Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Hello every body, I need a little of help. I have a patient with hypothyroidism from 10 yaers ago, is a woman of 50 years old, with 20 pounds of over weight. She is under hormonal suply, but wants to test acupuncture treatement. I have found a lot of sugestion for hyperthyroidism, but not for hypo. Can anny body give some lights? Thanks, Fdo. Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 What I have found in every hypothyroid patient I have treated is that each has a Kidney yang vacuity as well as a Heart Qi or Blood Deficiency (usually they have irregular heart rates/rhythms). Usually the two go hand in hand to produce a thyroid issue. Treatments, of course, would be to supplement Kidney yang and strengthen Heart. Can you give some background as to symptoms, pulse, tongue, etc. so that we can figure out herbal recommendations. Ross Chinese Medicine , " Jose Correa D. " <fdojose> wrote: > Hello every body, I need a little of help. > > I have a patient with hypothyroidism from 10 yaers > ago, is a woman of 50 years old, with 20 pounds of > over weight. > She is under hormonal suply, but wants to test > acupuncture treatement. > > I have found a lot of sugestion for hyperthyroidism, > but not for hypo. > > Can anny body give some lights? > > Thanks, > Fdo. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Ross wrote: What I have found in every hypothyroid patient I have treated is that each has a Kidney yang vacuity as well as a Heart Qi or Blood Deficiency (usually they have irregular heart rates/rhythms). Usually the two go hand in hand to produce a thyroid issue. Treatments, of course, would be to supplement Kidney yang and strengthen Heart. Can you give some background as to symptoms, pulse, tongue, etc. so that we can figure out herbal recommendations. > > wise words. the extra mile, what caused the K ya vac? 5 possible answers - 1. an imbalanced Water 2. Metal Mother does not nourish 3. Earth SP attacks 4. Fire HT counterattacks 5. Wood LV seeps backwards. Fdo, let's have the input. Ross, let have more. BTW by now we should be calling the condition a TCM name. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health professionals - " rossrosen " <rossrosen <Chinese Medicine > Friday, March 05, 2004 10:44 AM Re: Treatment for hypothyroidism... Chinese Medicine , " Jose Correa D. " <fdojose> wrote: > Hello every body, I need a little of help. > > I have a patient with hypothyroidism from 10 yaers > ago, is a woman of 50 years old, with 20 pounds of > over weight. > She is under hormonal suply, but wants to test > acupuncture treatement. > > I have found a lot of sugestion for hyperthyroidism, > but not for hypo. > > Can anny body give some lights? > > Thanks, > Fdo. > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups' homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click 'edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 I do what's called a " KD/HT line " tx when I find HT/KD vacuity, esp. when accompanied by weak Ht/Kd pulses. The Tx is only done the first 2-4 txs. , in order to build up the KDs. It is: BL 23, Du4, BL52, and Du11, BL15, and BL44. These pts make a " line " in the KD and HT areas on the back. It works for me. John G. --- rossrosen <rossrosen wrote: > What I have found in every hypothyroid patient I > have treated is > that each has a Kidney yang vacuity as well as a > Heart Qi or Blood > Deficiency (usually they have irregular heart > rates/rhythms). > Usually the two go hand in hand to produce a thyroid > issue. > Treatments, of course, would be to supplement Kidney > yang and > strengthen Heart. Can you give some background as > to symptoms, > pulse, tongue, etc. so that we can figure out herbal > recommendations. > > Ross > > Chinese Medicine , > " Jose Correa > D. " <fdojose> wrote: > > Hello every body, I need a little of help. > > > > I have a patient with hypothyroidism from 10 yaers > > ago, is a woman of 50 years old, with 20 pounds of > > over weight. > > She is under hormonal suply, but wants to test > > acupuncture treatement. > > > > I have found a lot of sugestion for > hyperthyroidism, > > but not for hypo. > > > > Can anny body give some lights? > > > > Thanks, > > Fdo. > > > > Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 The causes can be multifaceted. If we are looking at a young person, most likely the Kidney vacuity is constitutional. If it's taking place in an elderly person, we are looking at someone who has depleted themselves with lifestyle (pushing oneself past capabilities, excessive sexual activity/ejaculations, multiple pregnancies, trauma with pregnancies, menstrual disorders, breast- feeding numerous children back to back, poor nutritional status, etc). We all see many cases of Kidney deficiency, but why do some wind up with a thyroid imbalance? The part that I find determinative of the thyroid condition (in my limited experience) is some Heart issue leading to a HT/KI imbalance. (I would love to know if others can corroborate this.) In many instances we see a temporary hyperthyroid prior to the burnout. Here someone usually has some Heart yin deficiency. Obviously, a weakened Kidney can over time lead to problems in the Heart system. My guess is that these people have pre-existing Heart pathology, i.e., shock, trauma, circulatory issues, birth trauma, excessive aerobic exercise, etc. Chinese Medicine , " dr. k " <aryaone@e...> wrote: > Ross wrote: > What I have found in every hypothyroid patient I have treated is > that each has a Kidney yang vacuity as well as a Heart Qi or Blood > Deficiency (usually they have irregular heart rates/rhythms). > Usually the two go hand in hand to produce a thyroid issue. > Treatments, of course, would be to supplement Kidney yang and > strengthen Heart. Can you give some background as to symptoms, > pulse, tongue, etc. so that we can figure out herbal recommendations. > > > > > wise words. > > the extra mile, what caused the K ya vac? > > 5 possible answers - > 1. an imbalanced Water > 2. Metal Mother does not nourish > 3. Earth SP attacks > 4. Fire HT counterattacks > 5. Wood LV seeps backwards. > > Fdo, let's have the input. > Ross, let have more. > > BTW by now we should be calling the condition a TCM name. > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health > professionals > - > " rossrosen " <rossrosen> > <Chinese Medicine > > Friday, March 05, 2004 10:44 AM > Re: Treatment for hypothyroidism... > > > > Chinese Medicine , " Jose Correa > D. " <fdojose> wrote: > > Hello every body, I need a little of help. > > > > I have a patient with hypothyroidism from 10 yaers > > ago, is a woman of 50 years old, with 20 pounds of > > over weight. > > She is under hormonal suply, but wants to test > > acupuncture treatement. > > > > I have found a lot of sugestion for hyperthyroidism, > > but not for hypo. > > > > Can anny body give some lights? > > > > Thanks, > > Fdo. > > > > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, > spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, > visit the groups' homepage: > Chinese Medicine/ click 'edit my > membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. > > To send an email to > <Chinese Medicine- > from the email > account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still > recieve messages for a few days. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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