Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Richard, You have mention this compound therapy a few times and I have since got one book from china on scraping therapy but it really is a book of recapies scrape here for this (this point for this symptom) and I feel it has thus far not deepen my understanding of Chinese medicine and thus not enhance my clinical practice. Well there are two books one on cupping and one on gua sha in the western world that I am aware of. Do you recomend them? Can you elaborate of the " compound " therapy ba gua fa? Have you written about it? can you relay some case histories? What can one expect to treat with it: insomnia stomach complaints emotional problems? hepatitis CVA dampness fire toxic fire wind channel problem manifested through five phases, six channels and so forth... I am really interested because it would be by the sound of it something very useful in places where needles are scares and or moxa are unavailable and or plants medicine are not in season and so forth... If you do not mind can you guide one to more sources yours and others about the two treatment modalities and the compound modality... not just as a supposed technique (which presumably it is and isn't) Marco - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine Friday, August 22, 2003 4:13 PM Re: Digest Number 138 Well spoken Matt My yang political nature is balanced by yin treatments. For me.....acupuncture needles and electro acupuncture are yang treatments...yet I use BaGuaFa (modern synergized methods developed by me utilizing both GuaSha (frictional scraping system) and BaGuan (empty cups) together) are the most yin treatments one could administer. Also - there are already way too many who have the yin attitude in the political arena with practical no one with the yang attitude. Many already consider it a huge positive that someone with a yang position exists to fill the huge gap. And that is not to say that the yin attitudes are wrong. We should realize and remember who the controlling interest within the allopathic community consists of.......and those are not the everday MDs who are our friends. Those have very little to say. The FEW who control the MD association(s) are the problem. Richard > Subj: Re: Digest Number 138 > 8/22/03 2:33:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time > <A HREF= " acu.guy " >acu.guy</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF= " Chinese Medicine " >Traditional_Chinese_M\ edicine </A> > <A HREF= " Chinese Medicine " >Traditional_Chinese_M\ edicine </A> > Sent from the Internet > > IMO, the fighting spirit Richard advocates strikes me as a yang quality > while the cooperative bridge Terry advocates is more a yin quality. In Chapter 28 > of the Tao Teh Ching, Lao Tzu said " Know that you possess the strong > masculine (yang) principle, yet abide by the meek feminine (yin) principal. " Then, > in Chapter 43 - " The softest of all things can overcome the hardest of all > things. " We should, I think, look for a balance of both approaches, perhaps > favoring the yin as the underlying principal. > > Matt Bauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Marco I am sponsoring and teaching a large group of colleagues this weekend for their Continuing Education Courses for license renewal, so I am a little preoccupied. What I would say is that those books are very basic but OK for some bacjground building. They do not approach any real understanding of not only the synergy but certain advanced benefits. I have not yet written about 'BaGuaFa' (which term was coined for me by Dr. Wu, Boping MD,PhD from China) but intend to do so. I have only of the last few months began taking digital photographs for documentation even though I actually have treated over 10,000 patient visits using this combined technique. Let me give you some pointers. Where I started many years ago was to think about EXACTLY where just one specific acupuncture point is located. My choice was ChiZe Lung 5. When I get the chance and when the internet seems to be clear of some of the viruses I will upload an image and a description. I did not rediscover anything.....just better described the point location than any book or reference source out there. The old masters knew exactly where that point existed and did not need the detail description as we seem to need....at least from a learning standpoint. Think what 'dampness in the channels' really means. Think what 'channel' means. Think what is inside the channel or better yet.....what are ALL the constituents of a channel and please let's get beyond the limited thought patterns of some who believe that it is ONLY neuroanatomy or Qi. Richard > Dear Richard, > > You have mention this compound therapy a few times and I have since got one > book from china on scraping therapy but it really is a book of recapies > scrape here for this (this point for this symptom) and I feel it has thus far not > deepen my understanding of Chinese medicine and thus not enhance my clinical > practice. > > Well there are two books one on cupping and one on gua sha in the western > world that I am aware of. > > Do you recomend them? > > Can you elaborate of the " compound " therapy ba gua fa? > > Have you written about it? > > can you relay some case histories? > > What can one expect to treat with it: > > insomnia > stomach complaints > emotional problems? > > hepatitis > CVA > > dampness > fire toxic > fire > wind > > channel problem manifested through five phases, six channels > > and so forth... > > I am really interested because it would be by the sound of it something very > useful in places where needles are scares and or moxa are unavailable and or > plants medicine are not in season and so forth... > > If you do not mind can you guide one to more sources yours and others about > the two treatment modalities and the compound modality... > > not just as a supposed technique (which presumably it is and isn't) > > Marco > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Richard, looking forward to your book and or essays? when you have time can you really some case histories? It seams like a modality-treatment concepts and principals to develop since it could be relatively cost effective. Imagine in Uspatan where my other half is from if scraping and sucking could treat minor and major upset it would be revolutionary for the health promoters and the specialist to come... Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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