Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Well said ! I suggest that Qi is a metaphor for any type of substance or energy that happens to be the focus of attention. It could be 'nutritive Qi' (vitamins and minerals, OR essential fatty acids, OR carbohydrate calories OR protein aminos - wherever you are coming from) or it could be 'defensive Qi' (the immune system, a TH1-TH2 shift, anabolic processing - again wherever you care to come in on). The point here is the Chinese used language and metaphor to describe the world. They did not have a well developed quantitative (numeric) system. I think the notion of a 'zero' was not part of the Chinese number system: Large and small numbers (embodied by standard notation), the decimal place and 'accuracy', 'degree of error, 'falsifiability' and 'P - values' are things unique to western society. We need this highly focussed approach to get robots on Mars (and get your car out on the road each morning). We need the broad, systemic and qualitative approach that TCM has inherited to remind us we humans are NOT robots ! * somebody who almost died come to see me, and described it as the sky was calling. Yes, I know those feelings too. In the west I would have needed a priest to make sense of it and he/she would have tried their damdest to make a Christian out of me. The beauty of TCM thinking (at least our post revolutionary PRC-TCM) is that it gives us a chance to acknowledge these 'experiences' without turning it into some kind of religious gathering or freak side show at a mental institution. [ Speaking as a psychiatric social worker from an earlier incarnation I speak with authority on these things ;-] Qi is a metaphor for substances or energies we have no better way of describing. No need to mystify it, no need to invoke the ancestors, no need to invoke the ancient hidden teachings available only to the cognoscenti, the chosen few. The Chinese used language and metaphor to describe these things and they ended up with a system that was *quintessentially poetic* as well as highly functional and effective. Like a moth to a flame that poetry lures and distracts the unwary visitor, tricks them to turn away from the hard-nosed factual reality, the dialectic materialism behind the word " Qi " . Sammy. ykcul_ritsym [ykcul_ritsym] 20 January 2004 05:52 Chinese Medicine Re: What is Qi-Ken Rose C'moc kids, let see a little more heat and a little less flame, we're getting close to the purely subjective, jazz of chi/qi. the elan vital ,etc i had somebody who almost died come to see me, and described it as the sky was calling. thank you all, great group. Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups' homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click 'edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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