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Well said Chris, kind. I guess my Torrette's Syndrome was flaring up again. Two Points.

1) The supplements we have today are amazing and life saving, but will be available (those that will!) only by prescription from approved MDs in a few short years. (I railed on mercilessly about this before) What I felt and didn't say and (maybe) should have is that the understandings we have today (like the majority I read in this group) are being warred and lobbied upon by international buisness and it's arm of governmental special interest. Money is #1.

The modern understandings of the present and future health/lifeproblems of stress, polution -all the way to global warming and famine, are best treated prophylacticly by every one, including the combined voice of medical workers worldwide. Less than that I called ineffective to the point of negligence, which again was unfair of me, but if we do become aware of the interrelated magnitude and urgency of these modern trends, and ignore them because it will hurt us and/or our practise somehow, the suffering that will continue to mount is much greater and ultimately catastrophic compared to some small victory in the clinic. I am saying, preventing cancer or birth defects or auto-immune epidemics, is better than treating a few of its victims. The lack of concern about this in a frontline extremely highly educated group as this worries me a little.

2) I think altho maybe most of the teachable aspects of TCM are somewhat widely available, it'll take time to diseminate properly the nuances of individual's discoveries. Forums that focus toward a narrowing of concensus or definition of what TCM is and can do are way way premature. Technique. The benefit or healing or ultimate usefulness of what this art does isn't always measurale and reproduceable or else we'd have robot therapists set up like phone booths everywhere lots of credit cards float around. The spiritual(?) comfort is a unmeasurable too. (except if you're talking $).

For what TCM does it does well, and better, if variation exists.

Clumsy words, but oh well. peace, fran

 

musiclear wrote:

 

In a message dated 8/12/2003 12:33:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alonmarcus writes:

Let 100 flowers bloom, let 100 schools contend. I wish I had a dollar for every jackass that thought they knew better than the old masters>>>and i would have made a lot of money for every patient i seen "old masters" fail to successfully treat both in us and chinaAlon Come on,,,, what's this about. We live in a different world and in a different environment with different stresses, pollutants, food, desires, time constraints, expectations and on on on. We also have a wealth of different biochemical understandings and supplements. Why would anyone desire to limit themselves to only using what was known and available one hundred or one thousand years

ago? The best possibility for healing would be to use all the understandings we have available with all the supplements we have available and educate the patient as to what would be the healthiest lifestyle given the lifestyle they choose to live. Let's not squabble over,,,,,,,,any silly thing. Chris For practitioners, students and those interested in TCM. Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, religious, spam messages or flame another member. If you want to change the way you receive email message, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, then visit the groups’ homepage: Chinese Medicine/ Click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly.

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