Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Dear Hugo. Your letter caused many quetions. Where have you learned this? My only reference is the book " The Tao of exology, the book of infinite wisdom " by Dr. Stephen T. Chang Is Dr. Stephen Chang wrong? He means the semen stays in the prostate for a few minutes and that it then is reabsorbed. He wrote that it is a waste if it goes to the bladder. Ant then Why wait 8 hours? What happen then if the semen stay in the prostate? why not do it again? It feels great. And can I do it if I . " know what I am doing " as you write? Hold it in? When it comes (or goes) is it possible to hold it back??? Curious sex-wired male Holger ---------- > Från: Chinese Medicine > Svara till: Chinese Medicine > Datum: 7 Oct 2003 14:59:22 -0000 > Till: Chinese Medicine > Ämne: Digest Number 228 > > RE: prostate, injaculation question > > Hi all/... > I will give some of that info here with a warning, > primarily to any who may not be CM professionals - > don't do this unless you kno what you're doing. > The basic technique is simple, pressure is applied > through CV1 with three fingers to seal off the urethra > just prior to contractions. The feeling should be > comfortable, if not, you are too close to the scrotum > o the anus. The resultant feeling of the ejaculation > should be EXACTLY THE SAME (except that nothing comes > out). If it is not, you may be subconsciously 'holding > it in'. One does not want to hold it in, because if > one does that, one seals the neck of the urethra at > the bladder, thereby forcing the ejaculate into the > prostate. If this happens, a fullness can be felt > inside (stagnation). Don't worry about it, but don't > do it again. > So remember, don't hold it in, even though we don't > want anything to leave the body. We _do_ want the > semen to leave the testicles, we _do_ want the rest of > the ejaculate to leave the prostate. We want all the > ejaculate to leave their origin and go to the bladder. > So stay relaxed, ejaculate normally, enjoy, and leave > the prostate alone! > Once this process is completed, don't urinate for at > least 30 minutes. It'd be better if you don't urinate > for 8 hours. > Don't do this whole process unless you have a strong > erection and a strong desire to ejaculate. Strong > erection equals good length, good heat, good girth and > good hardness. These are also good measures for kidney > and liver function. Strong desire (if you DON'T have > yin deficiency/hollow heat!!) means that your body is > strong enough and has built up maximum capacity, and > that it going to unload anyway (possibly during > sleep). > >> Specific technique description would be a help, >> particularly so for those >> individuals who are low on Ki essence and who need >> to conserve jing and who >> at the same time have instincts / urges / conjugal >> expectations that require >> them to engage in sexual activity. > > Maybe Ken could come up with a plan for the flowery > battlefield here eh? > > Bye for now, > Hugo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Hi Holger, I don't thinkI've replied to htis yet, sorry. --- Holger Wendt <holger.wendt wrote: > Dear Hugo. Your letter caused many quetions. Where > have you learned this? From teachers. > Is Dr. Stephen Chang wrong? I wouldn't say yes or no. Fortunately or unfortunately, ther eis a _lot_ of 'open-door', 'closed-door' knowledge in CM, Qi Gong, and the martial arts. That means secrets, and don't give the real knowledge out, or thebest knowledge either. Then again, this can go back to a point I made just now with Sammy... these systems are holistic, and if practiced completely, they work fine. If mixed together ina jumble, or practiced incompletely they can easily lead to problems. Maybe some systems are better than others. Maybe we don't realsie that there is a pattern differentiationt hat needs to be carried out before we choose (or our teacher chooses) a system for us. > He means the semen > stays in the prostate for a > few minutes and that it then is reabsorbed. He wrote > that it is a waste if > it goes to the bladder. Well, with that point he is either misinformed, operating solely on theory or something else like that. If it were a waste, I wouldn't get results. Improved memory + concentration, no loss of energy like I would experience with a regular emission. The differences are dramatic. > Ant then Why wait 8 hours? Same reason we don't eat and then purge. We have to give the body time to absorb the essence. > What happen then if the semen stay in the prostate? On that side of the question, I know that it is easier to creat stagnation with that method. That method is therefore coupled with exercises to remove stagnation. Beyond that, I don't know very much. > why not do it again? It feels great. What I mean is that if you flood the prostate once, and you're following the system I am describing, you shouldn't do it again, because in the system I am describing we do not flood the prostate. > And can I do it if I . " know what I am doing " as you > write? Maybe. Some methods _are_ riskier than others. But who knows, they might reap greater rewards. Like kundalini. Powerful awakening potential, but you can go crazy or spontaneously combust. My main advice is always to step yourself int he culture, meet a lot of people, when you are ready, you'll find a teacher. Develop that relationship and go from there. And don't do these practices onyour own. That's my recommendation. > Hold it in? When it comes (or goes) is it possible > to hold it back??? Yes. Bye for now, Hugo ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://mail.messenger..co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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