Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Hi Bobbi, & All, Attilio wrote: >> A cocktail of potentially harmful man-made chemicals has been found in the blood of every person tested in a new UK study... Bobbi replied: > Thanks for this!! I have just heard the same thing about people in > the US. I think that this is such a big issue for the health care > system but it is so hard to get anywhere because our cultures are > so addicted to the lifestyle that causes this not to mention the > corporate structure behind all these chemicals. What about > chelation as a possible bonding to take these out of the body?? > Does anyone have any ideas about how to change this from a clean > out the body point of view?? Bobbi I understand that many of the organic toxins (PBCs, dioxins, etc) are fat-soluble, i.e. stored in the fat depots of the body. Many of the toxic heavy metals (Pb, As, Cd, Hg, etc) store in many organs, such as liver, kidney, bone, etc. Chelation can strip heaxy metals, but it is very difficult to strip organic toxins from tissues. Would a programme of planned weight loss, together with drinking a lot of extra water/fruit juices + use of Herbs to Clear Toxin and Build/Protect LV & KI be useful? Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Phil: Would a programme of planned weight loss, together with drinking a lot of extra water/fruit juices + use of Herbs to Clear Toxin and Build/Protect LV & KI be useful? > It would. Add homeopathy which clears at the genetic code level. In this art they make a mega-diluted potion from a known substance, and when it is triturated to 1 in a million parts of an inert substance like sugar, it becomes a very powerful harmonizing agent. My colleague tells me that salts made from pristine, untouched substances from centuries ago may bring in the clean, untoxic states of that time, and make that available to folks in this somewhat messed up age. We as mega-beings forget; the cells never do. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health professionals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Where do you find any evidence that homeopathy " clears at the genetic code level " 2) What is it supposed to clear at the genetic code level? regards, PJ On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 02:37 pm, dr. k wrote: > Phil: Would a programme of planned weight loss, together with drinking > a lot of extra water/fruit juices + use of Herbs to Clear Toxin and > Build/Protect LV & KI be useful? > > > It would. Add homeopathy which clears at the genetic code level. > > In this art they make a mega-diluted potion from a known substance, > and when > it is triturated to 1 in a million parts of an inert substance like > sugar, > it becomes a > very powerful harmonizing agent. > > My colleague tells me that salts made from pristine, untouched > substances > from > centuries ago may bring in the clean, untoxic states of that time, and > make > that > available to folks in this somewhat messed up age. > > We as mega-beings forget; the cells never do. > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and > health > professionals > > > <image.tiff> > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or > none, visit the groups’ homepage: > Chinese Medicine/ click > ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. > > To send an email to > <Chinese Medicine- > from the > email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but > will still recieve messages for a few days. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 PJ wrote: Where do you find any evidence that homeopathy " clears at the genetic code level " 2) What is it supposed to clear at the genetic code level? > Genetic code is no more than a codil of a possible series of states of being. In that sense, there must have been times when there was less illness, and a time when there was none, and a state of perfect harmony existed between nature and the human. Genetic code here would mean a knowledge and a possibility of that state of being, which is now superimposed by centiris of a compromised profile of health. Particular homeopathic salts mimic particular illnesses, and induce the body in a sense to " live " these and releasse these, so the health status moves to a deeper and less toxic state. What monitors these transitions, and has lep a faithful record of a more pristine state of humanity, is the repository of information, the Code. Wjat is supposed to clear at the genetic level is the superimpoosed sense of illness. Wth this rejected, another subset of information comes to the fore, of a healthier state of being. Homeopathic salts are the " inducers " , the genetic protein sequence, the goal, the template, the state tpowards which the organism strives. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health professionals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 --- Pierre jean cousin wrote: > Where do you find any evidence that homeopathy " clears at the genetic > code level " > 2) What is it supposed to clear at the genetic code level? > > regards, > PJ A fellow student (but experienced practitioner on this field of knowledge) told me about clearing mercury from the system, coming from amalgam fillings for example. He told me that mercury attaches itself to the DNA and that there are certain homeopatic medicines that can release this mercury from the DNA and force it out of the cell. He warned though that such a treatment has be combined with a drainage to get the mercury completely out of the system and body, otherwise it will be free in the body and will be much more harmfull than when attached in the cells. Alwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Hello again, I have worked all my life with empirical medicine, and I have no problem with it: basically I do not know how it works, but I know how to make it work. And that is fine for me. When somebody make such a statement: " that mercury attaches itself to the DNA and that there are certain homeopatic medicines that can release this mercury from the DNA and force it out of the cell " we move from the field of empirical medicine into the field of Scientific medicine; there is not a shred of evidence to back up such a statement. Basically it sound very good, but it is a load of bull.... Regards, PJ On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 03:33 pm, Alwin van Egmond wrote: > --- Pierre jean cousin wrote: > > Where do you find any evidence that homeopathy " clears at the > genetic > > code level " > > 2) What is it supposed to clear at the genetic code level? > > > > regards, > > PJ > > A fellow student (but experienced practitioner on this field of > knowledge) told me about clearing mercury from the system, coming > from amalgam fillings for example. > > He told me that mercury attaches itself to the DNA and that there are > certain homeopatic medicines that can release this mercury from the > DNA and force it out of the cell. He warned though that such a > treatment has be combined with a drainage to get the mercury > completely out of the system and body, otherwise it will be free in > the body and will be much more harmfull than when attached in the > cells. > > Alwin > > <image.tiff> > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or > none, visit the groups’ homepage: > Chinese Medicine/ click > ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. > > To send an email to > <Chinese Medicine- > from the > email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but > will still recieve messages for a few days. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 What you believe in is perfectly respectable and has some interesting implications from a philosophical point of view and possibly as a working hypothesis for clinical research. What I am objecting to is that a set of belief or hypothesis is presented as a fact. It is misleading to practitionners and to patients Regards, PJ On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 03:25 pm, dr. k wrote: > PJ wrote: Where do you find any evidence that homeopathy " clears at the > genetic code level " > 2) What is it supposed to clear at the genetic code level? >> > Genetic code is no more than a codil of a possible series of states of > being. In > that sense, there must have been times when there was less illness, > and a > time > when there was none, and a state of perfect harmony existed between > nature > and the human. > > Genetic code here would mean a knowledge and a possibility of that > state > of being, which is now superimposed by centiris of a compromised > profile > of health. > > Particular homeopathic salts mimic particular illnesses, and induce > the body > in a sense to " live " these and releasse these, so the health status > moves to > a deeper > and less toxic state. > > What monitors these transitions, and has lep a faithful record of a > more > pristine state of humanity, is the repository of information, the Code. > > Wjat is supposed to clear at the genetic level is the superimpoosed > sense > of illness. Wth this rejected, another subset of information comes to > the > fore, > of a healthier state of being. > > Homeopathic salts are the " inducers " , the genetic protein sequence, the > goal, > the template, the state tpowards which the organism strives. > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and > health > professionals > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 [PJ: What you believe in is perfectly respectable and has some interesting implications from a philosophical point of view and possibly as a working hypothesis for clinical research. What I am objecting to is that a set of belief or hypothesis is presented as a fact. It is misleading to practitionners and to patients] This is nothing more than information and presented as such. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health professionals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 --- Pierre jean cousin wrote: > Hello again, I have worked all my life with empirical medicine, and > I have no problem with it: basically I do not know how it works, > but I know how to make it work. And that is fine for me. I'm complete with you on this one. > Basically it sound very good, but it is a load of bull.... Thanks, I will tell him next time I see him ) LOL Alwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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