The word 'doctor' and personal attacks

[Guest guest]

Doc

 

I don't know whether we agree or disagree on many points.....but one thing I

can tell you for sure......that words are nothing more than gutteral

sounds..... attempting at best to be pointers.......they are multiple order

abstractions from a reality. Abstractions which have no meaning at all

.........other than

'pointing' by sound. And too many people get too uptight over rediculous

ideas that it must mean this or that otherwise you can;t use it.

 

MDs do not have any property rights to the title or word 'doc', 'Dr',

'doctor'...etc.

 

This is exactly what we went through here in Florida and it cost over $80,000

to defend the right to continue to be called 'Acupuncture Physicians'. The

average caring MD whom we all can work with wasn't the problem.

 

Richard

 

 

 

> David,

> As many others before me i am put off by your tone.

> BUT that may well be the email process and not intended. This is not how i

> have perceived you in person.

>

> I am particularly annoyed by what i see as a personal attack on my choice of

> using my nickname from my childhood until my mid 30s as the name i am

> called.

> Doc is what i have been called by friends since i was 13 and if you have a

> problem with this do not even think of making it my problem.

>

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

David,

As many others before me i am put off by your tone.

BUT that may well be the email process and not intended. This is not how i have

perceived you in person.

 

I am particularly annoyed by what i see as a personal attack on my choice of

using my nickname from my childhood until my mid 30s as the name i am called.

Doc is what i have been called by friends since i was 13 and if you have a

problem with this do not even think of making it my problem.

 

 

acuman1 wrote:

 

>Everyone who has written legislation and pushed it knows that if one wants

something in particular and puts it in with other legislation or Rules and

Regulations (easier yet), and renders all other views intolerable with eloquent

righteousness, then they usually get it pushed thru with the other legislation.

<

 

As I have explained this is not legislation but is a response to legislation in

the form of a REGULATION.

You all but accuse me of a very unethical type of behaviour based only on your

own thoughts. Perhaps you would resort to this type of conduct ( i do not think

so) but i do not!

This was something i sat and worked on after the representatives of our

proffesion signed off on the basic idea.

 

>For instance, one of my ideas of security is to call myself whatever I want.<

 

If you call yourself by a title you have not earned you are committing fraud!

If you say you are PatrolOfficer David because you want to call yourself by that

title I will send you postcards C/Of your local jail.

 

>The idea is to provide for flexibiity and the advance of a growing and

expanding profession. If CO chooses to have numerous titles and confusion for

the

next 50-70 years until everyone with them dies off, this is ok too. <

 

Talk about non imformation and verbal manipulation! If you ever want to talk

about this sans the flames and manipulation i would be glad to discuss the

issue. If this is your idea of a conversation or debate ....forget it.

 

Doc Rosen

 

 

 

True security must be rooted in true and complete social, economic and

environmental justice for everyone everywhere with no exceptions. Anything else

is an illusion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Richard,

 

acudoc11 wrote:

 

>MDs do not have any property rights to the title or word 'doc', 'Dr',

'doctor'...etc.<

 

Have i (or anyone else on this list) ever said they do? Many Acupuncturists

have earned the academic title Dr.

Colorado recognizes

OMD, DOM, DAOM, DTCM,D Ac, and other such as legitimate degrees entitling one to

be called Dr. but if you have a M Ac and call yourself Dr. you are using a false

title.

 

Doc

 

 

 

 

True security must be rooted in true and complete social, economic and

environmental justice for everyone everywhere with no exceptions. Anything else

is an illusion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is flaming. Please reframe from attacks made to people’s names or

nicknames. My nickname is ‘Till’, doesn’t mean I like I carry cash though!

 

 

 

Let’s keep it to TCM and be more constructive rather than let our emorions bet

the better of us. Take a Liver tonic or drink a cup of camomile tea before

answering to messages that get you worked up.

 

 

 

TCM practitioners need to stand together and battle our cause rather than

bicker. Let’s sort our house out first with constructive dialogue and then take

on the world and make it a better palce!

 

 

 

Attilio

 

(moderator)

 

 

 

Doc <drdrdoc wrote:

 

David,

 

I am particularly annoyed by what i see as a personal attack on my choice of

using my nickname from my childhood until my mid 30s as the name i am called.

Doc is what i have been called by friends since i was 13 and if you have a

problem with this do not even think of making it my problem.

 

 

acuman1 wrote:

 

If you call yourself by a title you have not earned you are committing fraud!

If you say you are PatrolOfficer David because you want to call yourself by that

title I will send you postcards C/Of your local jail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

phew

he he

thanks Attilio. I agree completely!

It's ok to get worked up, but one needs to keep the 2nd connection,

so we have a creative dialogue and not just reactive monologues.

There's always a creative connection to what get's us worked up.

and it comes from the whole.

:-)

 

 

Från: " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto

Svara till: Chinese Medicine

Datum: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:01:17 +0100 (BST)

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Ämne: Re: The word 'doctor' and personal attacks

 

 

 

 

This is flaming. Please reframe from attacks made to people’s names or

nicknames. My nickname is ‘Till’, doesn’t mean I like I carry cash though!

 

 

 

Let’s keep it to TCM and be more constructive rather than let our emorions

bet the better of us. Take a Liver tonic or drink a cup of camomile tea

before answering to messages that get you worked up.

 

 

 

TCM practitioners need to stand together and battle our cause rather than

bicker. Let’s sort our house out first with constructive dialogue and then

take on the world and make it a better palce!

 

 

 

Attilio

 

(moderator)

 

 

 

Doc <drdrdoc wrote:

 

David,

 

I am particularly annoyed by what i see as a personal attack on my choice of

using my nickname from my childhood until my mid 30s as the name i am

called.

Doc is what i have been called by friends since i was 13 and if you have a

problem with this do not even think of making it my problem.

 

 

acuman1 wrote:

 

If you call yourself by a title you have not earned you are committing

fraud!

If you say you are PatrolOfficer David because you want to call yourself by

that title I will send you postcards C/Of your local jail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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