Paranoid Acupuncturists & Next Question

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Terry Oleson: Dear All, As a licensed psychologist, as well as someone

deeply interested in clinical acupuncture, it seems that there has been an

overly obsessive and paranoid reaction on the part of many acupuncturist

toward the medical profession.

 

Lynn: Dr Oleson, thank you so much for your response. In the last couple

years, along with my practice, I have held a job at a nearby hospital as a

telemetry technician. Only once, as a patient of a specialist, did I detect

a funny look on his face when I told him what else I do for a living. Every

other response has been curiosity. I did almost fall out of my chair when

one doctor asked, wow, did you have to go to school to do that? Yes, and my

next batch of business cards once again included my degree designation. I

know that absolutely no malice or condescension was meant, and I know this

man is a very caring physician. He simply did not know the requirements to

enter this profession.

 

Recently, I was seeing another MD and he asked where I learned to read

telemetry. After I told him the training was in-house, I said, well, I had

to learn basics about cardiac rhythms while I was in school. He said 'why'

with such a shocked expression that my first reaction was to feel defensive.

I told myself that I did not already know what he meant by the tone of his

question. I took a deep breath and replied, 'In part, so that we are

qualified to make competent referrals when they're needed.' He said 'oh,'

still rather surprised. He apparently understood, but it also seemed

apparent that this explanation would have never spontaneously occurred to

him. I wondered how I had come across, particularly since I had felt so

threatened for a moment. On my way out the door, he asked if he could have

my business card, for referrals. It was quite a lesson in not jumping to

premature conclusions about MD's. Obviously, I had made a positive

impression. We cannot assume as little as, doctors will have a clue what our

training includes. They don't know unless we tell them. It is unreasonable

to expect them to just know we are competent without having information.

 

My first experiences with acupuncture needles did not involve an

acupuncturist, but anesthesiologists. I understand that you, Dr Oleson, have

worked with quite a few of those. First I was receiving trigger point

injections, maybe procaine, then the staff discovered Dr Gunn's dry

needling. It was great stuff, in my opinion. I would be the last person to

tell Seirin to stop selling needles to MD's. Doctors in pain services may be

a slightly different breed, anyway, but I want to reiterate that we are all

here to help patients. I have room for little else but respect for those

doctors.

 

My next question is, how can we best approach the conventional medical

establishment? I am about to launch a marketing campaign targeted in that

direction. I want to utilize the personal exposure I have had with these

doctors, both MD's and DO's, in the course of my hospital employment. I need

to provide a segue for contact of a more professional nature. I also need to

provide them with information they need to be able to make referrals, and I

need to lead them to see value in making referrals to me specifically. I bet

there is more than one person on this list with experience in conventional

and alternative realms who can say, if I was a doctor there, I would want to

know this about Chinese medicine, and I would want to know this about you.

 

Dr Oleson has already pointed out that they need to know for what conditions

they would make these referrals. I have a couple Alliance brochures for

acupuncture and for herbal medicine that I like, and will probably redesign

my old brochure to use for mailings. I know a psychologist locally who had

to stop mailing flyers out after a while because they were so effective in

gleaning business. Yes, I want to have that problem! Who has the next idea?

 

Thanks so much for your participation!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Obviously, I had made a positive

impression. We cannot assume as little as, doctors will have a clue what our

training includes. They don't know unless we tell them. It is unreasonable

to expect them to just know we are competent without having information.

 

>>>>>MDs are used to work in teams and to refer. Its part of the paradigm of

training. The best way to build a practice for new LAcs is to find referring

MDs. They would do so if they feel comfortable with your knowledge and most

important safety. Every MD is open to malpractice when they refer, and they need

to feel that the person they work with will never open them to one. That is the

reason to learn to speak their langrage to them

Alon

 

 

[Guest guest]

Whoa there pardners what's goin on!! People

accusing the arrogant here, other accusing the

paranoid obsessives there...!

Cool it chums, Let's take it easy =] !

Whichever side we're on, we're in the same boat (all

6 billion of us), so can we groove a little instead of

fight?

Ok human units! I hope we can have more peace 'n

information and less adjectives!

Yo, I'm outta here!

 

Hugo

 

--- " J. Lynn Detamore "

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>

> Terry Oleson: Dear All, As a licensed psychologist,

> as well as someone

> deeply interested in clinical acupuncture, it seems

> that there has been an

> overly obsessive and paranoid reaction on the part

> of many acupuncturist

> toward the medical profession.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

How about the same for the western medical community for years )

 

They for some reason don't let alternative medicine come to close to the Care

system.

 

Vanessa

 

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--- " J. Lynn Detamore "

<healthworks wrote: >

>

> Terry Oleson: Dear All, As a licensed psychologist,

> as well as someone

> deeply interested in clinical acupuncture, it seems

> that there has been an

> overly obsessive and paranoid reaction on the part

> of many acupuncturist

> toward the medical profession.

 

 

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