Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Please: View - Encoding - Chinese Traditional (Big5) The tonifying and dispersing principles are synthesized in the " Mother-Son " (¥À¤l muzi) law, exposed in Nanjing Ãø¸g, chap. 69: " µêªÌ¸É¨ä¥À¡A¹êªÌÂm¨ä¤l¡C " - " the emptiness is tonified by the mother, the plenitude is dispersed by the son " ; the ¥À mother being the precedent agent (1) on the ¥Í sheng cycle, and the ¤l son being the following agent on the ¥Í sheng cycle. This could explain us the phrases: " ªï¦Ó¹Ü¤§ " - " to receive and take by force " , and " ÀH¦ÓÀÙ¤§ " - " to follow and increase " , used in Nanjing Ãø¸g, chap. 79 for Âm dispersing (the 'son' ªï welcomes to ¹Ü take by force the plenitude) and ¸É tonifying (the 'mother' ÀH follows from behind to ÀÙ sustain [increase] the emptiness). Laurentiu Teodorescu -------------------------------- 1 - ¦æ xing = to go, to do, to action; I used 'agent' from the lat. ago, agere, egi, actum, a term implying even the idea of movement, than that of the aim of the way (¹D dao) traced in advance (©R ming = destiny). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 In sheng cycle is shen an alternative spelling / pronunciation ? teo_lau [teo_lau]10 November 2003 04:02Chinese Medicine Subject: On "tonifying and dispersing"Please: View - Encoding - Chinese Traditional (Big5)The tonifying and dispersing principles are synthesized in the "Mother-Son" (¥À¤l muzi) law, exposed in Nanjing Ãø¸g, chap. 69: "µêªÌ¸É¨ä¥À¡A¹êªÌÂm¨ä¤l¡C" - "the emptiness is tonified by the mother, the plenitude is dispersed by the son"; the ¥À mother being the precedent agent (1) on the ¥Í sheng cycle, and the ¤l son being the following agent on the ¥Í sheng cycle. This could explain us the phrases: "ªï¦Ó¹Ü¤§" - "to receive and take by force", and "ÀH¦ÓÀÙ¤§" - "to follow and increase", used in Nanjing Ãø¸g, chap. 79 for Âm dispersing (the 'son' ªï welcomes to ¹Ü take by force the plenitude) and ¸É tonifying (the 'mother' ÀH follows from behind to ÀÙ sustain [increase] the emptiness).Laurentiu Teodorescu--------------------------------1 - ¦æ xing = to go, to do, to action; I used 'agent' from the lat. ago, agere, egi, actum, a term implying even the idea of movement, than that of the aim of the way (¹D dao) traced in advance (©R ming = destiny).Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups’ homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to<Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 No, Sheng means generating or reproducing, Shen normally means spirit or mental status. Qin Meng relaxingnaturalhealth --- ga.bates wrote: > In sheng cycle is shen an alternative spelling / > pronunciation ? > > teo_lau [teo_lau] > 10 November 2003 04:02 > Chinese Medicine > On " tonifying and dispersing " > > > Please: View - Encoding - Chinese Traditional > (Big5) > > The tonifying and dispersing principles are > synthesized in > the " Mother-Son " (¥À¤l muzi) law, exposed in > Nanjing Ãø¸g, chap. > 69: " µêªÌ¸É¨ä¥À¡A¹êªÌÂm¨ä¤l¡C " - " the emptiness is > tonified by the > mother, the plenitude is dispersed by the son " ; > the ¥À mother being > the precedent agent (1) on the ¥Í sheng cycle, and > the ¤l son being > the following agent on the ¥Í sheng cycle. > This could explain us the phrases: " ªï¦Ó¹Ü¤§ " - > " to receive and take > by force " , and " ÀH¦ÓÀÙ¤§ " - " to follow and > increase " , used in > Nanjing Ãø¸g, chap. 79 for Âm dispersing (the > 'son' ªï welcomes to > ¹Ü take by force the plenitude) and ¸É tonifying > (the 'mother' ÀH > follows from behind to ÀÙ sustain [increase] the > emptiness). > > Laurentiu Teodorescu > > -------------------------------- > 1 - ¦æ xing = to go, to do, to action; I used > 'agent' from the lat. > ago, agere, egi, actum, a term implying even the > idea of movement, > than that of the aim of the way (¹D dao) traced in > advance (©R ming > = destiny). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hi Laurentiu, Great explanation! These phrases ( " to receive and take by force " , and " to follow and increase " ) or variants come from lingshu 1, 3, 9, and 60, as well as suwen 66 (with something related in 69, 71). Coincidentally, I was looking at them in the last two weeks, while thinking about lingshu 1 and 3. Thanks, Lorraine --- teo_lau <teo_lau wrote: > This could explain us the phrases: " & #36814; & #32780; & #22890; & #20043; " - " to > receive and take > by force " , and " & #38568; & #32780; & #28639; & #20043; " - " to follow and > increase " , used in > Nanjing & #38627; & #32147;, chap. 79 for & #28681; dispersing (the 'son' > & #36814; welcomes to > & #22890; take by force the plenitude) and & #35036; tonifying > (the 'mother' & #38568; > follows from behind to & #28639; sustain [increase] the > emptiness). ===== Lorraine Wilcox L.Ac. Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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