different doctors, different treatments

[Guest guest]

Hello there,

 

I'm a new member and just joined the group. I must admit I'm fairly

unexperienced with TCM and therefore have some questions.

 

I'm currently being treated by a chinese doctor in London. I've

compared his treatment with my mother's in Munich. My doctor here in

London disinfects the part of the skin where the needles is

inserted. My mothers doctor doesn't do this.

 

There is also a difference where they insert the needle. My mothers

doctor tries different spots to find the one which hurts most based

on the theory that this will help most. My London doctor doesn't

look for that " painful spot " .

 

What do you think about this?

 

delpino

[Guest guest]

...........

I've compared his treatment with my mother's in Munich. My doctor here in

London disinfects the part of the skin where the needles is

inserted. My mothers doctor doesn't do this.

...................

My mothers doctor tries different spots to find the one which hurts most

based

on the theory that this will help most. My London doctor doesn't look for

that " painful spot " . ........... What do you think about this?

 

delpino

 

 

Hi delpino!

 

Acupuncture is not just technique but also art. We are creative humans, not

machines.

That is; individual doctors do things in individual ways.

As your headline says: " different doctors, different treatments " . It will

never be exactly the same

If you've read some of the letters here you know there are therapists that

use " needles " that don't even penetrate the skin, even outside the clothes.

 

Desinfection is a chapter by it's own. I know acupuncturists that say " there

is no way for bacteria to enter the acupuncture site " from the skin. (Never

seen that proofed but during a period I did not care about desinfectants and

I never saw an infection caused by my needling). Some one take up this

question?

 

Many acupunturists desinfect by routine and security regulations in their

countries (including myself nowadays) . The usual desinfectants alcohol

often reduce the immunosystem at the skin level so it is a tricky thing.

There are desinfectants that don't damage the skin, i.e. stabilised oxygen.

It is actually a much better desinfectant to and does no harm to the skin.

IMO these kind of desinfectants should be used instead of alcohol.

 

Sore " points " or not.... why look for them when you know where they are

located anyway? Well sometimes the " points " are not located exactly where

they are supposed to be located. Or you do " trigger point " therapy, or

reflexpoints which has not the same approach as meridian points. There are

also other ways of finding the points. Feel the " depression " , feel the

" energy " and some doctors " see " the " points " ... or just " know " where they

are.

 

In contrast: I have seen not so experienced chinese doctors in chinese

hospitals put the needles completely wrong and pretending it was correct.

Their mentor doctors would , when noone waslooking, just remove the needle

and put it in the right place without mentioning it ( " The nobel art of

loosing face... " will take a long time to master in China)

 

The question is not how they do it, but if it works for you?

 

Regards

Holger Wendt, Sweden

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Many acupunturists desinfect by routine and security regulations in their

countries (including myself nowadays) . The usual desinfectants alcohol

often reduce the immunosystem at the skin level so it is a tricky thing.

There are desinfectants that don't damage the skin, i.e. stabilised oxygen.

It is actually a much better desinfectant to and does no harm to the skin.

IMO these kind of desinfectants should be used instead of alcohol.

>>>>Alcohol does not disinfect the skin and some think it can cause cancer.

Diabetics shoot them selves daily and most do not disinfect the skin. Even

though they are susceptible for infection. I almost never use alcohol if I need

to disinfect the skin I use a surgical scrub. Usually when i use large bore

needles into periosteum

Alon