Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 Hi Godfrey & Attilio Although it appears impossible that the fastest growing and largest US national AP/OM organization may not be able to reach across the waters and perform miracles.....yet there must be some value in having an organization such as AOMNC supporting those importants efforts and urgent issues. During or slightly after next week......all interested parties in the US will stand up and take notice of the class action anti-trust racketeering lawsuit by AOMNC against the primary reimbursement carriers. Many of the TCM Chinese elders in the US have been wanting to accomplish this for way too many years but not only did not know how to do it......and as importantly the situation needs certain karmic events to take place. It is time.....and that appears to be happening. Many see no reason why it cannot spread to UK or anywhere else in the world which is supposed to be civilized. I have no idea of the UK legal system nor the EUC harmonization efforts (other than Codex Allimentarius) but much of this covers the allopathic/drug company's attempts to wipe out natural medicine. People of Earth especially those involved with natural medicines NEED to join together to resist these attempts to take it away. If and when we stand together....they will not be able to accomplish their dirty deeds. Richard > > Hi Godfrey. > > Below is the message i posted on the 11th August 2003. Thanks for > the wonderful link, i've added it to the links section for future > use. > > 11th August 2003 message starts here: > > I posted last week a email i received from the British Acupuncture > Council on regulation in the UK. I replied as follows: > > Atti: Thank you for your email. I take it then that doctors and > nurses who have been on weekend courses will still be allowed to > practice acupuncture in their associated hospitals? > > The British Acupuncture Council replied today stating: > > The short answer to that question is yes, but the background is > rather more complex > > The Acupuncture Regulatory Working Group decided early in its > discussions that it would be impossible to aim for protection of > function as well as protection of title - dentists, for example, > have > both; no-one can even practice dentistry in any form unless they are > properly qualified and regsitered. Too many people use acupuncture > in > valid and important ways (drug detox, etc whose practice no > legislator would want to outlaw) for protection of function to be > sustainable. Protection of title is another matter and this is what > is being discussed for acupuncturists. > > With protection of title, the title 'acupuncturist' will only be > able to be used by practitioners who have achieved high educational > standards, whether these be traditional acupuncturists, medical > acupuncturists or physiotherapists. Anyone else who uses acupuncture > will be subject to the rules of the regulating body under which they > fall, but will not be able to call themselves acupuncturists. The > standards which they will have to attain will be monitored by the > regulatory body in conjunction with the new Acupuncture Council. > > The experience of the osteopaths has been that the advent of > statutory regulation has meant that people have more often than not > chosen to go to a registered professional than someone who uses it > as > an adjunctive technique. > > Many BAcC practitioners feel uncomfortable with the fact that in the > short term there will be many people offering acupuncture as an > adjunct whose standards fall short of a professional acupuncturist, > but the BAcC's preferred strategy is to emphasise its members > strengths rather than attack other people's weaknesses, especially > since many BAcC members aspire to working alongside orthodox health > professionals in the NHS. > > Atti: i fear the worst for TCM in the UK. As you may know, the vast > majority of healthcare is available free on the National Health > Service (NHS). If doctors and nurses are allowed to continue giving > acupuncture to patients after attending a weekend course, this could > signal the dead nail for TCM in the UK. Why go and see a > acupuncturist in your local high street when you can get it for free > on the NHS. Even now, hospital pain clinics are administered > by 'real' qualified acupuncturist but don't get paid! > > These are worrying times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 of course it can spread from US. just think of may 1st, workers international day 400.000 workers demonstrated on may 1st 1886 for the 8-hour work day, in US Yes we need to stand together H Från: acudoc11 Svara till: Chinese Medicine Datum: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 15:44:11 EDT Till: Chinese Medicine Ämne: Re: Re: Regulation of acupuncture in the UK - there are competing prop... Hi Godfrey & Attilio Although it appears impossible that the fastest growing and largest US national AP/OM organization may not be able to reach across the waters and perform miracles.....yet there must be some value in having an organization such as AOMNC supporting those importants efforts and urgent issues. During or slightly after next week......all interested parties in the US will stand up and take notice of the class action anti-trust racketeering lawsuit by AOMNC against the primary reimbursement carriers. Many of the TCM Chinese elders in the US have been wanting to accomplish this for way too many years but not only did not know how to do it......and as importantly the situation needs certain karmic events to take place. It is time.....and that appears to be happening. Many see no reason why it cannot spread to UK or anywhere else in the world which is supposed to be civilized. I have no idea of the UK legal system nor the EUC harmonization efforts (other than Codex Allimentarius) but much of this covers the allopathic/drug company's attempts to wipe out natural medicine. People of Earth especially those involved with natural medicines NEED to join together to resist these attempts to take it away. If and when we stand together....they will not be able to accomplish their dirty deeds. Richard > > Hi Godfrey. > > Below is the message i posted on the 11th August 2003. Thanks for > the wonderful link, i've added it to the links section for future > use. > > 11th August 2003 message starts here: > > I posted last week a email i received from the British Acupuncture > Council on regulation in the UK. I replied as follows: > > Atti: Thank you for your email. I take it then that doctors and > nurses who have been on weekend courses will still be allowed to > practice acupuncture in their associated hospitals? > > The British Acupuncture Council replied today stating: > > The short answer to that question is yes, but the background is > rather more complex > > The Acupuncture Regulatory Working Group decided early in its > discussions that it would be impossible to aim for protection of > function as well as protection of title - dentists, for example, > have > both; no-one can even practice dentistry in any form unless they are > properly qualified and regsitered. Too many people use acupuncture > in > valid and important ways (drug detox, etc whose practice no > legislator would want to outlaw) for protection of function to be > sustainable. Protection of title is another matter and this is what > is being discussed for acupuncturists. > > With protection of title, the title 'acupuncturist' will only be > able to be used by practitioners who have achieved high educational > standards, whether these be traditional acupuncturists, medical > acupuncturists or physiotherapists. Anyone else who uses acupuncture > will be subject to the rules of the regulating body under which they > fall, but will not be able to call themselves acupuncturists. The > standards which they will have to attain will be monitored by the > regulatory body in conjunction with the new Acupuncture Council. > > The experience of the osteopaths has been that the advent of > statutory regulation has meant that people have more often than not > chosen to go to a registered professional than someone who uses it > as > an adjunctive technique. > > Many BAcC practitioners feel uncomfortable with the fact that in the > short term there will be many people offering acupuncture as an > adjunct whose standards fall short of a professional acupuncturist, > but the BAcC's preferred strategy is to emphasise its members > strengths rather than attack other people's weaknesses, especially > since many BAcC members aspire to working alongside orthodox health > professionals in the NHS. > > Atti: i fear the worst for TCM in the UK. As you may know, the vast > majority of healthcare is available free on the National Health > Service (NHS). If doctors and nurses are allowed to continue giving > acupuncture to patients after attending a weekend course, this could > signal the dead nail for TCM in the UK. Why go and see a > acupuncturist in your local high street when you can get it for free > on the NHS. Even now, hospital pain clinics are administered > by 'real' qualified acupuncturist but don't get paid! > > These are worrying times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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