Reply to Richard's view of dry needling

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Richard:

To add to this discussion.......what or better yet HOW could there

ever be this ridiculous differentiation called 'dry needling'. So

what do acupuncturists perform...? wet needling? Dry needling is in

fact what acupuncturists DO.

 

After reading Alon and Lynn's messages, i'm still a little unsure of

this style but it seems to be a adapted form of acupuncture. I don't

understand why you need to place the acup needle in a plunger. Any

competent acupuncturist can do pretty much anything to a needle,

i.e. very deep or shallow insertion, bend it at tight angles,

manipulate it or feel it. Actually feeling the needle is the most

important part. If you take that away then you are unable to feel

the point through the needle (the tiger's tail or the de Qi), or

project your Qi through the needle into the point. This is where Tai

Chi, Qi Gong and Reiki practitioners can utilise their energy to

great effect. Dry needling seems quite a cold, emotionless and

removed form of therapy and should therefore fit in with the other

forms of WM therapy.

 

Attilio

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I don't

understand why you need to place the acup needle in a plunger. Any

competent acupuncturist can do pretty much anything to a needle,

i.e. very deep or shallow insertion, bend it at tight angles,

manipulate it or feel it. Actually feeling the needle is the most

important part.

 

>>>The plunger was developed by the Japanese acupu MD nakatani (not sure of

spelling). it is used for convenience not for control. Since the technique uses

many multiple insertion using one needle it is a quick way to have a needle

guide. At the same time the plunger actually takes away from some of the

sensation (feedback) you get from the needle and I do not like it around

dangerous areas, especially when doing deep techniques.

Dry needling can be as cold or removed as any other " OM " technique can, more

dependent of the practitioner than the technique. It can also be quite

sophisticated and muilty level dealing with both local tissues and causative

factors.The discussion here kind of sound like the " weekend " warriors suddenly

becoming experts on what the short comings of OM is. In other words the lowest

common denominator

Alon

 

 

 

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Imagine you stating this definiton of acupuncture as

in the use of a dry needle to Van Nghi.

The problem here is that acupuncture for many is the

use of a stainless steel needle and a cookbook

application that can be pretty much based on a

trigger/ashi function.

We need to understand that there is a deeper level of

application and art/knowledge and dimension beyound

this type of dry needle mentality about acupuncture.

Another reason for the MD's to say I can do

acupuncture and don't need a license, I 've been using

needles for a long time(hypodermic as in injection)

this statement was said by a doctor and written in a

letter for the board of acupuncture .

Someone with a poor definiton of the use of a neddle

could not diferentiate between someone doing

acupuncture of someone doing dry neddling with an

acupuncture neddle.

Vanessa

 

 

--- <attiliodalberto

wrote:

> Richard:

> To add to this discussion.......what or better yet

> HOW could there

> ever be this ridiculous differentiation called 'dry

> needling'. So

> what do acupuncturists perform...? wet needling? Dry

> needling is in

> fact what acupuncturists DO.

>

 

 

 

 

 

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trigger/ashi function

>>>Please do not confuse ashi with triggers. Triggers (as in myofacsial TP) are

a combination of Ashi and kori and particularly defined set of referred pain

patterns. It has nothing to do with o its tender to pressure here

Alon