Metallic circuits (watch-strap/neck-chain) and Arm Lifting Strength

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Hi All, & Hi Anand & Holger,

 

Anand wrote:

> hi holger, Someone showed me that when one wears a battery watch on

> left hand & tests for strength we are very weak. The same on right

> hand is not. reason apparently - the energy flows up the left hand.

> the watch blocks it. while its flowing out of right hand & there is

> no loss. hence this observation as i was explained. try this. it

> only happens with a battery powered watch. not with other watches.

> you may hold any electrical gadget in your hand working & it will

> cause same problem. what is your observation re: such occurences &

> the meaning behind it. anand

 

I have a battery-watch that my wife, Mena, gave me as a present

some years ago. It is a beautiful instrument with a very fine metallic

bracelet. I also have a fine gold neck-chain that I bought in Taiwan

about 12 years ago. More about that anon.

 

Anand’s note prompted me to experiment to see if wearing the

watch affects my arm strength. The results astonished me, as did

the results with the gold neck-chain.

 

Anand, I could not confirm the difference in wearing a watch on the

left or right wrist, but found something much more important! See

below!

 

EXPERIMENT 1:

I placed a household weighing-scales [range 0-xx stones; 1 stone

= 14 lbs] under a table-top so that I could see the dial from above.

 

1. With my watch REMOVED, I measured the maximum

upwards force that I could apply to the bottom of the

scales with (a) the left hand and (b) the right hand.

2. Then, with the watch on my LEFT wrist, I repeated the

measurements.

3. Then, with the watch on my RIGHT wrist, I repeated the

measurements.

4. Finally, with the watch REMOVED, I repeated the

measurements again [in case that tiredness might have

reduced my ability to apply the upward force in

measurements 2 and 3.

 

RESULTS [each measure was the mean of 2 attempts]:

 

L Lift R Lift Difference (L-R)

Watch on L wrist 6.70 5.70 1.00

Watch on R wrist 6.80 5.80 1.00

MEAN with watch on either wrist 6.75 5.75 1.00

 

Note that my MEAN RIGHT lift power (mean 5.75 stones) was 1

stone LESS than my LEFT lift power (6.75 stones). That is unusual

because I am right-handed. However, I have “tennis elbow” on the

right for some time. This has reduced the strength of my right arm,

and my grip - my hand-shake is not as strong as it used to be).

 

Having the watch on the left or right wrist did NOT influence the

right v left lift difference; the left lift was 1 stone better than the

right, irrespective of on which wrist the watch was.

 

However, having the watch on EITHER wrist had a very significant

negative effect on lift strength!:

L Lift R Lift MEAN Lift Difference (L-R)

1 Watch removed* 7.50 5.90 6.70 1.60

2 Watch on either wrist 6.75 5.75 6.25 1.00

3 Difference (1-2) 0.75 0.15 0.45 0.60

* each measure was the mean of 4 attempts, 2 before and 2 after

measurements with the watch on.

 

Wearing the watch reduced my overall MEAN arm lift by 0.45

stones. It also weakened the lift of the STRONGER arm (left) by

0.75 stones but had less effect (weaker by 0.15 stones) on the

weaker arm (right). Overall, wearing the watch increased the L-R

difference by 0.6 stones.

 

EXPERIMENT 2

About 1 hour later, as an after-thought, I repeated measurements of

arm strength [downward force and upward lifts of right and left arm].

This time, I tested arm strength:

(a) with the watch off, versus

(b) with the watch in my pocket, versus

© wearing the watch suspended from my gold neck-chain.

 

RESULTS [each measure was the mean of 4 attempts]:

L Lift

R Lift MEAN

1 Watch off* 6.63 5.63

6.13

2 Watch in pocket 6.60 5.90

6.25

3 MEAN of 1 and 2 [Watch not touching body] 6.61 5.76 6.19

4 Watch on gold neck-chain 5.80 5.60 5.70

5 Difference (3-4) 0.81 0.16

0.49

* measurements done before and after the measurements 2 and 4.

 

Having the watch in my pocket was not significantly different from

having it nearby on the table. However, having the watch touching

my neck (on the gold chain) very significantly reduced MEAN arm

lift + thrust strength (by 0.49 stones). This is similar to the effect of

wearing the watch in EXPERIMENT 1 (0.45 stones). Also, as in

EXPERIMENT 1, the effect, was most marked on the stronger (left)

arm.

 

At this point, I decided that Andy Roesti is correct! Many years

ago, Andy advised me not to wear a watch with a metallic strap. I

understood him to mean that a continuous metallic strap around

the arm could short-circuit the Arm Channels and thereby weaken

the body. Anand, maybe it is not the watch BATTERY that is the

problem, but the metallic bracelet?

 

Then another thought struck me. If a METALLIC WRIST bracelet

can reduce one’s strength, could a METALLIC NECK chain do so

also? After all, the neck is the thoroughfare for ALL of the YANG

Channels plus GV and CV. So I decided to do another experiment.

 

EXPERIMENT 3

I took my watch off and left it on the table. Then I repeated

measurements of arm strength [downward force and upward lifts of

the right and left arm] with my gold neck-chain (a) off, versus (b) on

my neck.

 

RESULTS [each measure was the mean of 4 attempts]:

L Lift R Lift MEAN

1 Neck-chain on the table 7.00 6.85 6.93

2 Neck-chain on my neck 6.25 5.75 6.00

3 Difference (1-2) 0.75 1.10 0.93

 

Wearing the neck-chain reduced my MEAN arm strength by 0.93

stones! This is even a greater effect than the watch-bracelet effect

(arm strength reduced by 0.45 to 0.49 stones – Experiments 1 and

2)!

 

With the watch off, and the neck-chain off, the L-R difference in

arm strength disappeared (L=7.00, R=6.85 stones)!

 

With the watch off and the neck-chain on, the L-R difference in

arm strength decreased to 0.50 stones (as compared with 1 stone

or more in EXPERIMENTS 1 and 2)!

 

These results astonished me. I would not have believed them until I

did the experiments. I hope to repeat them in a few days to

recheck the results. Meanwhile, as a result of the foregoing, I have

decided to keep my watch and gold neck-chain in my pocket. I

need the chain for dowsing in difficult diagnostic cases!

 

I invite those of you who may have a weighing scales to repeat

these experiments and report back to the List! Now, Anand, look

what you started!

 

If it is true that wearing metallic wrist- bracelets and neck-chains

(and ankle-chains??) reduce one’s strength, the implications for our

patients (and the fashion industry!) are huge.

 

PS. It is circa 1 hour since I took off my chain and watch. In that

short time, there is a noticible ease in my tennis-elbow pain and a

great increase in the grip strength of my right hand!

 

Hugs to you all,

Phil

Best regards,

 

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Hi All, & Hi Are,

 

Are wrote:

> Dear All and dear Phil, I agree with Phil; metal around the body is

> not good!! This is also known in Norway. Here many wear woolen

> threads around the wrist instead of metal, and this strenghten the

> lift power.

 

My understanding it that metallic chains/bracelets, encircling a

limb or the neck, cause a " short-circuit " of the Channels passing

through that area.

 

SHORT-TERM short-circuits are probably harmless; in fact they

may be beneficial. For example, one usually feels very good after a

shower, bath, swim, or strenuous exercise. The water medium, or

secreted sweat in those cases automatically short-circuits all

Channels for a short time, yet one feels energised!

 

IMO, CHRONIC short circuits, BETWEEN PHASES are more

important than short-circuits WITHIN a PHASE. This is because

each Phase is naturally linked in the Qi Flow circuit.

 

Wrist bracelets/chains may short-circuit Metal (LU-LI) and Fire (HT-

SI-PC-TH) on the arm.

 

Leg chains/bracelets may short-circuit Earth (SP-ST), Wood (LV-

GB) and Water (BL-KI) on the ankle.

 

But NECK chains pose the biggest problem! They can short-circuit

ALL elements (LI-Metal, ST-Earth, SI-TH-Fire, BL-Water, GB-Earth)

and with GV and CV on the neck.

 

Wearing a ring on finger 1, 4 or 5 finger is probably harmless, as it

can short-circuit only WITHIN the same phase [thumb in Metal; 4th

and 5th finger in Fire].

 

However, a ring on the 2nd or 3rd finger can short-circuit between

Metal (LI, on finger 2) and Fire (PC, on finger 3).

 

Also, wearing a ring on the big toe [rare but it happens] can short-

circuit Earth and Wood (SP-LV-ST).

 

All the above is theory, merely rhetorical questioning. But my gut

feels that the concept is important, especially for people whose

Qi/energies/Xue and defences may be " under pressure " from other

factors (genetic susceptibility, stress, food intolerance, EPFs, etc).

 

Are again:

> Maybe a woolen thread will make good for the metal one, so that the

> result will be zero; maybe not. Are

 

THIS is an interesting question! Can one wear a metal watch on the

wrist if ine uses a woollen strap (or other insulator) to hold the

watch in place?

 

It would be a very simple question to examine using the protocol

that I described yeaterday! I have checked it out just now.

 

I was NOT wearing my neck-chain. (I have decided to leave that off!)

 

For the neck-contact, I balanced the watch on the upper edge of

my vest, so that its metal bracelet touched my neck/sternal area

near CV22.

 

Using the weighing scales, as described yesterday, I measured L

and R arm strength by one lift and one downward push each with:

 

1: Watch on the table nearby

2: Watch on L wrist

3. Watch selo-taped on L wrist with only the metal face (not

bracelet) touching skin

4. Watch-bracelet touching skin of sternal area (suspended on the

neck of my vest)

5. Watch on the table nearby

6. Watch in L pocket

 

Measures (1) and (6) were combined for the “On Table” row.

Measure (6) was not significantly different from “On Table” values.

Therefore, the “In Pocket” and “On Table” means were combined as

“MEAN not touching body”.

 

RESULTS

Watch L Power R Power Mean Diff (L-R)

On Table* 6.45 6.33 6.39 0.12

In L Pocket 6.65 6.40 6.53 0.25

MEAN (not touching) 6.55 6.36 6.46 0.19

 

Mean Effect*

On L wrist 6.05 5.65 5.85 0.40 0.61

Taped on L wrist 5.00 4.35 4.68 0.65 1.78

Touching sternal area 5.30 5.65 5.48 -0.35 0.98

MEAN (touching body) 5.45 5.22 5.33 0.23 1.12

 

*(not touching - touching)

 

The mean arm strength with metal not touching the body was 6.46

stones, and the L-R difference (0.19 stone – much better than

yesterday) was of little significance. With the metal watch/bracelet

touching the wrist or sternal area, the mean arm strength and L-R

differences were 5.33 and 0.23 stones, respectively. Therefore,

OVERALL, the effect of the metal touching the wrist or sternal area

(versus not touching the body) was to decrease mean arm strength

by 1.12 stones, but touching v not touching had little effect on the L-

R difference. The latter is in contrast to yesterday's result, but in

the meantime (with chain & watch off), my right arm has become

stronger relative to my left overnight.

 

The watch on L wrist, whether in normal position (bracelet around

wrist), or just taped on, markedly decreased mean arm power (by

0.61 and 1.78 stones, respectively). If anything, the watch taped to

the wrist was worse than the bracelet in the usual position! Also,

the watch touching the wrist exaggerated the L-R difference in

strength, weakening especially the stronger (left) arm.

 

The watch-bracelet touching the sternum reduced mean arm

strength by 0.98 stones but had a paradoxical effect on the L-R

difference; it was the only case where the “weaker” ® arm

strength exceeded the “weaker” (L) arm strength.

 

 

CONCLUSION

1. Metal (watch and/or bracelet) touching skin at the wrist or

sternal area markedly reduced mean arm strength, as also

described yesterday.

 

2. Using selo-tape to keep the watch in contact with the wrist did

not abolish the effect.

 

3. Metal (watch and/or bracelet) touching skin had no significant

effect on L-R difference. Inclusion of the neck data with the wrist-

contact data was the reason for the disappearance of the L-R effect

of contact v no contact.

 

Is selotape an insulator? If not, could one of you repeat the test

with a woollen strap or band, as Are mentioned?

 

Have any of you checked if YOUR metal bracelet/neck-chain

weakens YOUR arm strength? For the sake of your own health, do

it!

 

Best regards,

 

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Nice bit of work Roger.

 

An experience of mine last year seems to confirm the ideas you put forward.

It happened like this: I was re-starting my training and had to watch out

for heart rate when I was doing CV exercise and weights. If my heart rate

went up over 140 BPM's for too long then I would get nasty palpitations at

night keeping me awake. I got a telemetry chest band and wrist pick-up from

Argos to monitor heart rate. When I wore the unit running I felt strangely

weak but didn't make the association. The first unit lasted one week before

it stopped working. I returned it thinking the battery must be dodgy. This

carried on five (5) time over the next fortnight until I finally gave up

with telemetry heart monitoring and just used my finger to monitor pulse

rate. I quickly got my HR up to my age related max without problems after

that. Could my bio-electric energuy have scrambled the electronics ? I think

so. Since then I have heard of other cases where use of telemetry heart

monitors has actually led to cardiac arrythmias.

 

That is when I really discovered what the different pulses were all about -

before and after exercise. Second to that I realised the digital watch on my

left arm gave a sensation of weakness. So now I wear an old fashioned

wind-up watch. [ Not many of them left about these days. I get on much

better with the wind-up watch even if it does have a metal backing. I also

wear a copper bracelet at times to ease wrist pain / carpal weakness which I

have had intermittently for about 20 years. Just wondering what the purpose

of those Celtic neck bracelets was for ? Unless completely ceremonial and

designed to 'space - out ' the wearer before some kind of ritual ?? ]

 

Just another point. I started visualising Qi flowing through me about a year

ago when lifting weights in the gym. It helps to relax and focus for sure.

Standing in front of the lat pull machine I imagine Qi flowing up through

'bubbling spring' (K1 I think) and out the top of my head. At the same time

I imagine 'heavenly Qi' flowing the opposite direction. My weights have

increased 10-20% since then so now I can do a 100kg set on the lat pull and

bench press whereas as year ago I could manage 80-90 kg. Call it natural

progression if you like but after a six month break that is pretty good

going. " Where the mind goes Qi will follow " isn't that an old TCM saying ?

I'd like to learn more about Qi Gong for sure.

 

Cheers,

 

Sammy.

 

 

[]

25 September 2003 03:10

lIKEMLIST ;

traditional_Chinese_Medicine

Re: Metallic circuits (watch-strap/neck-chain) and Arm

Lifting Strength

 

 

Hi All, & Hi Are,

 

Are wrote:

> Dear All and dear Phil, I agree with Phil; metal around the body is

> not good!! This is also known in Norway. Here many wear woolen

> threads around the wrist instead of metal, and this strenghten the

> lift power.

 

My understanding it that metallic chains/bracelets, encircling a

limb or the neck, cause a " short-circuit " of the Channels passing

through that area.

 

SHORT-TERM short-circuits are probably harmless; in fact they

may be beneficial. For example, one usually feels very good after a

shower, bath, swim, or strenuous exercise. The water medium, or

secreted sweat in those cases automatically short-circuits all

Channels for a short time, yet one feels energised!

 

IMO, CHRONIC short circuits, BETWEEN PHASES are more

important than short-circuits WITHIN a PHASE. This is because

each Phase is naturally linked in the Qi Flow circuit.

 

Wrist bracelets/chains may short-circuit Metal (LU-LI) and Fire (HT-

SI-PC-TH) on the arm.

 

Leg chains/bracelets may short-circuit Earth (SP-ST), Wood (LV-

GB) and Water (BL-KI) on the ankle.

 

But NECK chains pose the biggest problem! They can short-circuit

ALL elements (LI-Metal, ST-Earth, SI-TH-Fire, BL-Water, GB-Earth)

and with GV and CV on the neck.

 

Wearing a ring on finger 1, 4 or 5 finger is probably harmless, as it

can short-circuit only WITHIN the same phase [thumb in Metal; 4th

and 5th finger in Fire].

 

However, a ring on the 2nd or 3rd finger can short-circuit between

Metal (LI, on finger 2) and Fire (PC, on finger 3).

 

Also, wearing a ring on the big toe [rare but it happens] can short-

circuit Earth and Wood (SP-LV-ST).

 

All the above is theory, merely rhetorical questioning. But my gut

feels that the concept is important, especially for people whose

Qi/energies/Xue and defences may be " under pressure " from other

factors (genetic susceptibility, stress, food intolerance, EPFs, etc).

 

Are again:

> Maybe a woolen thread will make good for the metal one, so that the

> result will be zero; maybe not. Are

 

THIS is an interesting question! Can one wear a metal watch on the

wrist if ine uses a woollen strap (or other insulator) to hold the

watch in place?

 

It would be a very simple question to examine using the protocol

that I described yeaterday! I have checked it out just now.

 

I was NOT wearing my neck-chain. (I have decided to leave that off!)

 

For the neck-contact, I balanced the watch on the upper edge of

my vest, so that its metal bracelet touched my neck/sternal area

near CV22.

 

Using the weighing scales, as described yesterday, I measured L

and R arm strength by one lift and one downward push each with:

 

1: Watch on the table nearby

2: Watch on L wrist

3. Watch selo-taped on L wrist with only the metal face (not

bracelet) touching skin

4. Watch-bracelet touching skin of sternal area (suspended on the

neck of my vest)

5. Watch on the table nearby

6. Watch in L pocket

 

Measures (1) and (6) were combined for the “On Table” row.

Measure (6) was not significantly different from “On Table” values.

Therefore, the “In Pocket” and “On Table” means were combined as

“MEAN not touching body”.

 

RESULTS

Watch L Power R Power Mean Diff (L-R)

On Table* 6.45 6.33 6.39 0.12

In L Pocket 6.65 6.40 6.53 0.25

MEAN (not touching) 6.55 6.36 6.46 0.19

 

 

Mean Effect*

On L wrist 6.05 5.65 5.85 0.40 0.61

Taped on L wrist 5.00 4.35 4.68 0.65 1.78

Touching sternal area 5.30 5.65 5.48 -0.35 0.98

MEAN (touching body) 5.45 5.22 5.33 0.23 1.12

 

*(not touching - touching)

 

The mean arm strength with metal not touching the body was 6.46

stones, and the L-R difference (0.19 stone – much better than

yesterday) was of little significance. With the metal watch/bracelet

touching the wrist or sternal area, the mean arm strength and L-R

differences were 5.33 and 0.23 stones, respectively. Therefore,

OVERALL, the effect of the metal touching the wrist or sternal area

(versus not touching the body) was to decrease mean arm strength

by 1.12 stones, but touching v not touching had little effect on the L-

R difference. The latter is in contrast to yesterday's result, but in

the meantime (with chain & watch off), my right arm has become

stronger relative to my left overnight.

 

The watch on L wrist, whether in normal position (bracelet around

wrist), or just taped on, markedly decreased mean arm power (by

0.61 and 1.78 stones, respectively). If anything, the watch taped to

the wrist was worse than the bracelet in the usual position! Also,

the watch touching the wrist exaggerated the L-R difference in

strength, weakening especially the stronger (left) arm.

 

The watch-bracelet touching the sternum reduced mean arm

strength by 0.98 stones but had a paradoxical effect on the L-R

difference; it was the only case where the “weaker” ® arm

strength exceeded the “weaker” (L) arm strength.

 

 

CONCLUSION

1. Metal (watch and/or bracelet) touching skin at the wrist or

sternal area markedly reduced mean arm strength, as also

described yesterday.

 

2. Using selo-tape to keep the watch in contact with the wrist did

not abolish the effect.

 

3. Metal (watch and/or bracelet) touching skin had no significant

effect on L-R difference. Inclusion of the neck data with the wrist-

contact data was the reason for the disappearance of the L-R effect

of contact v no contact.

 

Is selotape an insulator? If not, could one of you repeat the test

with a woollen strap or band, as Are mentioned?

 

Have any of you checked if YOUR metal bracelet/neck-chain

weakens YOUR arm strength? For the sake of your own health, do

it!

 

Best regards,

Email: <

 

WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland

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[Guest guest]

The writings of John Ott provide in-depth reports of extensive studies he

did on these issues, using the muscle-testing techniques as well as more

" scientific " measuring instruments. He was also one of the first to

examine the effects of light at different spectra on living things. He

later developed the full-spectrum lights now in wide use. If you are

interested in these effects, his work is worth a look. The website

ott-lite.com only covers his lighting products, but his books " Health and

Light " and " Light, Radiation, and How to Stay Healthy " cover some of this

material and can be found through Amazon. I think most of his other,

earlier books are out of print and his muscle-testing articles would have

to be searched.

 

Pat

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Phil and all

 

I am just updating myself on the metal conversation

Impressed by your tests, Phil!

 

Phil your preliminary conclusion on rings may be a little to hasty

remember I work a lot with the hand and the fingers

In Korean Hand Acupuncture rings are used to tonify or sedate organs

And the micromeridians run on the fingers. so I sedate and tonify meridians

on the fingers with small metal pellets.

 

Ring and index fingers have the micromeridians corresponding to the body

meridians on the ARMS

Thumb and little finger have the micromeridians corresponding to the body

meridians on the LEGS

And 3d finger is all the meridians running up the neck to the head

 

Silver or white metal - sedating

Gold or yellow metall - tonifying

 

From an organ perspective:

1, Thumb - Liver

2, Indexfinger - Heart

3d finger - Spleen

4, Ringfinger - Lungs (really interesting as many in the christian/western

world puts a gold finger here)

5, little finger - Kidneys

 

(I have a tendency of an overactive liver and sometimes I feel very belanced

by putting a silver ring on the tumb, but during a limited amount of time)

 

Maybe you could make a similar test with rings Phil

And Yes I will do test like youv'e done.. very inspiring!

 

Holger

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I humbly suggest there are some flaws in the methodology here. Can you

find a way to test this with people who don't expect a specific outcome?

 

Karen

[Guest guest]

I have made similar tests on 3 persons with different outcomes that suggests

an individual response

Holger

[Guest guest]

Hi Holger & All,

 

> I have made similar tests on 3 persons with different outcomes that

> suggests an individual response Holger

 

Very interesting. Holger, could you summarise the outcomes in

each?

 

Individuality and individual responses to changes in internal and

external environment are probably the norm in complex biosystems.

 

Holger also wrote:

> Phil your preliminary conclusion on rings may be a little to hasty

> remember I work a lot with the hand and the fingers

 

Point taken! Fire [my primary Element] tends to move fast - and

then burn out. But my comments on rings were mere speculation,

without doing any tests. I will check it out sometime.

 

Many thanks,

Phil

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Holger added:

> In Korean Hand Acupuncture rings are used to tonify or sedate

> organs And the micromeridians run on the fingers. so I sedate and

> tonify meridians on the fingers with small metal pellets. Ring and

> index fingers have the micromeridians corresponding to the body

> meridians on the ARMS Thumb and little finger have the

> micromeridians corresponding to the body meridians on the LEGS And

> 3d finger is all the meridians running up the neck to the head.

> Silver or white metal - sedating Gold or yellow metall - tonifying

> From an organ perspective: 1, Thumb - Liver 2, Indexfinger -

> Heart 3d finger - Spleen 4, Ringfinger - Lungs (really

> interesting as many in the christian/western world puts a gold

> finger here) 5, little finger - Kidneys (I have a tendency of

> an overactive liver and sometimes I feel very belanced by putting

> a silver ring on the tumb, but during a limited amount of time).

> Maybe you could make a similar test with rings Phil And Yes I

> will do test like youv'e done.. very inspiring! Holger

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Best regards,

 

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03-09-29 14.31:

 

Hi Holger & All,

 

> I have made similar tests on 3 persons with different outcomes that

> suggests an individual response Holger

 

Very interesting. Holger, could you summarise the outcomes in

each?

--------------------

 

Phil, I did it very unscientifically with kinesology and just noticed that

the expected outcome was not met, in this case I expected the left arm to be

weaker with watch then right arm with watch.

 

One of my sons became actually stronger!

 

I will do some more scientific tests with figures and scales and things..

fun!

 

Holger

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

hi, i am not sure whether i made it clear. the facts

are as follows as i know it.

if one wears a watch(battery) on left hand then both

arms demonstrate weakness. if one wears it on right

hand then the arms are stronger.

so please check what you have observed.

my earlier question was what would be the rationale if

any from acupuncture/energy point of view.

i ahve been aware of these observations for a few

years now. but have not been able to put any logical

emaning/rationale to it.

people say that energy flows in from theleft arm up

into the body & then out from the right arm/hand.

this i have not found in any acupuncture literature.

wondered whether anyone has found that to be true.

hence the request for info.

thanks

anand

 

 

 

--- Holger Wendt <holger.wendt wrote: >

03-09-29 14.31:

>

> Hi Holger & All,

>

> > I have made similar tests on 3 persons with

> different outcomes that

> > suggests an individual response Holger

>

> Very interesting. Holger, could you summarise the

> outcomes in

> each?

> --------------------

>

> Phil, I did it very unscientifically with kinesology

> and just noticed that

> the expected outcome was not met, in this case I

> expected the left arm to be

> weaker with watch then right arm with watch.

>

> One of my sons became actually stronger!

>

> I will do some more scientific tests with figures

> and scales and things..

> fun!

>

> Holger

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

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Sports Injury Specialist

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Left right conversation

 

Read somewhere that the left side is conditioned during conception

and the right side conditioned during birth

which would be influenced by the weather at that moment:

that is:

if one is born in summer, the right side may have problems in the fire

organs/meridians, heart small intestine

and the left side may have problems in the metal (autumn) circuits, Lung

Large Intestine

 

Anyone knows more about this?

 

Holger

 

 

hi, i am not sure whether i made it clear. the facts

are as follows as i know it.

if one wears a watch(battery) on left hand then both

arms demonstrate weakness. if one wears it on right

hand then the arms are stronger.

so please check what you have observed.

my earlier question was what would be the rationale if

any from acupuncture/energy point of view.

i ahve been aware of these observations for a few

years now. but have not been able to put any logical

emaning/rationale to it.

people say that energy flows in from theleft arm up

into the body & then out from the right arm/hand.

this i have not found in any acupuncture literature.

wondered whether anyone has found that to be true.

hence the request for info.

thanks

anand

 

 

 

 

 

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On 30 Sep 2003, at 2:38, anand bapat wrote:

 

> hi, i am not sure whether i made it clear. the facts are as follows

> as i know it. if one wears a watch (battery) on left hand then both

> arms demonstrate weakness. if one wears it on right hand then the

> arms are stronger. so please check what you have observed.

 

Anand, I could not confirm the difference in wearing a watch on the

left or right wrist. I enclose the data from experiment 1 again:

 

EXPERIMENT 1:

I placed a household weighing-scales [range 0-20 stones; 1 stone

= 14 lbs] under a table-top so that I could see the dial from above.

 

1. With my watch REMOVED, I measured the maximum upwards

force [lift] that I could apply to the bottom of the scales with (a) the

left hand and (b) the right hand.

 

2. Then, with the watch on my LEFT wrist, I repeated the

measurements.

 

3. Then, with the watch on my RIGHT wrist, I repeated the

measurements.

 

4. Finally, with the watch REMOVED, I repeated the

measurements again [in case that tiredness might have reduced

my ability to apply the upward force in measurements 2 and 3.

 

RESULTS [each measure was the mean of 2 attempts]:

L Lift R Lift Difference (L-R)

Watch on L wrist 6.70 5.70 1.00

Watch on R wrist 6.80 5.80 1.00

MEAN with watch on either wrist 6.75 5.75 1.00

 

Note that my MEAN RIGHT lift power (mean 5.75 stones) was 1

stone LESS than my LEFT lift power (6.75 stones). That is unusual

because I am right-handed. However, I [had] “tennis elbow” on the

right for some time. This has reduced the strength of my right arm,

and my grip - my hand-shake is not as strong as it used to be).

 

Having the watch on the left or right wrist did NOT influence the

right v left lift difference; the left lift was 1 stone better than the

right, irrespective of on which wrist the watch was.

 

However, having the watch on EITHER wrist had a very significant

negative effect on lift strength!:

L Lift R Lift MEAN Lift Difference (L-R)

1 Watch removed* 7.50 5.90 6.70 1.60

2 Watch on either wrist 6.75 5.75 6.25 1.00

3 Difference (1-2) 0.75 0.15 0.45 0.60

* each measure was the mean of 4 attempts, 2 before and 2

after measurements with the watch on.

 

Wearing the watch [on L OR R wrist] reduced my overall MEAN

arm lift by 0.45 stones. It also weakened the lift of the STRONGER

arm (left) by 0.75 stones but had less effect (weaker by 0.15

stones) on the weaker arm (right). Overall, wearing the watch

increased the L-R difference by 0.6 stones.

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