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Chinese Medicine , " dr. k "

<aryaone@e...> wrote:

> In a case history, does one look for:

>

> 1. A collection of symptoms which tend belatedly to a diagnostic

pattern?

> 2. Or a pattern which early on begins to diagnose itself?

>

 

I am with you on this one Dr. Holmes

One can follow symptoms and chase one's tail or treat the root

also. However, How does your present diagnostic method allow for a

root that is composed of 2 meridians?

 

For example I commonly find people who's root is Excess/ stagnant Lu

yet Def. in LI. Wood people with Excess /Stagnant Liv and Def. GB.

as well as Earth people with Ex./ Stag. SP and Def. ST. Water and

Fire much more rare.

 

I also find lots of other combinations spaning separate Meridians in

separate elements which I shant go into now.

 

Salvador

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Hi

 

My idea is that it depends on how critical the condition is. If I have a

migraine then I'd prefer you work to get rid of my the migrain symptoms NOW.

I'll think about the causes later. Once the critical condition is

alleviated does it make sense to me focus on the root/original cause. If I

have low grade lower back ache, weak knees etc, then I'd prefer you work the

root problem. The pain is not too much, so waiting for the root treatment

to kick in is ok. Basically, if the condition is acute, then treat the

symptom first, if not, go for the root first. If you can do both at the

same time then fine, it depends on how effectively you can treat the

condition: I just might not return for further treatment if after 10

sessions (exagerating here) I still have my blinding migrain and you've been

tending to metal the whole time.

 

IMHO offcourse.

 

:)

fred

 

 

dr. k [aryaone]

Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:37 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Re: Case histories - Precedence

 

 

In a case history, does one look for:

 

1. A collection of symptoms which tend belatedly to a diagnostic pattern?

2. Or a pattern which early on begins to diagnose itself?

 

Example, a case of acute Migraine:

 

Does one collate the findings,

a. Inside, Hot, Yang, Shi

b. GB channel points tender

c. Tongue red, yellow coat

d. Pulse obligingly wiry and Fast

e. Visible signs of LV Fire etc

.... and then decide Migraine and treat it as such?

 

Or,

a. Problem on Wood

b. Reports chronic Metal problems since childhood, asthma, allergies

c. Tongue and signs apart from above also confirms an older Metal problem.

d. LV Fire is the result of a Metal Offending Wood design.

.... and then treat the emergent Migraine, but also attend to the Metal root?

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

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I suppose, that depends upon whom the case study is for and whether

you're trying to relate the paralllels of East and West. I have

written several case studies for east end West. Let me know if I can

help:)

 

Debra

 

Chinese Medicine , " dr. k "

<aryaone@e...> wrote:

> In a case history, does one look for:

>

> 1. A collection of symptoms which tend belatedly to a diagnostic

pattern?

> 2. Or a pattern which early on begins to diagnose itself?

>

> Example, a case of acute Migraine:

>

> Does one collate the findings,

> a. Inside, Hot, Yang, Shi

> b. GB channel points tender

> c. Tongue red, yellow coat

> d. Pulse obligingly wiry and Fast

> e. Visible signs of LV Fire etc

> ... and then decide Migraine and treat it as such?

>

> Or,

> a. Problem on Wood

> b. Reports chronic Metal problems since childhood, asthma, allergies

> c. Tongue and signs apart from above also confirms an older Metal

problem.

> d. LV Fire is the result of a Metal Offending Wood design.

> ... and then treat the emergent Migraine, but also attend to the

Metal root?

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

> MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

> www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists

and health

> professionals

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Debra,

 

I'm working on a project to develop a case

history reporting form and protocol that

can be used to develop an online data base

of case data to serve as a basis for outcome

studies and further research. I'd be very

interested in any input you can provide

based on your experience in reporting on

cases. The topic of " parallels of East and West "

is of particular interest.

 

Thanks,

 

Ken

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Ken

 

My PhD students have developed a new way to record histories, please visit

 

http://chess1.chinese-remedy.com/notepad.php to put any text information into internet

 

http://chess1.chinese-remedy.com/searchtest.php to search the information and summary them to four groups

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

John Wu MD PhD MSc DCEH MGCTCM

Dr & HERBS Ltd, UK

www.drandherbs.com

0044 77 135 060 24

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