Felix Mann's latest book states acupuncture to be largely an illusion

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Hi Sharon

 

> I suspect that we push what we believe in so as to stabilise our own

> minds. For I suspect it takes a great mind to be stable and at the

> same moment allow many realities to exist concurrently, without

> being washed away into some sea of oblivion or non-existence. Fear

> of annihilation may be a grand motivator for forming and making

> personal and cultural belief systems. Regards, Sharon

 

Sharon, these are extremely perceptive comments. My hat off to

you!

 

They could be shortened to " Live, and let live " - in ideas as well as

material life.

 

Not only may Points and Channels be illusions, but some

philosophers suggest that much of what we take as " reality " in life

is a grand illusion also.

 

That said, we ALL need " frames of reference " within which to think,

plan and act. Therefore, IMO, it is most useful to learn/teach the

classical points & channel system. As Richard has said, the

Channels [all, or only one continuous Channel?] are as REAL as

most other aspects of medicine. They are ery useful concepts, as

illustrated time and time again in clinical practice.

 

Without a Channel concept, how could one attempt to explain how

a keloid in the outer BL line could trigger multiple S & Ss involving SI-

BL-KI, as detailed by me in an earlier post? And how treating the

sensitive points on that keloid [plus a few sessions of

physio/massage of the sacr and the BL Channel] could wipe out

S & Ss that had existed for years?

 

I have great respect for Mann's contribution to the development of

medical AP in the west. But I see Mann, as I see myself, as one of

the Blind Men who bumped up against the sleeping elephant and

then tried to explain what they [we] had experienced.

 

PS: Without a Points & Channel [and Six-Level] Concept, how

could we attempt to explain how needlling near left LI11 could

possibly treat pain in the right ST35 area? How could needling

ST45 treat eyepain? How could needling LU08 [LU Yuan Point] +

LI06 [Passage Point of LU] help in chronic LU disease?

 

IMO, it behoves all of us who try to use AP to relieve pain or

suffering in humans or animals must learn the traditional [well tried]

concepts, and THEN develop our OWN ways of working, and buid

on our feedback [personal experiences] in using them.

 

IMO, it is a great mistake to become " locked into " an inflexible

system [traditional or otherwise], especially if we find that it does

not work in our own experience.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

Thank you for your compliment... in truth, I think I was inspired by the birth

of our first foal for the season. The little filly came in at 9.00am from a

maiden mare, and we were able to share her entire entry into the world. Just

such a miracle and a joy to watch.

Sharon

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Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:37 PM

Re: Felix Mann's latest book states acupuncture to be largely

an illusion

 

 

Hi All, & Hi Sharon

 

> I suspect that we push what we believe in so as to stabilise our own

> minds. For I suspect it takes a great mind to be stable and at the

> same moment allow many realities to exist concurrently, without

> being washed away into some sea of oblivion or non-existence. Fear

> of annihilation may be a grand motivator for forming and making

> personal and cultural belief systems. Regards, Sharon

 

Sharon, these are extremely perceptive comments. My hat off to

you!

 

They could be shortened to " Live, and let live " - in ideas as well as

material life.

 

Not only may Points and Channels be illusions, but some

philosophers suggest that much of what we take as " reality " in life

is a grand illusion also.

 

That said, we ALL need " frames of reference " within which to think,

plan and act. Therefore, IMO, it is most useful to learn/teach the

classical points & channel system. As Richard has said, the

Channels [all, or only one continuous Channel?] are as REAL as

most other aspects of medicine. They are ery useful concepts, as

illustrated time and time again in clinical practice.

 

Without a Channel concept, how could one attempt to explain how

a keloid in the outer BL line could trigger multiple S & Ss involving SI-

BL-KI, as detailed by me in an earlier post? And how treating the

sensitive points on that keloid [plus a few sessions of

physio/massage of the sacr and the BL Channel] could wipe out

S & Ss that had existed for years?

 

I have great respect for Mann's contribution to the development of

medical AP in the west. But I see Mann, as I see myself, as one of

the Blind Men who bumped up against the sleeping elephant and

then tried to explain what they [we] had experienced.

 

PS: Without a Points & Channel [and Six-Level] Concept, how

could we attempt to explain how needlling near left LI11 could

possibly treat pain in the right ST35 area? How could needling

ST45 treat eyepain? How could needling LU08 [LU Yuan Point] +

LI06 [Passage Point of LU] help in chronic LU disease?

 

IMO, it behoves all of us who try to use AP to relieve pain or

suffering in humans or animals must learn the traditional [well tried]

concepts, and THEN develop our OWN ways of working, and buid

on our feedback [personal experiences] in using them.

 

IMO, it is a great mistake to become " locked into " an inflexible

system [traditional or otherwise], especially if we find that it does

not work in our own experience.

 

 

Best regards,

 

WORK : Teagasc Staff Development Unit, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland

WWW :

Email: <

Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

 

HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm

Email: <

Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]