Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 I recently had an exam on the Lung channel and was asked the question: which point on the Lu channel has the strongest action to tonify qi. Lu9 tonifies qi, and it is the yuan source point. I was told Lu1 is the strongest qi tonifier on the channel. Lu1 is the front-mu, and has a strong action to move and descend qi, but that is a distinctly different action than tonifying. I'd be gratified if those with more experience could help shed some light on this. -Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 L-9 as you have mentioned Tim, is the Yuan-source point of the lung meridian. Yuan points are usually utilized in order to tonify as they have a direct connection to their related organ via the Yuan Qi. Moreover, L-9 is also the earth point of the lung channel. The Nei Jing says that in order to tonify you need to stimulate the mother, and in order to drain you need to stimulate the son. Since lung belongs to the metal phase, you will need to tonify its earth point whch is the mother, therefore puncture L-9. Also clinical experience shows that L-9 is the best point for tonification purposes on the lung channel, whereas L-5, L-1, L-10, L-6, L-11, which are all very strong points, are usually used in excess syndromes. In my opinion, use L-9 in conjunction with B-13 and St-36 and you'll have a very strong tonification effect on this system. Shmuel Halevi - http://acumedico.com > I recently had an exam on the Lung channel and was asked the question: which > point on the Lu channel has the strongest action to tonify qi. Lu9 tonifies > qi, and it is the yuan source point. I was told Lu1 is the strongest qi > tonifier on the channel. Lu1 is the front-mu, and has a strong action to > move and descend qi, but that is a distinctly different action than > tonifying. I'd be gratified if those with more experience could help shed > some light on this. > > -Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Indeed, Deadman cites the 5 element correspondence you list below as the reason Lu9 is the strongest to tonify qi. The only mention of qi tonification for Lu1 is when used in combo with pts like B-13 and St-36. Since the justification is in the realm of 5 elements, I posted the same question on Lonnie Jarret's Nourishing Destiny list. It will be interesting to see what turns up. acumedico [halevis] Friday, November 21, 2003 12:11 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Lung Channel energetics L-9 as you have mentioned Tim, is the Yuan-source point of the lung meridian. Yuan points are usually utilized in order to tonify as they have a direct connection to their related organ via the Yuan Qi. Moreover, L-9 is also the earth point of the lung channel. The Nei Jing says that in order to tonify you need to stimulate the mother, and in order to drain you need to stimulate the son. Since lung belongs to the metal phase, you will need to tonify its earth point whch is the mother, therefore puncture L-9. Also clinical experience shows that L-9 is the best point for tonification purposes on the lung channel, whereas L-5, L-1, L-10, L-6, L-11, which are all very strong points, are usually used in excess syndromes. In my opinion, use L-9 in conjunction with B-13 and St-36 and you'll have a very strong tonification effect on this system. Shmuel Halevi - http://acumedico.com > I recently had an exam on the Lung channel and was asked the question: which > point on the Lu channel has the strongest action to tonify qi. Lu9 tonifies > qi, and it is the yuan source point. I was told Lu1 is the strongest qi > tonifier on the channel. Lu1 is the front-mu, and has a strong action to > move and descend qi, but that is a distinctly different action than > tonifying. I'd be gratified if those with more experience could help shed > some light on this. > > -Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Chinese Medicine , " acumedico " <halevis@a...> wrote: >The Nei Jing says that in order to tonify you need to stimulate the > mother, and in order to drain you need to stimulate the son. Not Nei Jing, but Nan Jing (chap. 69). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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