Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Perhaps the excess turns to deficiency and the cycle begins again... the nature of nature has changed... the “power of anger in the work of love” is a potent force. When the body rebels against subdued emotion, or expunges the body with the same velocity as the overriding emotion, it can (sometimes with help, sometimes without) lead to an awareness of the emotions that need to be released or reined in. Has there not always been some corner of the world in a rage? Medicine like nature is dynamic and evolving. IMHO, that is the beauty of Chinese medicine. Karen Donahue, M.Ac. --- Chinese Medicine wrote: > There are 5 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Re: The Angry Healer > " dr. k " <aryaone > 2. Re: Re: Questions > " dr. k " <aryaone > 3. Re: Questions > " kenrose2008 " > <kenrose2008 > 4. Re: Questions > " kenrose2008 " > <kenrose2008 > 5. Re: Re: The Angry Healer > " dr. k " <aryaone > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:10:03 -0700 > " dr. k " <aryaone > Re: Re: The Angry Healer > > For a perfect system, anger will not arise to the > point that it begins to > partake qualities of Wayward Wind. > > What if, long ago, humans simply never became angry > to the point of > harming others with harsh words, or harsher deeds? > > If there is so much rage these days, in ever > increasing circles of > involvement, is the human race deteriorating? > > Is society as a whole edging towards an end point, > beyond which there > will be a no-return state, of a world given to mad > rage, which is justified > by a madder Shen which justifies? > > Or has that stage already arrived? > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for > acupuncturists and health > professionals > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:28:26 -0700 > " dr. k " <aryaone > Re: Re: Questions > > > > Fernando: > Also, I think that most schools, and thus > practitioners, lack basic > palpatory and bodywork instruction/skills. Tuina > instruction is very > limited. Most practitioners are locating points by > anatomical > landmarks, instead of by palpation. I think that all > students should > first complete tuina/shiatsu intership before > inserting the first > needle. > > > > > Often one runs across the admonition in ancient > texts, " ... the astute > healer > depends on the left hand to heal, the right being > almost incidental " . Or > something > to that effect. > > Nan-Ching says, press the point with the left thumb > nail, " ... till the qi > arrives " , > and then manipulate. > > Elsewhere there is injunction to nurture the Wei and > when toning a > depletion, > make sure it is not wasted. As often one needs to, > in a repletion, place the > needle > only in the Wei so the Pathogen is extracted, and > zang organ qi kept safe. > > It would seem that the particular qi, Pathogenic, or > Protective, or Organ, > knows > what to do and where to go, and all one needs to do > is beckon it to the > point > with the left thumb nail. > > The Pathogenic qi will then naturally externalize. > The Protective qi will naturally internalize under > skin, [consolidate, > conserve, > join rank]. > The Organ qi will naturally internalize in organs > and channels [flow, move, > destagnate, dissipate, tone]. > > It almost seems that the healer is incidental to qi, > and qi incidental to > what is > required at that moment in the system. > > And if this is so, almost all measures taught by the > text are redundant. > > In my experience there has never been the need to > penetrate beyong the > tiniest > insertion, and the qi arrives, pulses settle, tongue > color and coat change, > points behave, symptoms lessen, and signs settle > down. > > It seems much is taught, because someone else wrote > it in a book. > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for > acupuncturists and health > professionals > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:29:36 -0000 > " kenrose2008 " <kenrose2008 > Re: Questions > > Fernando, Holmes, and All, > > I heartily agree with Fernando's comments about > the lack of instruction and skills in palpation > and bodywork among the general population of > students and educators in acupuncture and Chinese > medicine. It's not limited to the US in my > experience, > by the way. I'm scheduled to give a workshop > on palpation skills for acupuncturists at > next year's Rothenburg congress in Germany. > > And I'm developing a course and accompanying text > on the integration of the skills of taijiquan, > particularly emptying, receiving, neutralizing, > listening, and following...among others...within > the skill set of those who engage in diagnosis > and therapy using acupuncture, massage, and herbal > formulas. > > Dr. K's referrence to " ancient texts " that mention > some sort of left/right handedness, if that is > the implication of that remark, is indeed > irresistible > to me. Precisely what I can't resist is wondering > what on earth you're talking about, Dr. K. > > What ancient text? > > Given that you say one often runs across some > sort of admonition regarding the left and right > hand in ancient texts, will you name three such > texts and cite the passages that say this? > > I'm far from an expert on ancient texts, but > in many years of studying Chinese medical > literature, > I can't recall a single such mention or anything > to that effect. > > I also find the comments on the importance and > utility of controlling anger to be questionable > if not downright wrong. In my experience in the > clinic and in combat, the truly destructive > potential > of anger is actualized through a series of responses > that very much includes the urge to repress or > otherwise > === message truncated === New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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