Tears of joy

[Guest guest]

>One of the exercises we sometimes do in Buqi is actually pure laughing,

>because it brings the qi down. The idea is to laugh all the way down to

>the dantian. Interesting what you said Sammy about the abdominal muscles

>shortening when laughing...

 

Sofie, Daniel, Beatrice and Anna McBrearty-Bracke

in Antwerp, Belgium

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[Guest guest]

Tears of Joy, a 5 E explanation:

 

Water and Fire have a direct link by the Ko circuit, which vie

for a favorable qi gradient by a constant tug of war.

 

Wood is the intermediary, favorably disposed as Son to Water, and

as Mother to Fire. There is no tug of war here, but a simple

slide of qi, back and forth, from concerned elements.

 

When someone laughs to an inordinate degree, Joy qi of the Fire

is used up. As the element is yang and vivacious, this can be dramatic,

and sudden.

 

The sequence of tears in the eye from joy is:

1. Person laughs inordinately, HT qi diminished.

2. K rules Water, which flows towards HT because HT is Empty.

3. HT is Kingly Fire and refuses Water, which will extinguish it.

4. Water returns to K, and collects there.

5. Wood in turn runs to support a flagging Son, Fire.

6. In turn Wood becomes Empty.

7. K turns upon Wood and releases Water, as in the natural course.

8. Wood accepts Water, without resistance.

9. Wood is seen in the eyes, and Water collects there.

 

QED. Tears in the eyes at inordinate laughter.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

[Guest guest]

Hi again Dr. Holmes. What you say is probably nice as an anacdote, I

am afraid I can not accept it as an energetic/physioilogic fact, nor

even as a theoretical suggestion. The 5-phase is only another way to

explain the mutations of energy in the body on a long term basis. A

shifting of energy from one phase to another in a way that creates

disharmony and/or excess-deficiency patterns, diseases, pathological

changes, long-standing changes in facial colors, etc., is a process

that may take considerable time (and sometimes) even years. These

are processes that involve psychic, climatic, dietary, genetic and

traumatic factors that affect our physiology at the most fundamental

level. It is absurd, in my opinion, to attribute this deep pattern

of energetic mutations to simple physiologic changes that occur in

swift seconds... My teacher of the 5-elements theory, Dr. Wu Wei

Ping of Taiwan (who was also Dr. Lavier's teacher, BTW) would have

laughed loudly at such a notion (no mockery intended here). Yet, if

you would like to attribute an explanation to the tears phenomenon

via the channels theory, it would probably make a better sense. I

mean the superficial flow of energy through the channels.

The Ko and Sheng cycles are actually so intricate in their mutual

correspndences that you can find a " proof " to almost any assumption

that you make by using one of these see-saw correspondences of these

cycles. We do agree, nonetheless, that the liver brings up the tears

to the eyes, this way or the other...

 

Now, if we are on riddles, let me ask you one (and of corse the rest

of the forum): Does Yin Qi ascend or descend in the body? We

know that by symptoms Yin is heavier and accumulates downward and

Yang, which is lighter - ascends. Yet, Yin Qi arises from below

(earth) and ascends upward, I.e.: kidney, liver, spleen meridians,

etc. How come?

 

 

 

 

 

> Tears of Joy, a 5 E explanation:

>

> Water and Fire have a direct link by the Ko circuit, which vie

> for a favorable qi gradient by a constant tug of war.

>

> Wood is the intermediary, favorably disposed as Son to Water, and

> as Mother to Fire. There is no tug of war here, but a simple

> slide of qi, back and forth, from concerned elements.

>

> When someone laughs to an inordinate degree, Joy qi of the Fire

> is used up. As the element is yang and vivacious, this can be

dramatic,

> and sudden.

>

> The sequence of tears in the eye from joy is:

> 1. Person laughs inordinately, HT qi diminished.

> 2. K rules Water, which flows towards HT because HT is Empty.

> 3. HT is Kingly Fire and refuses Water, which will extinguish it.

> 4. Water returns to K, and collects there.

> 5. Wood in turn runs to support a flagging Son, Fire.

> 6. In turn Wood becomes Empty.

> 7. K turns upon Wood and releases Water, as in the natural course.

> 8. Wood accepts Water, without resistance.

> 9. Wood is seen in the eyes, and Water collects there.

>

> QED. Tears in the eyes at inordinate laughter.

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

> MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

> www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists

and health

> professionals

[Guest guest]

Shmuel Halevi Ph.D: Now, if we are on riddles, let me ask you one (and of

corse the rest

of the forum)

>

I am not.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

[Guest guest]

[shmuel Halevi Ph.D: Now, if we are on riddles, let me ask you one (and of

corse the rest of the forum)]

>

To each, one's own poison.

 

For me the 5 Element structure is very vital, responsive and real. It is

sensitive to the slightest stimulus, and very gratifying in terms of

clinical

results it delivers.

 

There is no dreamlike quality, nor surmise, nor fanciful projection. It is

a wholly clinical, precise, compact methodology which gives the fascinating

freedom to move qi wherever there is ebb, and move it within moments

of placing the critical needle or ibuki cone or the tiny seed.

 

Long ago I weaned myself from symptomatic needles, and treating the

illness as it presented itself; for that was the tertiary result, of a

primary

cause, which had mutated, through a secondary manifestation.

 

The same illness has three faces, and none remotely resembling the other.

 

A SP yin Deficiency in the mother during pregnancy, delivers a Metal

Tarnished

child, who in time graduates from the asthma and skin allergies, to

migraine, and

depressions.

 

He is 40, upto his ears in medications for the low-grade temporal headaches,

and the occasional cluster horror.

 

The 5 E structure invites you to deep abysses, and the most horrifying

missteps.

It also makes it possible to treat GB migraines by sustaining the Mother SP,

avoiding the intermediary LU yin problems, now fast asleep, altogether.

 

In my idle moments, or when I feel particularly uncharitable, I apply the

5 E grid to live people around me. What accrues as wisdom is kept to

myself, because in terms of humanoids, there are no points to place

needles in, to remedy dysfunction and denial.

 

I have looking at the Grid for 30 odd years, and just when I think I

have the hang of it, I see it from the corner of my eye, smiling at me.

 

And its maddeningly patronizing.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals