pitting oedema in the legs in summer(elements within)

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Clare wrotte:

 

Hi Salvador

 

Please can you elaborate on " elements within " ?

 

Claire

 

 

________

 

 

 

 

Hi Claire,

 

I have been avoiding your question! but now I will answer. My reticience

has been because i d

 

on't fully understand it myself, but with your indulgence, I will search the

nooks and crannies

 

of my present understanding.

 

I first came across the concept of elements within in the 5 Element school I

initially trained

 

in. It was always a nebulous concept at best. The idea being that once we

were good at

 

diagnosing the Primary C.F. (Causative Factor) ie. their rational being

that every person falls

 

under one primary catagory of the 5 Elements : Water type, Wood type etc.,

 

Within 5 element treatment, the practitioner, through 'subjective'

observation of (C.S.O.E)

 

face Colour, Sound of voice, body Odour, and prevalent Emotion that the

patient may be

 

struggling to express fluidly, will make a judgement as to which Element

is primarily

 

imbalanced in the the patient.

 

 

This will then make the basis of treatment. So if the Patient is Judged to

have a Water C.F.

 

then, in the majority of cases, the patient will invariably be treated in

The BL and KID meridian by even or Ton. technique.

 

An experienced 5 Element acupuncturist, again, using the

'subjective'diagsnotic technique of C.S.

 

O.E. will note that the person is also disturbed in one or two other

elements, lets say Fire and Wood.

 

The difficulty here is to be clear which is the Primary (C.F.) and which is

/are the other

 

Element(s) which would then be called the Elements within. An experienced 5

Element

 

acupuncturist might then decide that the other elements were distressed

enough to be treated

 

directly on those meridians. Or, she might judge that it would be sufficient

to treat the

 

disturbance by Ton. the Fire and Wood points within the BL and KID

meridians.

 

 

Now, personally, I am horrified by the above approach which I practiced for

a long time. For 2

 

reasons 1) it is highly subjective 2) In my now extensive experience thorugh

the use of C

 

Astrology I know That the above method is highly simplistic and innacurate.

 

Never the less, Through the use of Chinese astrology I have observed, to my

complete satisfaction, that

 

the above concept is 'essentially True'. There are Elements and Elements

within, But I will be more specific. There are meridians, and meridians

within.

 

Usually, people will display one primary meridian which is emotionally /

energetically

 

dysfunctional. What I mean by this is, that the person has emotions which

are too painful to be expressed, so are held in the subconscious and

'stashed' in the body as held in tension .

 

As acupuncturists, our experience of the above will be as symptoms affecting

a particular meridian / organs system and which the patient will benefit

from, if we sedate the relevant meridian. This will in turn, allow the

patient to integrate the held in/ controlled emotion.

 

Invariably there is one more meridian which also contains unexpressed

emotions, This other meridian may belong to the same Element as the above,

but statistically only in a small percentage of people perhaps 20% .For the

rest it will be in a separate element and its nature, from our clinical

perspective will be deficient.

 

In practical terms the average person contains 2 primary dysfunctional

meridians (with their related emotions), one which will manifest as Excess /

stag. the other Def. To date I have found no logical reason as to why one

person will primarily manifest more deficient and another Stag / Excess.

That they both operate in different % I have proved to my satisfaction time

and again.

 

According to chinese Astrology there is at least one more meridian involved

in the make up of an average individual and Whilst I have seen its dynamic

mental/ emotional energy at work, it does not require any clinical focus.

However, although I have yet to meet one, I have a suspicion that if a

person becomes chronicaly disturbed for a very long time, it may well then

become disturbed enough to require intervention.

 

I occasionally make use of the concept of the meridian within when I ton.

the Def. meridian. and when I sedate the stag meridian .

 

So what are these meridian that require sedating or tonifying? in a nutshell

they are the primary emotions that we hold / supress in our subconscious.

These will be held in our physical kinesthetic body, our emotional body or

our mental body. more on this subject? ahem...you'll have to ask

 

 

copyright@ salvador march

www.meridian-qi-acupuncture.com

 

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Hi Salvador

 

Thanks for sharing your experience with me. I also read your

website with interest. Now I just have to work out how to download

the programme to work out astrological charts!

 

Claire

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " salvador

march " <salvador_march@h...> wrote:

>

> Clare wrotte:

>

> Hi Salvador

>

> Please can you elaborate on " elements within " ?

>

> Claire

>

>

> ________

>

>

>

>

> Hi Claire,

>

> I have been avoiding your question! but now I will answer. My

reticience

> has been because i d

>

> on't fully understand it myself, but with your indulgence, I will

search the

> nooks and crannies

>

> of my present understanding.

>

> I first came across the concept of elements within in the 5

Element school I

> initially trained

>

> in. It was always a nebulous concept at best. The idea being that

once we

> were good at

>

> diagnosing the Primary C.F. (Causative Factor) ie. their rational

being

> that every person falls

>

> under one primary catagory of the 5 Elements : Water type, Wood

type etc.,

>

> Within 5 element treatment, the practitioner,

through 'subjective'

> observation of (C.S.O.E)

>

> face Colour, Sound of voice, body Odour, and prevalent Emotion

that the

> patient may be

>

> struggling to express fluidly, will make a judgement as to which

Element

> is primarily

>

> imbalanced in the the patient.

>

>

> This will then make the basis of treatment. So if the Patient is

Judged to

> have a Water C.F.

>

> then, in the majority of cases, the patient will invariably be

treated in

> The BL and KID meridian by even or Ton. technique.

>

> An experienced 5 Element acupuncturist, again, using the

> 'subjective'diagsnotic technique of C.S.

>

> O.E. will note that the person is also disturbed in one or two

other

> elements, lets say Fire and Wood.

>

> The difficulty here is to be clear which is the Primary (C.F.) and

which is

> /are the other

>

> Element(s) which would then be called the Elements within. An

experienced 5

> Element

>

> acupuncturist might then decide that the other elements were

distressed

> enough to be treated

>

> directly on those meridians. Or, she might judge that it would be

sufficient

> to treat the

>

> disturbance by Ton. the Fire and Wood points within the BL and KID

> meridians.

>

>

> Now, personally, I am horrified by the above approach which I

practiced for

> a long time. For 2

>

> reasons 1) it is highly subjective 2) In my now extensive

experience thorugh

> the use of C

>

> Astrology I know That the above method is highly simplistic and

innacurate.

>

> Never the less, Through the use of Chinese astrology I have

observed, to my

> complete satisfaction, that

>

> the above concept is 'essentially True'. There are Elements and

Elements

> within, But I will be more specific. There are meridians, and

meridians

> within.

>

> Usually, people will display one primary meridian which is

emotionally /

> energetically

>

> dysfunctional. What I mean by this is, that the person has

emotions which

> are too painful to be expressed, so are held in the subconscious

and

> 'stashed' in the body as held in tension .

>

> As acupuncturists, our experience of the above will be as symptoms

affecting

> a particular meridian / organs system and which the patient will

benefit

> from, if we sedate the relevant meridian. This will in turn, allow

the

> patient to integrate the held in/ controlled emotion.

>

> Invariably there is one more meridian which also contains

unexpressed

> emotions, This other meridian may belong to the same Element as

the above,

> but statistically only in a small percentage of people perhaps

20% .For the

> rest it will be in a separate element and its nature, from our

clinical

> perspective will be deficient.

>

> In practical terms the average person contains 2 primary

dysfunctional

> meridians (with their related emotions), one which will manifest

as Excess /

> stag. the other Def. To date I have found no logical reason as to

why one

> person will primarily manifest more deficient and another Stag /

Excess.

> That they both operate in different % I have proved to my

satisfaction time

> and again.

>

> According to chinese Astrology there is at least one more meridian

involved

> in the make up of an average individual and Whilst I have seen its

dynamic

> mental/ emotional energy at work, it does not require any clinical

focus.

> However, although I have yet to meet one, I have a suspicion that

if a

> person becomes chronicaly disturbed for a very long time, it may

well then

> become disturbed enough to require intervention.

>

> I occasionally make use of the concept of the meridian within

when I ton.

> the Def. meridian. and when I sedate the stag meridian .

>

> So what are these meridian that require sedating or tonifying? in

a nutshell

> they are the primary emotions that we hold / supress in our

subconscious.

> These will be held in our physical kinesthetic body, our emotional

body or

> our mental body. more on this subject? ahem...you'll have to

ask

>

>

> copyright@ salvador march

> www.meridian-qi-acupuncture.com

>

> _______________

> It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!

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Claire wrote:

 

>Hi Salvador

>

>Thanks for sharing your experience with me. I also read your

>website with interest. Now I just have to work out how to download

>the programme to work out astrological charts!

>

>Claire

 

_____________

 

NP Claire,

 

Incidentally if you look in my site you will note that I have planned for a

workshop in March Where I share my experiences and how to make my system

work for you. but this is in the UK.

 

 

I have recently been told in a Tarot card reading that my System

'Meridian-qi-acupuncture' will, initially be better received in another

country . So I am open to opportunities. I am willing to do Seminars any

where in the world. (Think big. I might get an offer up the road)

 

 

salvador

 

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[Guest guest]

May I request some input on the following?

 

1. With multiple practitioners working from one location, is there a

group-insurance

cover one can get at an economical rate?

 

2. Same for non-clinical liabilities related to premises?

 

3. Does one have to have a local or national insurer or can one access

foreign companies

with international reputation?

 

4. Can people suggest companies they have worked with to their satisfaction?

 

Obliged for help.

 

Regards,

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals