Adverse Effects of wrong Points or Stimulation TCM/Energy Medicine

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Hi All, & Hi Brian,

 

Brian Beard [TCM List] wrote:

> There has been alot of discussion about whether AP can harm a

> patient if used incorrectly even if that is not your intent to do

> harm.

 

Considering the millions of AP sessions given each year, AP used

by properly trained professionals is a remarkably safe method of

therapy.

 

The more serious or fatal mistakes were due to:

 

(a) negligent or mal- practice (such as reuse of AP needles,

whether " sterilised " or not, thereby spreading hepatitis, AIDS or

other infections), or

 

(b) sheer ABUSE of AP (such as implanting cut-off AP needles

close to the spinal cord) rather than to AP per se.

 

Most published reviews on side-effects of AP attest to this. Any

one of the following (misuse of alcohol, cars, aspirin, phenacetin,

sedatives and heroin) has probably killed or injured many more

people in the past 30 years than AP has in its entire history.

 

That said, I agree that AP may have some adverse effects,

especially in very sensitive people.

 

> I've had the experience of patients worsening after a Tx when I did

> not intend that to happen. This happened to one patient who had a

> skin rash related to sexual abuse from years earlier. I attributed

> it to trying to do too powerful a treatment when the person wasn't

> ready for it, and perhaps I was trying to push the patient into

> getting better more than they were willing to do. There were no

> herbs involved. So this is somewhat different in that the root

> treatment (from my perspective and choice of), or attempt at it

> made the patient worse because they weren't ready to move, and a

> symptom treatment might have been more appropriate.

 

Most interesting! Apart from a few cases of severe needle-shock

and syncope/rigor, I have seen a few cases whose presenting Sxs

also worsened after a Tx.

 

One, a recent case, was a young Turkish married man (extermely

bright, university graduate and highly articulate) with a history of

severe midline facial & head pain. He believed that the pain was the

result of a curse, cast by the " Evil Eye " of some colleagues who

were jealous of his professional success, and possibly of his very

beautiful young wife.

 

In Session #1, I treated symptomatically, with very good result for

some days; then the pain returned, as before.

 

In session #2, I added energy points, as dictated by a pulse- and

pendulum- (dowsing) Dx. One of these points was CV06-Qihai -

Energy Sea. For several days afterwards, the man had " horrible

sensations " and fibrillations in the abdominal area, and some

nausea, and the pain became very severe.

 

I referred him immediately to a highly skilled MD (Singapore-trained

and an expert in AP), and also referred him to his own (Islamic)

priest for spiritual guidance. [The man had not discussed his

suspicions with his priest before that].

 

> I've also had the experience of myself getting worse after giving a

> treatment. The only time that I was aware of this happening was

> after treating someone for left knee pain. The patient left with

> no knee pain after the treatment, but I had left knee pain out of

> the blue that started immediately after the treatment and lasted

> for a few days. This was also when I was continually throwing off

> an invasion of some sort and my wei qi was certainly not at it's

> best. And I've also had massages where I felt worse afterwards. I

> think being a health care pratictioner for many invites the

> awareness of good and evil for treating, for either could be used

> at any time. It is also easy to try and ignore or downplay the

> existence of the dark side of medicine.

 

Fascinating stuff, Brian! Medicine, especally Energy-Spirit

Medicine, definitely has its dark side. I'm glad that I am not the

only one who knows/believes this on this List!

 

Roy Ogden, my first teacher in energy-healing (in the Spirit World

for some years now; may he Rest Easy) used " Distant Healing " on

some of his more seriously ill patients. His clinical results were

remarkable.

 

In " Distant Healing " (Qi Gong if you wish) Roy used to meditate or

concentrate on his patients, using their photographs as " Links " . He

believed that possession by a malevolent Entity/Spirit is the root

cause of MOST addiction (booze, drugs, gambling, etc).

 

Therefore, Roy also believed that the " Root Tx " in these cases was

to visualise disassociation of those Spirits from the body/psyche of

his patients and to ask God (pray) to be Merciful and grant those

troubled Spirits a peaceful " home " elsewhere.

 

One evening, Roy was using this technique on a set of about 6-10

of his addicted patients. He had their photos spread on the desk in

front of him. Within minutes of starting the meditation, Roy

developed catatonia (tonic paralysis).

 

Luckily, his daughter (an MD and great homeopath) entered the

room shortly after Roy's attack. She found him catatonic; he was

totally unconscious (at least non-responsive) to her attempts to

restore him to " normal " consciousness.

 

Seeing the photos in front of her father, and knowing Roy's

methods, Liz suspected what was happening - that one or more

" Disassociated Spirits " had attacked Roy and taken control of his

consciousness.

 

Liz gathered all the photos, threw them in the fire, and prayed for

her father's safe return. He regained consciousness, without any

sequels, very quickly afterwards.

 

Roy taught me to be very careful (ALWAYS ask God's help, and

ALWAYS tell someone else to " watch your back " ) when dealing

with possible Malevolent Spirits. That was why I referred the

Turkish man (to a highly skilled MD/Acupuncturist and to his

priest) immediately after the adverse reaction to needling Qihai.

The man did not report back to me, so I do not know the outcome

of that case.

 

> For those involved in the martial arts this becomes apparent as

> many cavity strikes use the knowledge of AP points to incapacitate

> the opponent.

 

" Cavity Strike " is an interesting term! The Chinese ideogram for Xue

(acupoint) has many meanings, translated as " point for needling " ,

hole, depression, hollow, cave or CAVITY!

 

> These strikes employ harm to a given area to which an appropriate

> needle treatment would provide benefit. It's a matter of degree.

> When does tickling stop and pain begin? I've known of people who

> practice qigong incorrectly and get permanently shen disturbed

> from it. And I've also known people who can brush a couple of

> points on me with their fingers and every muscle in my body will

> test weak. I think that anything that can provide a positive

> benefit must also be able to provide harm, because the positive

> doesn't exist without the negative. This perspective however does

> seem to vary quite alot from person to person and probably has a lot

> to do with their own experiences.

 

Agreed. Human and animal sensitivity and sensibility to stimuli -

external or internal - cover a very wide spectrum. Some need

strong stimuli, others cannot tolerate that. Some faint at the sight,

even the thought, of a needle. Bulls can " smell " a cow in heat from

several fields away, by sensing the phermones released by the

oestrous cow.

 

One of my children, who CAN tolerate needles, CANNOT tolerate a

30 mW laser; it causes an immediate " lousy creepy-crawly

sensation " . A client (who has had needle-AP 1-2 times a month for

years) reported the same sensation with laser. They are the only

two people whom I have met who would not accept laser Tx any

more.

 

I had another bad experience with a friend, who has serious and

chronic " Fatigue Syndrome " . My friend is also a CHM herbalist. My

Dx (on past medical history, present clinical grounds, and by

pulse/pendulum) was LV Qi Xu with LV Depression & Shen

Disturbed.

 

I gave him just one session of AP about 10 days ago - just a few

needles (from memory, LV08 + LV03 + KI07). I saw him Saturday

last; he was so ill after my AP Tx that he spent most of the first

week in bed, hardly fit to move.

 

This man knows that he is acutely sensitive to alcohol (so he

drinks very little, if any, alcohol). He is also supersensitive to herbal

medications; he cannot tolerate " normal doses " , even of formulas

that (in theory) should be very good for him. I tried an Ayurvedic LV

Tonic (LIV-52) on him some months ago. That tonic has given

excellent results in several clients (and in horses) with LV Xu, LV

Yang Rising, LV Depression / Shen Disturbed, etc. But my friend

stopped taking LIV-52 very quickly because he felt that it was

worsening his Fatigue Syndrome.

 

I used to think that using inappropriate acupoints, or method of

needle manipulation, can have no serious adverse effects. That is

probably true for the vast majority of human patients, but there are

some - usually very sensitive people - that prove otherwise.

Although I have not seen any published papers to confirm that, I

intend to be more gentle with my human clients until I can assess

their responses to the first 1-2 sessions.

 

But I have not seen evidence of adverse reactions to inappropriate

point selection or needle manipulation in animals, apart from a few

cases of local infection after needling in what I diagnosed

(afterwards) as severely immunosuppressed animals.

 

> But the very nature of this medicine is to not have any right or

> wrong way of doing it, only the way that happens to work for the

> person performing it. Brian

 

Brian, here I disagree with you a little! There MUST be a right and a

wrong way of using energy medicine. The problem for us (as

clinicians) is to find the right way as soon as we can for each of our

patients.

 

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