Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hi All, & Hi PJ, PJ wrote: > IMO, there are two main groups of acupuncturist: those who look at > scientific research as a means of understanding acupuncture, and > those who see it mostly as a system of healing. IMO, there is a third group, that belongs to both of the others. And many professionals are in the second group; we want to use AP well. To do this requires that we try to understand its mechanisms, and factors that impinge on its actions. > Modern science has proven or explained nothing about acupuncture so > far; it has come up with various theories and a large number of > statistic studies who often contradict each others and in any > cases prove absolutely nothing. With respect, PJ, I disagree. While it certainly is very far from explaining all the mechanisms of AP. modern science has found some important aspects, including the essential role of the body's neuroendocrine, auonomic and homeostatic mechanisms in mediating the clinical effects of AP. Without critical assessment and adherence to basic scentific principles, we will fall back into the age of the charlatan and wannabee. And, yes, all great healers (including shamans with great psychic skills), are wannabees. Healers want to help, to heal. But WANTING is not enough; we must also KNOW how and when to use AP, and when to refer a case to someone more competent or specialised than we. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Dear Phil, You make a very good point here about wanting to heal, being knowledgeable about the condition you're treating, realizing your limitations and the application of ethics in referring a patient on when you've reached your perceived ability to help the patient. I, also, want to mention that I've been following your works since I was in acupuncture school and have found your articles and research to be very informative and helpful. I particularly remember some of your articles on veterinarian acupuncture. You have a lot of energy. Keep up the good work. I feel honored to be in a group amongst such inquisitive and involved TCM practitioners and researchers. I shall continue to learn thanks to you all. Sincerely, Carole < wrote: Hi All, & Hi PJ, PJ wrote: > IMO, there are two main groups of acupuncturist: those who look at > scientific research as a means of understanding acupuncture, and > those who see it mostly as a system of healing. IMO, there is a third group, that belongs to both of the others. And many professionals are in the second group; we want to use AP well. To do this requires that we try to understand its mechanisms, and factors that impinge on its actions. > Modern science has proven or explained nothing about acupuncture so > far; it has come up with various theories and a large number of > statistic studies who often contradict each others and in any > cases prove absolutely nothing. With respect, PJ, I disagree. While it certainly is very far from explaining all the mechanisms of AP. modern science has found some important aspects, including the essential role of the body's neuroendocrine, auonomic and homeostatic mechanisms in mediating the clinical effects of AP. Without critical assessment and adherence to basic scentific principles, we will fall back into the age of the charlatan and wannabee. And, yes, all great healers (including shamans with great psychic skills), are wannabees. Healers want to help, to heal. But WANTING is not enough; we must also KNOW how and when to use AP, and when to refer a case to someone more competent or specialised than we. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups’ homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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