Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an Ancient Chinese

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Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

 

TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

Ancient Chinese

Medical Text

AU: Unschuld P.U.

JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

PD: 1 February 2004

VO: 10

NO: 1

PG: 191-196(6)

PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

IS: 1075-5535

URL:

http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

 

Attilio

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Hi Attilio,

 

The link did not work for me.

 

Emmanuel Segmen

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Chinese Medicine

Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:51 AM

Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

Ancient Chinese

 

 

Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

 

TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

Ancient Chinese

Medical Text

AU: Unschuld P.U.

JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

PD: 1 February 2004

VO: 10

NO: 1

PG: 191-196(6)

PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

IS: 1075-5535

URL:

http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

 

Attilio

 

 

 

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Hi Emmanuel!

 

Blame word wrap for that. Get what you can of the link into your browser,

you will get the " not found " error. Then copy/paste the rest of the link

onto the end of the part that is already there (you have to put the cursor

at the end of what's there first) then click go or press enter.

 

At 06:04 PM 3/3/2004, you wrote:

>Hi Attilio,

>

>The link did not work for me.

>

>Emmanuel Segmen

> -

>

> Chinese Medicine

> Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:51 AM

> Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in

> an Ancient Chinese

>

>

> Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

>

> TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> Ancient Chinese

> Medical Text

> AU: Unschuld P.U.

> JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> PD: 1 February 2004

> VO: 10

> NO: 1

> PG: 191-196(6)

> PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> IS: 1075-5535

> URL:

> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

>

> Attilio

>

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server cut the link in half. Try this,

 

http://corrado.ingentaselect.com/vl=492328/cl=36/nw=1/rpsv/cgi-

bin/cgi?body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

 

Otherwise cut and paste both sections each line into your web

browser, creating one single web address.

 

Attilio

 

 

" Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote:

> Hi Attilio,

>

> The link did not work for me.

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

> -

>

> Chinese Medicine

> Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:51 AM

> Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge,

Imagery in an Ancient Chinese

>

>

> Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

>

> TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> Ancient Chinese

> Medical Text

> AU: Unschuld P.U.

> JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> PD: 1 February 2004

> VO: 10

> NO: 1

> PG: 191-196(6)

> PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> IS: 1075-5535

> URL:

> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

>

> Attilio

>

>

>

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Hi Attilio,

 

I did get to the site by pasting the two halves together. Then I got this:

 

The requested document is freely available only to registered users with

an online subscription to The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

 

Unfortunately, I don't have a subscription. I'll see if I can find the

paper by other means and report back to you. Yes, I'd love to read it. Thanks

for letting me know about it.

 

All the Best,

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

-

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:05 AM

Re: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

Ancient Chinese

 

 

server cut the link in half. Try this,

 

http://corrado.ingentaselect.com/vl=492328/cl=36/nw=1/rpsv/cgi-

bin/cgi?body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

 

Otherwise cut and paste both sections each line into your web

browser, creating one single web address.

 

Attilio

 

 

" Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote:

> Hi Attilio,

>

> The link did not work for me.

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

> -

>

> Chinese Medicine

> Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:51 AM

> Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge,

Imagery in an Ancient Chinese

>

>

> Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

>

> TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> Ancient Chinese

> Medical Text

> AU: Unschuld P.U.

> JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> PD: 1 February 2004

> VO: 10

> NO: 1

> PG: 191-196(6)

> PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> IS: 1075-5535

> URL:

> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

>

> Attilio

>

>

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Emmanuel, et. al.,

 

> I'll see if I can find the paper by other means

> and report back to you. Yes, I'd love to read it.

 

If memory serves, it is an edited version of the introductory materials in

Paul's new NeiJing text. If you have the book, you have the information.

 

Bob

 

Robert L. Felt bob

Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com

202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758

Taos, New Mexico 87571

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bob.

 

I do own Paul Unschuld's Suwen, so indeed I've read this material at least

once. I'm greatly impressed by it. It will take several more readings to

digest it and begin the process of making it useful.

 

Attilio, are there any pertinent parts you wish to reference? As if you had

time to tell me? ;-) Just make sure you get enough sleep, Bro, and eat

your vegies. You're getting your butt kicked, but you'll be glad of it in a

couple of years.

 

Respectfully,

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

> Emmanuel, et. al.,

>

> > I'll see if I can find the paper by other means

> > and report back to you. Yes, I'd love to read it.

>

> If memory serves, it is an edited version of the introductory materials in

> Paul's new NeiJing text. If you have the book, you have the information.

>

> Bob

>

> Robert L. Felt bob

> Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com

> 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758

> Taos, New Mexico 87571

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Emmanuel,

 

> I do own Paul Unschuld's Suwen, so indeed I've read this material at least

> once. I'm greatly impressed by it. It will take several more readings to

> digest it and begin the process of making it useful.

 

It is an amazing work. U.C. Press has agreed to do the rest of the volumes

and this will have a long term effect on the scholarship of the field. Paul

once called it the source of " 10,000 PhD. theses, " which I take as a reference

to the Suwen work as a foundation for the CM that follows.

 

Bob

 

Robert L. Felt bob

Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com

202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758

Taos, New Mexico 87571

[Guest guest]

I was merely bringing the paper to the group's attention. Unfortunately, i don't

have the resources to purchase the paper. I'll wait until I’m back in the UK

then visit the British library and get a copy from there.

 

 

 

Attilio

 

en wrote:

Thanks, Bob.

 

I do own Paul Unschuld's Suwen, so indeed I've read this material at least

once. I'm greatly impressed by it. It will take several more readings to

digest it and begin the process of making it useful.

 

Attilio, are there any pertinent parts you wish to reference? As if you had

time to tell me? ;-) Just make sure you get enough sleep, Bro, and eat

your vegies. You're getting your butt kicked, but you'll be glad of it in a

couple of years.

 

Respectfully,

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

> Emmanuel, et. al.,

>

> > I'll see if I can find the paper by other means

> > and report back to you. Yes, I'd love to read it.

>

> If memory serves, it is an edited version of the introductory materials in

> Paul's new NeiJing text. If you have the book, you have the information.

>

> Bob

>

> Robert L. Felt bob

> Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com

> 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758

> Taos, New Mexico 87571

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

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"

The page cannot be found

The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,

or is temporarily unavailable.

 

Attilio - maybe you left something off the end of the URL .. A search at

Ingenta did not come up with anything ?? Suggestions please as I'd like to

access the article.

 

Sammy.

 

 

[attiliodalberto]

03 March 2004 13:51

Chinese Medicine

Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in

an Ancient Chinese

 

 

Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

 

TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

Ancient Chinese

Medical Text

AU: Unschuld P.U.

JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

PD: 1 February 2004

VO: 10

NO: 1

PG: 191-196(6)

PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

IS: 1075-5535

URL:

http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

 

Attilio

 

 

 

 

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The link is in two halfs. Cut and paste the sections together and it

does work, although you'll have to pay for the article. Unless you

want to do a inter-library article loan, will be cheaper. Mdx is 10p

per cited papge, i think.

 

Attilio

 

<sammy_bates@b...> wrote:

> "

> The page cannot be found

> The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name

changed,

> or is temporarily unavailable.

>

> Attilio - maybe you left something off the end of the URL .. A

search at

> Ingenta did not come up with anything ?? Suggestions please as I'd

like to

> access the article.

>

> Sammy.

>

>

> [attiliodalberto]

> 03 March 2004 13:51

> Chinese Medicine

> Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge,

Imagery in

> an Ancient Chinese

>

>

> Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

>

> TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> Ancient Chinese

> Medical Text

> AU: Unschuld P.U.

> JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> PD: 1 February 2004

> VO: 10

> NO: 1

> PG: 191-196(6)

> PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> IS: 1075-5535

> URL:

> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

>

> Attilio

>

>

>

>

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Hi Atillio!

 

$37 for this article? It is more than I make some days, is it worth it? How

do you do the Mdx and how many pages are there?

 

At 08:34 AM 3/7/2004, you wrote:

>The link is in two halfs. Cut and paste the sections together and it

>does work, although you'll have to pay for the article. Unless you

>want to do a inter-library article loan, will be cheaper. Mdx is 10p

>per cited papge, i think.

>

>Attilio

>

><sammy_bates@b...> wrote:

> > "

> > The page cannot be found

> > The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name

>changed,

> > or is temporarily unavailable.

> >

> > Attilio - maybe you left something off the end of the URL .. A

>search at

> > Ingenta did not come up with anything ?? Suggestions please as I'd

>like to

> > access the article.

> >

> > Sammy.

> >

> >

> > [attiliodalberto]

> > 03 March 2004 13:51

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge,

>Imagery in

> > an Ancient Chinese

> >

> >

> > Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

> >

> > TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> > Ancient Chinese

> > Medical Text

> > AU: Unschuld P.U.

> > JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> > PD: 1 February 2004

> > VO: 10

> > NO: 1

> > PG: 191-196(6)

> > PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> > IS: 1075-5535

> > URL:

> > http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> > body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

> > <snip>

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Atti,

 

I did link the twoi half bits before and nothing. I aklso did a search at

the home page. I'll have another go. Did anyone else have success retrieving

this pap[er I wonder ??

 

Sammy.

 

 

 

[attiliodalberto]

07 March 2004 13:35

Chinese Medicine

Re: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery

in an Ancient Chinese

 

 

The link is in two halfs. Cut and paste the sections together and it

does work, although you'll have to pay for the article. Unless you

want to do a inter-library article loan, will be cheaper. Mdx is 10p

per cited papge, i think.

 

Attilio

 

<sammy_bates@b...> wrote:

> "

> The page cannot be found

> The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name

changed,

> or is temporarily unavailable.

>

> Attilio - maybe you left something off the end of the URL .. A

search at

> Ingenta did not come up with anything ?? Suggestions please as I'd

like to

> access the article.

>

> Sammy.

>

>

> [attiliodalberto]

> 03 March 2004 13:51

> Chinese Medicine

> Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge,

Imagery in

> an Ancient Chinese

>

>

> Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

>

> TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> Ancient Chinese

> Medical Text

> AU: Unschuld P.U.

> JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> PD: 1 February 2004

> VO: 10

> NO: 1

> PG: 191-196(6)

> PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> IS: 1075-5535

> URL:

> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

>

> Attilio

>

>

>

>

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Hi Sammy!

 

Once you get there you have to pay $37. I am holding off on it until I get

to read some reviews to see if it is worth it. I haven't time to read all

the free stuff so this had better be good.

 

At 04:27 AM 3/8/2004, you wrote:

 

>Atti,

>

>I did link the twoi half bits before and nothing. I aklso did a search at

>the home page. I'll have another go. Did anyone else have success retrieving

>this pap[er I wonder ??

>

>Sammy.

>

>

>

> [attiliodalberto]

>07 March 2004 13:35

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery

>in an Ancient Chinese

>

>

>The link is in two halfs. Cut and paste the sections together and it

>does work, although you'll have to pay for the article. Unless you

>want to do a inter-library article loan, will be cheaper. Mdx is 10p

>per cited papge, i think.

>

>Attilio

>

><sammy_bates@b...> wrote:

> > "

> > The page cannot be found

> > The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name

>changed,

> > or is temporarily unavailable.

> >

> > Attilio - maybe you left something off the end of the URL .. A

>search at

> > Ingenta did not come up with anything ?? Suggestions please as I'd

>like to

> > access the article.

> >

> > Sammy.

> >

> >

> > [attiliodalberto]

> > 03 March 2004 13:51

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge,

>Imagery in

> > an Ancient Chinese

> >

> >

> > Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

> >

> > TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> > Ancient Chinese

> > Medical Text

> > AU: Unschuld P.U.

> > JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> > PD: 1 February 2004

> > VO: 10

> > NO: 1

> > PG: 191-196(6)

> > PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> > IS: 1075-5535

> > URL:

> > http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> > body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

> >

> > Attilio

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear,

>religious,

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>the email

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>will still

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The article referred to originally in this discussion thread is actually a

book review of Unschuld's book, published in 2003. (His " latest " book is

actually another, titled " Was ist Medizin? " ( " What is medicine? " ),

available only in German, e.g. from AMAZON.DE.

 

The following URL get the table of contents (TOC) of the issue:

The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

Volume 10 Number 1 February 2004

 

http://lysander.ingentaselect.com/vl=2733865/cl=39/nw=1/rpsv/cw/mal/10755535

/v10n1/contp1-1.htm

 

(This, like the URL below, gets broken into two lines by email formatting.

To reconstruct the single-line URL to paste into a browser address window:

copy the two-line URL into some kind of text/word editor; position the

cursor at the end of the 1st line and then hit the DELETE (character) key,

OR position the cursor at the beginning of the 2nd line and hit the

BACKSPACE key; then highlight and copy the resulting whole single line, and

paste into browser)

 

In the Table of Contents page, down under the heading " Book Review " appears

the reference to the Unschuld SuWen book. The link " VIEW " there goes to the

page (originally noted in this thread), which offers to sell a reprint of

the review for $37:

 

http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(2

0040201)10:1L.191;1-

 

This page is called

" Document Request "

 

If you want to read a review without paying $37, here's my summary of it:

 

The book is introductory volume to a set of 8 or more volumes, to include

complete translation, with commentaries and an elaborate concordance (not

only of single Chinese characters, but of phrases also). This, 1st volume

is mostly historical overview in nature.

 

Chapter I: Bibliographic History -- when does the title (HuangDi NeiJing

SuWen) first appear in history -- various scholarly opinions about the

early appearances of the book's title and evidence as to what we really

know about what that book may have been, and whether it's the same as what

we know today as the SuWen (scholarly consensus: probably not much).

 

Chapter II: The meaning of the word in the title -- notably, " Nei " (in

NeiJing) has been interpreted as " Internal " i.e. the inside of the body,

only since the Qing dynasty. From the Han up to then it appears to have

meant something like the innermost or most essential teachings.

 

Chapter III: Early texts and commentaries before 11th century -- survey of

documented references, texts and editions prior to the edition of about

1057 CE/AD, which is the earliest one of which we have a surviving copy

( " textus receptus " ), i.e. what we know about this book prior to that is

hearsay in other historical documents.

 

Chapter IV: Origin and tradition of the Textus Receptus of SuWen -- how the

1057 edition came about, and later editions, revisions, commentaries.

 

Chapter V: Survey of the Contents of the SuWen -- This is a major part of

the book (243 pages of the total 520 pages); survey from a historians

perspective. Unschuld is NOT a practitioner and has little interest in the

medical practice. For CM doctors his perspective is often frustrating due

to this. For instance, he believes the authors considered the Zang and Fu

to be morphological (anatomical) organs, not things like Porkert's " orbs of

functionality " . (Unschuld and Manfred Porkert are often highly critical of

each other's ideas.) Also, he often mentions that aspects of the medical

theory " have no basis in fact " or " no evidence " , and are purely theoretical

constructs, e.g. the San Jiao, and abstract disease types like the Wei

Atrophy Syndrome or Inversion Syndrome (Jue).

 

Chapter VI: Epilogue: Toward a comparative historical anthropology of

medical thought -- this is what he's really interested in. Despite having

little medical interest, he has great admiration for the cultural

break-through achievement manifested in the SuWen. Note: Unschuld is

chairman of the History of Medicine department at the big university in

Munich. His main function there is studying and teaching the history of

(western) medicine to medical school students. The CM interest is sort of a

side-career for him, and he is trying to make it a legitimate academic

field, encourage scholars to get into it and institutions to support it. He

notes (in a workshop I attended with him last summer) that Chinese medicine

enjoyed a 2000 year history of virtual continuity, whereas in the West

there was hardly any period of more than 300 years of comparable cultural

(and medical theoretical) stability. Hence his study of CM provides insight

into the nature and principles of medicine as a cultural artifact, and this

he then applies to the understanding of Western medicine, Hence his latest

book -- " What is medicine? " (in German) -- where he presents a general

theory of medicine, in relation to history, culture, society, economics,

politics, etc. (I haven't read it through yet, but feel that we will hear

more of this book, and it will hopefully be translated into English soon.)

 

Then 35 pages of footnotes

 

Then a 110-page appendix about the " Doctrine of the 5 periods and 6 Qi " --

i.e. the contents of chapters 66-74 of the SuWen textus receptus, chapters

which were ADDED in the Tang dynasty edition by Wang Bing. I haven't read

this part through; it appears to be mostly numerology and astrology

relating to the climatic factors.

 

At the end, the usually scholarly extensive bibliography of source and

reference works, and a large index.

 

Summary / recommendation: For CM practitioners this book is of little

value. For serious students of the SuWen (and/or classics in general) it's

a must, and the further volumes will be anxiously anticipated (especially

since the various English translations of the SuWen are all patently

defective in one or more ways). For those with some interest in the history

of CM, if you haven't already, read Unschuld's major previous book

" Medicine in China -- A History of Ideas " (1976). Or if you want a briefer,

less scholarly introduction, his small paperback book " "

(ca. 1997).

[Guest guest]

Life-saver Judy. Ok the url is http://tinyurl.com/2o6jv but you'll

have to pay for it.

 

Attilio

 

" " <attiliodalberto> wrote:

> Has anyone had a chance to read Unschuld's new paper?

>

> TI: Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen: Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an

> Ancient Chinese

> Medical Text

> AU: Unschuld P.U.

> JN: The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine

> PD: 1 February 2004

> VO: 10

> NO: 1

> PG: 191-196(6)

> PB: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

> IS: 1075-5535

> URL:

> http://www.ingentaselect.com/rpsv/cgi-bin/cgi?

> body=linker & reqidx=1075-5535(20040201)10:1L.191;1-

>

> Attilio