Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3175088.stm Even facts " forgotten " by people during a busy day may be retrieved if this is followed by a good night's sleep. Researchers from the University of Chicago asked volunteers to remember simple words. Many found their memories letting them down towards the end of the day, but the following morning, those who had slept well could recall much more. Researchers, writing in the journal Nature, said the brain could " rescue " lost memories during the night. When the brain is first asked to remember something, that memory is laid down in an " unstable " state, meaning that it is possible that it could be lost. At some point, the brain consolidates those it deems important into a " stable " , more permanent state. However, the Chicago researchers suggested that it was possible for a " stable " memory to be made " unstable " again - simply by the act of recalling it. This would mean that memories could be modified then filed away again in the face of new experiences. Speech test The 12 volunteers tested in the experiment were played words created through a speech synthesizer which were purposely difficult to understand. Initially, the written version of the word was available, but afterwards the volunteers were asked to identify the word from the audio version only. Tests revealed that the ability to recall the right word tended to tail off as the day ended. However, when the volunteers were retested after a good night's sleep, they were able to recall some words that they had " forgotten " the previous evening. Dr Daniel Margoliash, one of the study authors, said: " Sleep consolidates memories, protecting them against subsequent interference or decay. " Sleep also appears to 'recover' or restore memories. " He said: " If performance is reduced by decay, sleep might actively recover what has been lost. " Mental pruning Dr Karim Nader, from the Department of Psychology in McGill University in Montreal, said: " Memory research is undergoing a transformation - no longer is memory thought to be a hard-wiring of the brain, instead it seems to be a process of storage and re- storage. " Sleep helps some memories 'mature' and also prunes out unimportant memories. " Good point about the Shen. Any comments? Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Analysis of the content of fantasy, including dreams, was (and still is I should think) a mainstay of the psychoanalytic school. You may recall names like Freud, Jung, and Reich. Dreaming was seen as a way for the psyche to come to terms with traumatic experience (negative emotions, forbidden desires) the conscious could not handle directly but nevertheless needed to reconcile with the 'whole person'. Piaget had something to say about the function of dreaming as well, more in line with Attilio's quote - that dreaming is a form of internalised behaviour that facilitates adaptation to the environment through reinforcement actions (repetition and rehearsal in dreams) and cancellation of negative ones, i.e., learning the right stuff and discarding the rest Some dreams just don't seem to make sense at all no matter how hard you try. I have heard the phrase " junk dreams " and think that is appropriate for the 'disposal service' performed on redundant bits of memory by a special type of dreaming process. It seems to be the opposite to 'repetition and rehearsal' - a kind of 'interference - cancellation'. Then there is www.dreamhealer.com Everyone should read Adam's book. Cheers, Sammy. [attiliodalberto] 09 October 2003 22:27 Chinese Medicine Quality sleep 'rescues memories' Taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3175088.stm Even facts " forgotten " by people during a busy day may be retrieved if this is followed by a good night's sleep. Researchers from the University of Chicago asked volunteers to remember simple words. Many found their memories letting them down towards the end of the day, but the following morning, those who had slept well could recall much more. Researchers, writing in the journal Nature, said the brain could " rescue " lost memories during the night. When the brain is first asked to remember something, that memory is laid down in an " unstable " state, meaning that it is possible that it could be lost. At some point, the brain consolidates those it deems important into a " stable " , more permanent state. However, the Chicago researchers suggested that it was possible for a " stable " memory to be made " unstable " again - simply by the act of recalling it. This would mean that memories could be modified then filed away again in the face of new experiences. Speech test The 12 volunteers tested in the experiment were played words created through a speech synthesizer which were purposely difficult to understand. Initially, the written version of the word was available, but afterwards the volunteers were asked to identify the word from the audio version only. Tests revealed that the ability to recall the right word tended to tail off as the day ended. However, when the volunteers were retested after a good night's sleep, they were able to recall some words that they had " forgotten " the previous evening. Dr Daniel Margoliash, one of the study authors, said: " Sleep consolidates memories, protecting them against subsequent interference or decay. " Sleep also appears to 'recover' or restore memories. " He said: " If performance is reduced by decay, sleep might actively recover what has been lost. " Mental pruning Dr Karim Nader, from the Department of Psychology in McGill University in Montreal, said: " Memory research is undergoing a transformation - no longer is memory thought to be a hard-wiring of the brain, instead it seems to be a process of storage and re- storage. " Sleep helps some memories 'mature' and also prunes out unimportant memories. " Good point about the Shen. Any comments? Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Attilio, This is great stuff. I've been more or less guiding my physiology students toward these considerations for 14 years. Especially significant is that no tissue repair and maintenance occurs in the absence of growth hormone. GH is only released during sleep. Also the second messenger hormones (somatomedins) of the liver do most of the work under GH stimulation. That means you can not be sleeping off a large dose of alcohol for sleep to be restorative. This is part of a large subtext of my year long anatomy/physiology course at Merritt College. Other parts of the subtext include " good stress " versus " bad stress " . That takes a long essay to explain. An important detail is that memory studies show that long term memory requires " consolidation " which only happens during sleep. In gratitude, Emmanuel Segmen Merritt College - Chinese Medicine Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:27 PM Quality sleep 'rescues memories' Taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3175088.stm Even facts " forgotten " by people during a busy day may be retrieved if this is followed by a good night's sleep. Researchers from the University of Chicago asked volunteers to remember simple words. Many found their memories letting them down towards the end of the day, but the following morning, those who had slept well could recall much more. Researchers, writing in the journal Nature, said the brain could " rescue " lost memories during the night. When the brain is first asked to remember something, that memory is laid down in an " unstable " state, meaning that it is possible that it could be lost. At some point, the brain consolidates those it deems important into a " stable " , more permanent state. However, the Chicago researchers suggested that it was possible for a " stable " memory to be made " unstable " again - simply by the act of recalling it. This would mean that memories could be modified then filed away again in the face of new experiences. Speech test The 12 volunteers tested in the experiment were played words created through a speech synthesizer which were purposely difficult to understand. Initially, the written version of the word was available, but afterwards the volunteers were asked to identify the word from the audio version only. Tests revealed that the ability to recall the right word tended to tail off as the day ended. However, when the volunteers were retested after a good night's sleep, they were able to recall some words that they had " forgotten " the previous evening. Dr Daniel Margoliash, one of the study authors, said: " Sleep consolidates memories, protecting them against subsequent interference or decay. " Sleep also appears to 'recover' or restore memories. " He said: " If performance is reduced by decay, sleep might actively recover what has been lost. " Mental pruning Dr Karim Nader, from the Department of Psychology in McGill University in Montreal, said: " Memory research is undergoing a transformation - no longer is memory thought to be a hard-wiring of the brain, instead it seems to be a process of storage and re- storage. " Sleep helps some memories 'mature' and also prunes out unimportant memories. " Good point about the Shen. Any comments? Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Attilio, Emmanuel, This is the reason why in my treatment of " fibromyalgia " , poor sleep is the first sign I treat. Without good sleep there's no healing from chronic pain for the same reasons you've stated below. Regards, Fernando Chinese Medicine , " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote: > Attilio, > > This is great stuff. I've been more or less guiding my physiology students toward these considerations for 14 years. Especially significant is that no tissue repair and maintenance occurs in the absence of growth hormone. GH is only released during sleep. Also the second messenger hormones (somatomedins) of the liver do most of the work under GH stimulation. That means you can not be sleeping off a large dose of alcohol for sleep to be restorative. This is part of a large subtext of my year long anatomy/physiology course at Merritt College. Other parts of the subtext include " good stress " versus " bad stress " . That takes a long essay to explain. An important detail is that memory studies show that long term memory requires " consolidation " which only happens during sleep. > > In gratitude, > Emmanuel Segmen > Merritt College > > - > > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:27 PM > Quality sleep 'rescues memories' > > > Taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3175088.stm > > Even facts " forgotten " by people during a busy day may be retrieved > if this is followed by a good night's sleep. > Researchers from the University of Chicago asked volunteers to > remember simple words. > > Many found their memories letting them down towards the end of the > day, but the following morning, those who had slept well could > recall much more. > > Researchers, writing in the journal Nature, said the brain > could " rescue " lost memories during the night. > > When the brain is first asked to remember something, that memory is > laid down in an " unstable " state, meaning that it is possible that > it could be lost. > > At some point, the brain consolidates those it deems important into > a " stable " , more permanent state. > > However, the Chicago researchers suggested that it was possible for > a " stable " memory to be made " unstable " again - simply by the act of > recalling it. > > This would mean that memories could be modified then filed away > again in the face of new experiences. > > Speech test > > The 12 volunteers tested in the experiment were played words created > through a speech synthesizer which were purposely difficult to > understand. > > Initially, the written version of the word was available, but > afterwards the volunteers were asked to identify the word from the > audio version only. > > Tests revealed that the ability to recall the right word tended to > tail off as the day ended. > > However, when the volunteers were retested after a good night's > sleep, they were able to recall some words that they had " forgotten " > the previous evening. > > Dr Daniel Margoliash, one of the study authors, said: " Sleep > consolidates memories, protecting them against subsequent > interference or decay. > > " Sleep also appears to 'recover' or restore memories. " > > He said: " If performance is reduced by decay, sleep might actively > recover what has been lost. " > > Mental pruning > > Dr Karim Nader, from the Department of Psychology in McGill > University in Montreal, said: " Memory research is undergoing a > transformation - no longer is memory thought to be a hard-wiring of > the brain, instead it seems to be a process of storage and re- > storage. > > " Sleep helps some memories 'mature' and also prunes out unimportant > memories. " > > > Good point about the Shen. Any comments? > > Attilio > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Thanks Fernando, Healing from chronic pain is one that I'll have to add to my long list of sleep related perspectives. I guess this falls (in part) into the tissue repair and maintenance category. CM professors along with subspecialty of internal medicine professors made me look at sleep as the place where we do our " heavy lifting " with regard to the parasympathetic systems of bodily maintenance, growth and repair. Daytime " good stress " like CM or joyful activities stimulate the night time changes. Bad stress like arguments, injury, worry and frustrating or laborious activities turn off the night time changes. Thanks again, Emmanuel Segmen Attilio, Emmanuel, This is the reason why in my treatment of " fibromyalgia " , poor sleep is the first sign I treat. Without good sleep there's no healing from chronic pain for the same reasons you've stated below. Regards, Fernando Chinese Medicine , " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote: > Attilio, > > This is great stuff. I've been more or less guiding my physiology students toward these considerations for 14 years. Especially significant is that no tissue repair and maintenance occurs in the absence of growth hormone. GH is only released during sleep. Also the second messenger hormones (somatomedins) of the liver do most of the work under GH stimulation. That means you can not be sleeping off a large dose of alcohol for sleep to be restorative. This is part of a large subtext of my year long anatomy/physiology course at Merritt College. Other parts of the subtext include " good stress " versus " bad stress " . That takes a long essay to explain. An important detail is that memory studies show that long term memory requires " consolidation " which only happens during sleep. > > In gratitude, > Emmanuel Segmen > Merritt College > > - > > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:27 PM > Quality sleep 'rescues memories' > > > Taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3175088.stm > > Even facts " forgotten " by people during a busy day may be retrieved > if this is followed by a good night's sleep. > Researchers from the University of Chicago asked volunteers to > remember simple words. > > Many found their memories letting them down towards the end of the > day, but the following morning, those who had slept well could > recall much more. > > Researchers, writing in the journal Nature, said the brain > could " rescue " lost memories during the night. > > When the brain is first asked to remember something, that memory is > laid down in an " unstable " state, meaning that it is possible that > it could be lost. > > At some point, the brain consolidates those it deems important into > a " stable " , more permanent state. > > However, the Chicago researchers suggested that it was possible for > a " stable " memory to be made " unstable " again - simply by the act of > recalling it. > > This would mean that memories could be modified then filed away > again in the face of new experiences. > > Speech test > > The 12 volunteers tested in the experiment were played words created > through a speech synthesizer which were purposely difficult to > understand. > > Initially, the written version of the word was available, but > afterwards the volunteers were asked to identify the word from the > audio version only. > > Tests revealed that the ability to recall the right word tended to > tail off as the day ended. > > However, when the volunteers were retested after a good night's > sleep, they were able to recall some words that they had " forgotten " > the previous evening. > > Dr Daniel Margoliash, one of the study authors, said: " Sleep > consolidates memories, protecting them against subsequent > interference or decay. > > " Sleep also appears to 'recover' or restore memories. " > > He said: " If performance is reduced by decay, sleep might actively > recover what has been lost. " > > Mental pruning > > Dr Karim Nader, from the Department of Psychology in McGill > University in Montreal, said: " Memory research is undergoing a > transformation - no longer is memory thought to be a hard-wiring of > the brain, instead it seems to be a process of storage and re- > storage. > > " Sleep helps some memories 'mature' and also prunes out unimportant > memories. " > > > Good point about the Shen. Any comments? > > Attilio > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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