Herbs, AP & Homeopathy in infections / acute pain?

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Hi Z'ev, Holger & All,

 

Ze'v wrote:

> I've been evangelizing for at least twenty years with patients,

> family, students and anyone else to avoid antibiotic treatment

> except when absolutely necessary, and foods that may contain

> antibiotics, such as non-organic animal products. I think this

> crisis is one of the places where Chinese medicine has to step up

> to the plate. We need to stop being so apologetic and complacent,

> and start telling people how effective Chinese medicine can be for

> infectious diseases. We also need to start training more students

> in the theory and prescriptions of Wen Bing/Warm Disease. Just the

> knee-jerk reaction of modern medicine treating viral infections

> with antibiotics, and the use of 'prophylactic' antibiotics has

> damaged the immunity of millions of people in America alone. One

> way to avoid the crisis of which you speak, Attilio, is herbal

> medicine, homeopathy and acupuncture. Z'ev

 

Holger replied:

> Ze'v at al, Then that is a possible light future in the probable dark

> future Let's invest our energy into the light one.

 

My first (1980) review of AP in immunomediated diseases stressed

the TCM concept that ADAPTATION to change [internal & external]

is the key to survival, and that optimising our natural defences /

resistance is the key to living in harmony with the myriads of

bacteria, viruses, parasites, etc that were here before us, and wil

be here long after we will be dust.

 

I still believe that, but I see great problems in implementing these

concepts: (a) in human life/medicine, and (b) in vet med & farming

practices.

 

(a) We still need western drugs, antibiotics & painkillers etc for

certain human infections/inflammations [and especially the pain or

other suffering associated with them]. In my own experience, some

of these conditions do not respond fast enough to holistic therapy.

 

For example acute dental/gum pain with a root abscess, or an

acute [sterile] orchitis with desperate pain & swelling [as can arise

after a bout of severe coughing with urinary back-pressure] simply

do not respond fast enough to AP.

 

(b) Whether we like it or not, modern farming is a profit-based

business. The bottom line [for farmers] is the net profit from the

enterprise. Net profit is calculated as net value of sales [in $] minus

net value of inputs. Input costs include vet meds and other routine

medications.

 

Farmers do not part with money to vets easily! Any treatments that

require repeat visits are unlikely to be adopted widely. For

example, it is possible to treat bacterial mastitis in cows with AP,

but the success rate is probably lower, and the cost [involving

several repeat visits] much higher than treatment with an

intramammary antibiotic.

 

Similarly, changes in grazing practices and cattle management

could reduce the need for use of toxic anthelmintics [such as the

organophosphate drugs], but the extra labour, time and

management skills involved in the former make routine use of

anthelmintics more attractive to farmers.

 

IMO, organic farming is an ideal that will probably NOT be attained

in mainstream farming. Animal [and crop] productivity falls and

premiums to offset the productivity drop are not guaranteed.

 

For example, when Danish dairy farmers first sold organic milk,

they had a 20-30% premium on their milk price to offset the 20-

30% drop in production. Later, however, as the SUPPLY of organic

milk on the Danish market increased, the premium quickly

disappeared. The outcome was that organic farmers are now at a

net LOSS relative to what they could make in intensive [drug-

based] farming.

 

In summary, I agree that we need to educate the public to the

benefits of herbs, AP & Homeopathy in preventing and controlling

infections. But first we need to:

 

(1) Define the short list of specific infectious conditions that

respond RAPIDLY and RELIABLY to holistic treatments, and

 

(2) We need to define the short-list of dietary and other life-

practices and specific holistic remedies to match those conditions.

 

KNOWING that TCM practitioners do not like to prescribe herbs

just on the basis of Western Dx, would experts on the Lists care to

nominate specific [western Dxed] conditions and their reliable

remedies to the short-lists?

 

Are there any brave hearts out there who use CHM, AP or

homeopathy as FIRST-line therapy in, say an acute molar root-

abscess, or an acute [sterile] orchitis resulting from cough?

 

 

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Are there any brave hearts out there who use CHM, AP or

homeopathy as FIRST-line therapy in, say an acute molar root-

abscess,

 

I did twice with AP.... impotently ...

now I do it still but that if it doesn't work in half an hour, of they go to

the dentist.

 

maybe as you suggest ap is not efficient enough in this case.

 

Holger