yes.

Throws off the blanket at night. Yes. (excess heat maybe liver or heart)

 

Listen & smell:

 

Frequent laughter without reason. Yes. (fire imbalance)

Crying. Yes. (related to metal, lung deficiency)

 

Palpate:

 

Systolic blood pressure (Optimal <120; 98

Diastolic blood pressure (Optimal <80; 72

Heart rate. 65

Slow pulse less than 70 beats per minute. Yes. (cold or insufficient qi)

Hidden pulse is an extreme form of the sinking pulse. Yes. (Deficient Yang

if weak)

Dry skin. Yes. (deficiency of liver blood)

 

Summary of patterns:

 

deficient heat in the kidneys

exhausted Stomach-Qi

Liver pattern, interior Cold, pain or interior Wind

Metal Type

Fat body. Central Obesity.

crack at the front of the earlobe is heart.

deficient

excess heat maybe liver or heart

fire imbalance

related to metal, lung deficiency

cold or insufficient qi

Deficient Yang if weak

deficiency of liver blood

 

Organs/Meridians: Kidney, Stomach, Liver, Heart, Lung.

 

 

Treatment principles/points:

Consolidate Kidney, Reinforce Qi. Du 4; Ki 3, 12; Ren 3, 4, 6; Sp 6; UB

22, 23, 28, 39.

Strengthen Stomach Qi, Invigorate Spleen. Ren 6, 12; Sp 6; St 21, 36; UB

20, 21.

Nourish Blood, Subdue Wind. Du 14, 16, 20, 26; Lv 3, 8; Ren 4; Sp 6; St 36;

UB 17, 18, 20.

Reinforce and strengthen Heart Qi. Ht 7, P 6; Ren 6, 14, 17; St 36; UB 15.

Reinforce Lungs, Strengthen Qi, Restore the descending function of Lung Qi.

Lu 7, 9; Ren 6, 17; St 36; UB 13,43.

 

Regards,

 

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

sorry Pete,

 

I have lost the thread and the plot . with regards to your patients and I

can't bear the thought of reading back through all the e mails

 

 

I am unsure as to what sort of input I can offer you, I get a sense perhaps

wrongly that you are already quite clear and knowledgeable on how to treat

your patients. If you do get stuck with any of them and wish for my input

i'll be happy to share but we would have to start from the ground up.

Salvador

 

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Hi Salvador!

 

I am interested in understanding your date of birth system, as compared and

contrasted to the way I was taught to differentiate and treat (a good

amount of trial and error in it, I admit). We can follow the next case with

each other which will serve as well as the past ones for this purpose.

 

I am unsure of the meaning of the " Magicos " output, and how to read it. For

example, my own date of birth is 1 - 27 - 45. If I plug that into " Magicos "

I get Personalidade 2 Controle 9 and Tendencia 7. Then the star has Fogo 9;

Terra 2, 5, 8; Metal 6, 7; Agua 1; and Madeira 3, 4. Then there is

" Transitos do anno 2004 with an OK button. If I click the OK I get a

calender with a 2 under 2004 and these numbers under the months: Jan 4, Fev

5, Mar 6, Abr 7, Mai 8, Jun 9, Jul 1, Ago 2, Set 3, Out 4, Nov 5 and Dez 6.

I wonder what this all means?

 

Right now it is taking me five or six treatments to zero in on what *works*

for a patient, mostly because each patient has five or six patterns going

on at once.

 

At 03:14 PM 3/6/2004, you wrote:

>sorry Pete,

>

>I have lost the thread and the plot . with regards to your patients and I

>can't bear the thought of reading back through all the e mails

>

>

>I am unsure as to what sort of input I can offer you, I get a sense perhaps

>wrongly that you are already quite clear and knowledgeable on how to treat

>your patients. If you do get stuck with any of them and wish for my input

>i'll be happy to share but we would have to start from the ground up.

>Salvador

>

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