Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Hi Richard > Obviously it isn't appreciated or understood here. > I will spend my time elsewhere. > > Bye bye, > Richard I don't feel at all that your viewpoint or effort isn't understood or appriciated on this list. I, for one, do appreciate your efforts (though they don't concern my country, I appreciate the fight for a good cause) because I can sense a 'danger' lurking for OM in the USA. I admire the strength you show in fighting the established system. I can get very angry when I read about the things the medical establishment does and how TCM sometimes seems to be diverted away from its roots. There isn't much explicit applause for your efforts but I sense that many people on this list share your viewpoints and appreciate and support your effort. I hope you will accept this token of support and reconsider. Alwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 I totally support Richard's views and actions against the establishment and have even asked him to sort out the Uk's regulation problems. I feel that a large majority of members and in support of his actions and therefore i can't understand why he would want to abandon us and the group. Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Alwin van Egmond " <@v...> wrote: > Hi Richard > > > Obviously it isn't appreciated or understood here. > > I will spend my time elsewhere. > > > > Bye bye, > > Richard > > I don't feel at all that your viewpoint or effort isn't understood or > appriciated on this list. I, for one, do appreciate your efforts > (though they don't concern my country, I appreciate the fight for a > good cause) because I can sense a 'danger' lurking for OM in the USA. > > I admire the strength you show in fighting the established system. I > can get very angry when I read about the things the medical > establishment does and how TCM sometimes seems to be diverted away > from its roots. > > There isn't much explicit applause for your efforts but I sense that > many people on this list share your viewpoints and appreciate and > support your effort. > > I hope you will accept this token of support and reconsider. > > Alwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Sorry for the confusion....I didn;t mean I was leaving the group....just will spend less time with responding to - how shall I say it without flaming or offending anyone - viewpoints that are pigeon-holed and extremely limited and narrow-minded and most likely biased in NOT a very supportive way for the profession!!!!! I am still here. You can;t get rid of me that easily. lol Richard > Subj: Re: Support for Richard > 9/4/2003 7:04:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time > <A HREF= " attiliodalberto " >attiliodalberto</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF= " Chinese Medicine " >Traditional_Chinese_M\ edicine </A> > <A HREF= " Chinese Medicine " >Traditional_Chinese_M\ edicine </A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > I totally support Richard's views and actions against the > establishment and have even asked him to sort out the Uk's > regulation problems. > > I feel that a large majority of members and in support of his > actions and therefore i can't understand why he would want to > abandon us and the group. > > Attilio > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Very good, I am glad. Vanessa >> I am still here. You can;t get rid of me that easily. lol Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Hi All, 2 questions Attilio: What do you mean by the UK's regulation problems? How do you expect someone from the USA to be able to affect what is going on in the UK government and their talks with various UK bodies? Godfrey Bartlett <attiliodalberto> wrote: > I totally support Richard's views and actions against the > establishment and have even asked him to sort out the Uk's > regulation problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Hi Godfrey. I posted two messages some time ago about regulation in the UK. Please refer to the archives and this message. To sumamries briefly, doctors and nurses will still be able to practice acupuncture in the NHS after only doing a weekend course. Hence what will be the need for 'real' acupuncturists in the shopping malls and high streets of the UK if you can get it for free at the point of delivery on the NHS? I feel the associations in the UK are letting down tcm practitinoers as they allow the weekend wonderers to practice acupuncture. I also know of one head of an association who actually teaches the weekend wonderers! Therefore, were being pretty much sold out and have a bleak future. I hope that Richard's and others expertise in fighting for the rights of acupuncturists and the need to provide a quality treatment plan to patients, will be passed-on to us in the UK. Also, their energy and association backing will also be greatly benefical. Attilio Chinese Medicine , " acu_qichina " <acu@q...> wrote: > Hi All, > > 2 questions Attilio: > > What do you mean by the UK's regulation problems? > > How do you expect someone from the USA to be able to affect what is > going on in the UK government and their talks with various UK bodies? > > Godfrey Bartlett > > > <attiliodalberto> wrote: > > I totally support Richard's views and actions against the > > establishment and have even asked him to sort out the Uk's > > regulation problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 hi, you need to prove to the popu;ation & the ehalth authorities that the full course adds more to the teatment values & that is the way to go. i am sure you will have your teachers & professors on side for this issue. so go on with that & good luck. anand --- <attiliodalberto wrote: > Hi Godfrey. > > I posted two messages some time ago about regulation > in the UK. > Please refer to the archives and this message. > > To sumamries briefly, doctors and nurses will still > be able to > practice acupuncture in the NHS after only doing a > weekend course. > Hence what will be the need for 'real' > acupuncturists in the > shopping malls and high streets of the UK if you can > get it for free > at the point of delivery on the NHS? > > I feel the associations in the UK are letting down > tcm practitinoers > as they allow the weekend wonderers to practice > acupuncture. I also > know of one head of an association who actually > teaches the weekend > wonderers! Therefore, were being pretty much sold > out and have a > bleak future. > > I hope that Richard's and others expertise in > fighting for the > rights of acupuncturists and the need to provide a > quality treatment > plan to patients, will be passed-on to us in the UK. > Also, their > energy and association backing will also be greatly > benefical. > > Attilio > > > Chinese Medicine , > " acu_qichina " > <acu@q...> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > 2 questions Attilio: > > > > What do you mean by the UK's regulation problems? > > > > How do you expect someone from the USA to be able > to affect what is > > going on in the UK government and their talks with > various UK > bodies? > > > > Godfrey Bartlett > > > > > > <attiliodalberto> wrote: > > > I totally support Richard's views and actions > against the > > > establishment and have even asked him to sort > out the Uk's > > > regulation problems. > > ===== Anand Bapat Pain Management Specialist Sports Injury Specialist Blacktown, Parramatta, Punchbowl, & Hammondville 0402 472 897 ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://mail.messenger..co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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